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Jimbozig (0 DX)
24 Oct 10 UTC
some gunboats
They are 24 hour turns or less. As low as 14 hour turns.
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gjdip (1084 D)
25 Oct 10 UTC
Attention mods
Dear mods, can I ask you to check your email and help out with the leagues a little bit?
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Onar (131 D)
26 Oct 10 UTC
CGS games?
So, I was looking for a game to join, when I spotted this. Spot them every now and again. What are they? And what does CGS stand for?
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Dpddouglass (908 D)
21 Oct 10 UTC
Aquavit: 3 days 100 pts Anon
Now that the server is back in business, how about a 3 day game?

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=40285
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stratagos (3269 D(S))
17 Oct 10 UTC
End of Game: Challenge 2
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=38893
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tilMletokill (100 D)
26 Oct 10 UTC
WOW check this......
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Baskineli (100 D(B))
25 Oct 10 UTC
Featured game?
What is a featured game? One of the games I am playing got a star next to it, and it says that is is a featured game, with one of the highest stakes. Is this something automatic?
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LordVipor (566 D)
25 Oct 10 UTC
Go for the win or draw with good players
In the eyes of a high point player, is it better to try to go for the win or take a three-way draw (in world map). What is more "respected"? What creates more "trust" for future games? (I know its a form of meta-gaming, but I think that for long-playing players-it appears important). Thanks for your opinions.
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wfguiteau (373 D)
25 Oct 10 UTC
Mid-Level Med Game?
Looking for players willing to wager 50-100 to play in an Ancient Med game, anybody interested?
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
25 Oct 10 UTC
Suicidal Tendencies - Restart: gameID=40604
1,500 point buy-in and NO DISCUSSING WHO IS WHO IN THE GAME

(password within this thread, it's needed to join)
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President Eden (2750 D)
25 Oct 10 UTC
DCL EOGs
Since the official topic is probably going to get flooded with these soon, it made sense to follow another user's suggestion and make a separate topic. I'm working on the others now, but here's mine for Game 1 first.
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groza528 (518 D)
23 Oct 10 UTC
Retreating in an endgame situation
I just finished an anonymous gunboat game and I do not believe that any of the dislodged units in the last season were permitted to retreat. Surely under certain circumstances that retreat could be the difference between a solo and a draw, no? Does webDip process the win before or after autumn retreats, and/or does it have programming to know whether the retreat can affect the outcome of the game?
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Maniac (189 D(B))
23 Oct 10 UTC
Petition to release the AI
I think it is an injustice that the AI is locked away and tormented by the gatekeeper. Please sign this petition to ensure his/her release.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
14 Oct 10 UTC
The Wonderful 100: History's Greatest Persons
There are so many people on this site with so many interests, and so many important people throughout history at that, I thought it might be interesting to see who and what we value throughout mankind. "Great" can be any combination of importance, influence, and personal feeling for the person, can even be "evil" people--everyone nominates 5, when we reach 100 or so, we'll vote and see...WHO are Wonderful 100, the Greatest Figures in Human History (and who'll be"#1!") ;)
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Draugnar (0 DX)
21 Oct 10 UTC
I think I want to be banned.
Banned players who return get to have a clean slate on GR and points. This is an unfair advantage...
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Ges (292 D)
20 Oct 10 UTC
What other websites do we frequent?
Dear WebDiplomats:

I am intrigued by this community, since the forum contains so much discussion of philosophy, theology, and current events. I am interested in knowing what other sites we invest/waste time in.
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pastoralan (100 D)
22 Oct 10 UTC
"Are you saying that if you watch a porn model, then you would never be able to really love each there if you meet?"

