obiwanobiwan first formally apologizes for tragically mixing up Arthur C. Clarke and Douglas Adams, and fully expects to feel HAL's wrath soon.
(Actually, Clarke DOES have a better agument, 2001 is, I think, great art but a poor film, haven't read the book...but the film was huguely influential and there are some powerful images and ideas in 2001, even if it doesn't work as a film, in both my and the Internet reviewer Confused Matthew's opinion...shall we add him?)
Second...oh, GOD...
What is it with me and getting into fights over the importance of female singing divas I don't even LIKE? First the Lady known as Gaga (though for me I'd take off the second "a," unless she's just shutting her mouth and playing the piano, which she actually DOES do quite well, so a shame she threw away here real talent for cheap fame and cash, but that's just my opinion and will not get into another Gaga fight nio matter how many folks respond to this telling me how great she is--I despise her style and singing, you like it, let's just not get into it and now...
*Madonna.*
First, to answer whoever it was (hard time keeping track) that said Bono was lesser, but did acknowledge the humanitarian aspect--THAT is what I mean and why I'd personally rank him higher. I think both are talented artists in their won fields, but while Madonna may be the more innovative in her field, Bono's impact via that humanitarianism seems more meaningful, and I think that Madonna's style WILL be forgotten, not because, oddly enough, it will die off, but just because the pop genre seems to be evolving so rapidly I think in a few decades times Madonna will seem antiqueted and fade, while someone like Bono will be at remembered more for off the stage than on it, just like at some point Jackie Robinson, if (a sad day for me) we ever forgt baseball, will still be remembered for what he did for African-Americans as a whole and over time. Likewise, Mozart will endure forever for one of the reasons Shakespeare will as well--both of their styles are long gone, but have held up over so many culture changes they seem to possess whatever quality it is that makes works timeless, and so while we no longer have so many classical music and opera composers and no more plays done in Elizabethan dress and English, Shakespeare and Mozart will stay.
Incidentally, I won't give a "Mozart's-the-greatest-ever-let-me-count-the-ways" diatribe, as really I think 1. It's pretty self-evident to most he WAS great, at least in his field, if you like it, 2. I know some but not nearly enough of Mozart to give that speech, whereas since I'm an (unofficial, I'lld eclare it officially once I go to a real university) English and Philosophy major and have devoted years of my life to Shakespeare and Nietzsche, in THEIR case I feel more qualified to speak up on their behalf, and 3. Mozart's actually not my favorite composer/musician, anyway, that'd be Tchaikovsky, I LOVE TCHAIKOVSKY, and the one time I actually won a game here I had The Waltz and Polonaise from his "Eugene Onegin" going...which was all the more appropriate as I was Russia! ;) (Also, if you have never played Diplomacy without the 1812 Overture going...try it once, the WHOLE THING, it's about 13-14 minutes, though the last two are the famous part, it's just awesome music and great to play to when the field guns start blasting away!) :) Pytor Tchaikovsky, Giacomo Puccini, Mozart, and The Beatles/John Lennon are my favorite musicians; Beethoven following (I LOVE his orchestral and piano work, but his operas seem a bit stale...still should probably be on this list, though, maybe...) with Gilbert and Sullivan as well. So I like Mozart a lot, but he's not my favorite the way Shakespeare's my favorite author and nietzsche's my favorite philosopher, so I again don't feel qualified to let slip the dogs of war on his behalf.
obiwanobiwan will also stop talking about philosophy on this thread, unless it pertains to someone selected to our Top 100 (So just, you know, if someone knocks Plato or Nietzsche...not that I have any interest in those two...) ;) But yeah, let's do this 100, maybe save the meaning of life for elsewhere, a topic like that...eh, maybe it'll get it's own thread someday. :p
The List updated for selections made...trying to keep it as chronological as I can...Madonna and C. Clarke and...ummm..."the guy who invented the toilet" I'll place at the bottom, "runoff" area, and you guys can decide as a democratic system (wait, didn't I just say how I've lost my faith in...never mind) if toilets are up there. XD
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