Orathaic, those are very good questions. At that time, however, I think it was good advice, just as today Paul would probably advise you not to contradict your boss in public at work--because it's the accepted way of the culture, and there are repercussions if we violate that way. However, I can also see the point that Paul might be making re the headship of the male

FUCK RELIGIOUS BAMPOTS

So you contradicted your boss in public at work, Mujus?
Repercussions. Six Hail Maries. OMG!

Laugh at religion:

John 11:1-44
http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_life_of_jesus/lazarus_reanimated/jn11_01-03.html

John 11:55-56
http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_gospels/the_last_supper/jn11_55-56.html

Enjoy!

The mental gymnastics required to "make sense" of this stuff is just ridiculous.

AHHHH that was terrible grammar. My apologies. That was Bob Dobbs' way of punishing me, I suppose.

'The Brick Testament'??? Surely someone is joking. I'm not going anywhere near that site, thank you very much.

Oh, sorry, JECE. Just realised you are actually taking the piss out of this shitfaced idolatry.
Will check it out.

Awkward, you have to want to understand, and then learn to live with the fact that it's progressive revelation--meaning that you'll keep learning more about God, and about yourself, throughout your life.

Like with Star Wars I'd like to see a prequel to the Bible, maybe find out what God was like as a kid before he grew up and joined the dark side. It would be cheap to make with only one actor required ......... hang on, what about the dinosaurs.
Hang on, if God was the only guy about how do people know what happened anyway.? Did he tell someone the story so they could write a book about it, something smells a bit fishy down in the garden of Eden, are you sure this is not just all made up ???

You have to WANT to understand it, and you have to accept the fact that you will be confused by it? But you believe in it anyway?

I'm sorry, Mujus, but the concept of forcing yourself to believe in something even though you admit you will have to keep re-explaining it to yourself... that's crazy. And why do it? Out of what, fear of God's vengeance I suppose? Or more like a pragmatic fear of ostracism from your family and social circles? Probably a bit of both...

I want answers here, who did God tell about the Garden of Eden and if God was a Jew, why did he let the Holocaust happen?
If God was of no particular religion why should we be religious?
Was Jesus a Christian?
If Jesus was a Jew then why are non-Jews supporting him?
Why in pictures does Jesus always look white?
If Jesus wasn't white, what colour was God?
Before I can move on with my religious education I need some fundamental answers here.

I'm not sure I follow your reasoning there awkward. Why does something being confusing at times necessarily mean the it's crazy to look further into it?

It's certainly your choice to look into it or not, but your choice not to doesn't have any bearing on its truth or usefulness.

Why assume that Mujus must be afraid of God's vengence or being ostracized by family members? I don't know the guy but that seems a bit like a talking point. Do you really mean that any Christian, no matter how courageous they are in their actions, is cowardly? If not what was your point there. I could mention many reasons that I accept Christianity, none of which have anything to do with your suppositions. Were you speaking of Mujus only? I'm not sure if you guy's actually know each other or not.

Another question, who's the guy with the elephant head and 8 arms?

I have a genuine question. Can anybody answer this:

How was Jericho founded three to four thousand years before God began creating the heavens and the earth?

This is easily remedied if you accept a non-literal Genesis creation account, but then when in Genesis are we suddenly factual? And why in the gospels does it trace Jesus lineage back through mythical characters, if Genesis is in fact non-literal in its account?

Before we get to Job Chapter 16 I need some answers here........

"I'm not sure I follow your reasoning there awkward. Why does something being confusing at times necessarily mean the it's crazy to look further into it?

It's certainly your choice to look into it or not, but your choice not to doesn't have any bearing on its truth or usefulness."

Something being confusing does not mean it's crazy to look further into it. No statement of the sort was made.

Any system that attempts to explain the world should, as a measure of its effectiveness and validity, make things LESS confusing when it is genuinely looked into. Increased scrutiny of Christianity -- and other religions, mind you -- yields only more confusion. Mujus himself said so much: " learn to live with the fact that it's progressive revelation"... In other words, you keep "learning" new things to explain your current beliefs. The problem: Your belief system is basically an elaborate tapestry, each exquisitely woven thread made at least partly out of lies. Not necessarily INTENTIONAL lies, mind you, but the entire story behind The Big Three western religions was cobbled together piecemeal over time, parts were edited out, certain things are considered "canon" and others were omitted. All of this was done by humans. Fallible, silly humans.

You can either believe in the superstitions of ancient nomads who knew next to nothing about the world, or you can believe in what is actually true and verifiable.

I don't intend on getting in a huge argument here. More just trying to "plant a seed", to borrow a phrase.

A genuine counter question:

Can a poem have meaning and a worthwile theme?

If debate were mortal kombat, awkward scored a fatality.

"Can a poem have meaning and a worthwile theme?"

Now this ridiculous book is a giant poem?

"The Bible does teach that the man is the head of the household, but that the husband and wife should "submit yourselves one to another," and compares the love that the husband should give the wife to Jesus' love, a sacrificing love, willing to die to save the bride."

It's ok that women are treated like baby factories to be seen & not heard..because...because..they're weak, vulnerable damsels in distress too! See, the Bible 'cares' about women.

If God was black why are white christians so racist?

and why did he murder the Ethiopians?

Furthermore, why the hell are Ethiopians not all atheists!

Yes, I can see that you are trying to plant a seed. There really is nothing wrong with that.

I'm not sure that I buy your statement about religion being primarily a system for explainin the world. That is inherently an aetheistic way of looking at it. If Christianity is not merely a way of explaining away our questions about how we got here, then the rest of the argument you're not intending to make becomes problematic.

For instance your quote of Mujus says "learn to live with the fact that it's progressive revelations" As I said I don't know Mujus and he'll have ot clear up exactly what he said, but I'd interpret that as the idea that greater study will yield greater clarity. Your claim that I have to "learn" something new to explain my current beliefs, isn't something that I would accept from my own experience. What you say about my religion simply doesn't add up with the experiences I've had. Upon what actual evidence do you base your assessment?

If the seed that you are planting is so obviously true. Why must you characterize Christians as cowardly (or at least fearful), primitive, and superstitious? A strong argument wouldn't need such tricks would it? I don't think that I'm any of those things, and the more you say them the less I see your stance as being one that's well thought out.

**gives Putin internet noogies**

I want internet noogies!

If the World is only 6000 years old where does all of the oil and the dinosaur bones come from?
Did God want us to burn fossil fuels to cause global warming and destroy the planet he created?
Why are religious people so pious and sanctimonious, I thought it was the meek who are inheriting the Earth?
If Jesus were alive today he would be with the Wall St protesters fighting the greedy excesses of capitalism. let's be honest, Jesus would be a communist, it makes sense.
He would hate to see the greedy ecxesses of capitalist economies with loads of fat people stuffing themselves with Macdonalds whilst people in the 3rd World die due to lack of clean water. There are a lot of Christians praying JC doesn't come back or he'll be sending them straight to hell in a handcart.
All IMHO as always, please read the Bible daily, you know it makes CENTS !!

**Gives fiedler internet noogies**