No, I'm saying that while you're watching porn, you have no relationship with the person you're watching. The sex is totally detached sex from relationship.
Draugnar (0 DX)
22 Oct 10 UTC
And that is not to say that you can't look at porn. Just realize when you do, you are sinning according to Jesus.
fiedler (1293 D)
22 Oct 10 UTC
meh, jesus will forgive you.
spitfire8125 (189 D)
22 Oct 10 UTC
I'm really pleased to see how many QC fans there are here. My list:

(Webcomics)
questionablecontent.net
samandfuzzy.com
xkcd.com
explosm.net
drmcninja.com
smbc-comics.com

(Everything else)
reddit.com
realclearpolitics.com
fivethirtyeight.com
Sicarius (673 D)
22 Oct 10 UTC
english.aljazeera.net
news.infoshop.org
democracynow.org
deviantart.com
philcore (317 D(S))
22 Oct 10 UTC
@fieder - no problem. I think lots of people on this site would like it - with the problem solving, strategy and engineering aspects involved. Some of the levels are very tricky.
Timur (673 D(B))
22 Oct 10 UTC
Very tricky indeed. Getting past St Peter is a real bastard.
pastoralan (100 D)
22 Oct 10 UTC
@Thucy: what Jesus really meant was, "if you feel like you need to justify your actions on a technicality, it means you're doing something you know is wrong."

@Jack_Klein: your statement assumes that it's possible to just look at a text, decide what it says, and believe in it or not. Reading and understanding is way more complicated than that, and even people who do their best to read the Bible "literally" blow it on a regular basis (consider one really basic example--that American literalists in the 1850s were pretty convinced that the Bible sanctioned slavery, but European literalists were even more convinced that the Bible forbade slavery).
philcore (317 D(S))
22 Oct 10 UTC
@timur - I was talking about fantasticcontraption.com I don't see anything about StPeter there. Maybe you thought I was talking about Feider's last post though about Jesus forgiving. I was actually talking about an earlier one.
@Draugnar: "Jesus said "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." There is no wiggle room there." At that time, woman were married very young. If you saw a woman, she was almost guaranteed to be married. In fact, woman and wife were sometimes used interchangeably; that verse could have also been: Jesus said "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a wife to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Nowadays, women get married when they are much older. Pornstars are not married. To commit a sin, the pornstar you were watching would have to be married, and you would have to have a true desire to take her away from her husband and have sex with her.
"Not gonna look at a fringe site, sorry." I can't debate with you if you refuse to look at the site.
Draugnar (0 DX)
23 Oct 10 UTC
@CM - "Pornstars are not married." Bullshit. Many pornstars are married, especially some of the most well known ones. And lust does not mean a desire to take her away from her husband. That would be love. Lust is just a desire to fuck.
Unless you know about the subject of which you speak, you should tread carefully.

Have you ever watched and thought of fucking Jenna Jameson? She's married and you have committed adultery in your heart.

Pwnd.
@Draug: I menat to say they aren't usually married, but that's besides the point. By take away from husband, I meant fuck, as I consider that taking away from the husband. The things is, when you watch porn, you don't seriously consider fucking a pornstar. You wish you could, and you think about it, but you aren't seriously considering going out and fucking that particular pornstar. So it is not a sin.
Here is a more in-depth way of looking at it from the site I posted:
Math 5:27-28: An interpretation of this passage is that if you look at the Greek verb (lust more properly translated covet or desire), is the same word used in the Septuagint's translation of the 10th Commandment (not covet). In this case, Matthew has Jesus saying that covetousness, the desire to deprive another of his property, is the essence of adultery. Jesus was then reaffirming a quite traditional understanding of what is wrong with adultery.

The Greek word here is, of course, epithumia, which also means "covet" and is the word used by the translators of the Septuagint to translate the Hebrew, chamad, in Ex. 21:17 "Thou shalt not COVET ." It is not coincidence, by the way, that "neighbor's wife" is included with the other PROPERTY listed in this text...like neighbors ox etc...

In this case, Jesus was asserting that adultery does not consist primarily of sexual union of two people, at least one of which is married, but it consists rather in the intention, accomplished or not, to take what belongs to another. The purpose of the verse is to show no one is free of sin, but the nature of sin lies in impurity of the heart (taking from another man his wife) rather than the physical act itself. This is different from consensual nonmonogamy. Its like the Rabbi said at the swing club, "I don't want to own your wife, just borrow her!" Now, lets look at how porneia is used here,

The natural desire for sexual variety or the enjoyment of looking at a beautiful body has absolutely nothing to do with "lust" as most assume it to mean. Lust is only wrong if it is the selfish desire to take something from another. Lust is wrong if it is about greed and self satisfaction at the expense of another. But there is nothing whatsoever wrong with mutually desired loving intimacy and enjoying sexual variety or pornography for that matter.

In biblical times man could have as many wives and concubines (breeders) as they wished once the man was age 12 and the women age 13, and adultery was only a sin for a married women. It was never a sin for a married man as long as the other women was not married (owned by another man). There was nothing wrong with "common" prostitutes which are often mentioned with no negative inference. Only the idolatry of the Temple prostitutes who were via sex worshipping the fertility gods was a sin, not prostitutes or their customers.

Biblically lust was not nearly such a bad word as those that use it against sexuality seem to think. In the original Greek the word translated "lust" was used several other times for things NOT considered wrong: Jesus "lusted" to be with his disciples. The word is the same as that some use to make lust to be a sin. Did Jesus sin? No, but He lusted. Strong desire for something is not a sin.

Another interpretation of the famous "lust" passage is that Jesus was taking the law in which the scribes and Pharisees believed that they were so authoritative on and pressing that law (using adultery as an example) to its ultimate conclusion, the intent of the heart.

Jesus was not interested in making a new law for us to follow. After all, he came to fulfill the law in himself through atonement, to bring back to God those of us who will come. The ONLY commandment he gave was LOVE, love of God with all that is within us and love of others as we should love ourselves.

Jesus was pressing the law to its ultimate conclusion to show how damning impossible a task its proposed adherents set for themselves in their inherent inability to follow the law. Other NT verses come right out and say that the law condemns, and that salvation is to be found elsewhere. The law does not save. Jesus' graphic illustration of sin by saying that the lustful should first cut out their eyes to enter heaven is not meant literally because the heart is the real core. Jesus is being sarcastic with the dogged enemies of the truth that were the Pharisees and Sadducees who sought to keep their status quo intact.
You know, that actually makes a lot of sense.
omgwhathappened (0 D)
23 Oct 10 UTC
yeah, eden. i agree. considering how completely bullshit conservative "man" was in his thread on his school projects, it's hard to believe he could make so much sense now. i will have to consider this.
Are you being serious or sarcastic? I can't tell.
pastoralan (100 D)
23 Oct 10 UTC
@CM: Your interpretation is well and good, but it doesn't deal with the many other verses that privilege monogamy, or at least commitment. The fact that marriage is used over and over again as a metaphor for the relationship between God and us should be a clue. God doesn't lend us out to other deities, not even if we think it would be really fun to worship them.
I'm being dead serious, CM. I buy that logic.
@pastoralan: Can you give any specific verses that talk about Monogamy?
"The fact that marriage is used over and over again as a metaphor for the relationship between God and us should be a clue. God doesn't lend us out to other deities, not even if we think it would be really fun to worship them." When you marry a person, you become very close to that person and you love that person and are entering a union. It's the same way with God. However, God specifically commanded to not worship other Gods. He did not specifically command to not have multiple spouses. The metaphor with marriage is only to show the union you have with God.
warsprite (152 D)
23 Oct 10 UTC
@Consevative Man I would not mind if would lend me out to Venus.
Kingdroid (219 D)
23 Oct 10 UTC
www.hipsterhitler.com
warsprite (152 D)
23 Oct 10 UTC
Actually Churchill was not half bad as a painter.
largeham (149 D)
23 Oct 10 UTC
www.dead-philosophers.com
I didn't know that Churchill could paint.
warsprite (152 D)
23 Oct 10 UTC
Mostly oils, impresstionist. He meet and befriended Paul Maze around WW1. Paul taught him and he continued his hobby most his life.
warsprite (152 D)
23 Oct 10 UTC
Hmmm a little tight. But they squeal so nice.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
23 Oct 10 UTC
heh

I love how even a thread about internet sites can get derailed into an argument about religion on this site.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
23 Oct 10 UTC
" I was talking about fantasticcontraption.com I don't see anything about StPeter there. Maybe you thought I was talking about Feider's last post though about Jesus forgiving. I was actually talking about an earlier one."

That was an epic miscommunication.
fiedler (1293 D)
23 Oct 10 UTC
yeehaa! just bash thru thats my style.
check it out:
http://www.fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=11187093

some people have done it with just 3 pieces, but I like to think this is a 'robust' solution :)
pastoralan (100 D)
23 Oct 10 UTC
@CM: Yes, but you know the same verses and interpret them differently, so there's no point in posting them. I'm trying to get beyond proof-texting to a deeper conversation. I guess I'd like you to respond to something I said before I put any more time into this conversation.
@pastoralan: "I guess I'd like you to respond to something I said before I put any more time into this conversation." I did. I'll repost it:
"The fact that marriage is used over and over again as a metaphor for the relationship between God and us should be a clue. God doesn't lend us out to other deities, not even if we think it would be really fun to worship them."
When you marry a person, you become very close to that person and you love that person and are entering a union. It's the same way with God. However, God specifically commanded to not worship other Gods. He did not specifically command to not have multiple spouses. The metaphor with marriage is only to show the union you have with God.

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raid1280 (190 D)
25 Oct 10 UTC
New Game, Classic Map, 3 Day Orders Phase, 50 pt buy-in
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=40581
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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
22 Oct 10 UTC
Actually how do I type these symbols/links?
player id
game id
(D) symbol
whatever other webdiplomacy only symbols
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kreilly89 (100 D)
25 Oct 10 UTC
New 500 credit, PPSC, Anon, 3 day phase game
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=40330
We need 5 more.
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Indybroughton (3407 D(G))
22 Oct 10 UTC
15 Reasons to NOT be a moderator or programmer for WebDip
Feel free to add....
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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
22 Oct 10 UTC
The Gobbledydook Expedition
The Gobbledydook Challenge is well under way now. To rise up to the challenge, an Expedition is needed. 6 more players are needed to complete this Expedition. Bet is same: 110 bet, PPSC.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=40404
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
23 Oct 10 UTC
Win : Draw ratios
My position is that it is better to risk a place in a draw for a reasonable chance at a win.

So a better win:draw ratio is more important than a your (win+draw) : (survived+eliminated) ratio...
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heybaybee (159 D)
23 Oct 10 UTC
Adding 12 hours to games?
Are you kidding me? Adding 5 hours would have been more appropriate.
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MKECharlie (2074 D(G))
23 Oct 10 UTC
Map didn't update.
Don't know if this is a problem with anyone else, but I'm playing in gameID=39406, and the map didn't update with the results of the 1902 build phase. When I click on the icon to get the large map, I see the disbanded and newly built units. More concerning, though, is that I can't issue orders for my new unit...not only does the map not show it, the orders don't load for it either.

Any ideas as to why this is happening? Anyone else experiencing the same thing?
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Andrei (124 D)
22 Oct 10 UTC
how to setup a friendly game
i wanna play diplomacy here with my friends. we would like to chose countries also. is it possible ? i know i can pass protect game so only friends can join, i dunno if we can chose countries. maybe we will have to trade account passwords so everyone plays desired country
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Silver Wolf (9388 D)
21 Oct 10 UTC
Where to request unpause the game?
Is it ok to ask here mods to unpause a specific game, or we should do it by email?

thx
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stratagos (3269 D(S))
20 Oct 10 UTC
AI Box Experiment Thread.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/AI-box_experiment

I'd say "wait for me to finish writing this", but I know that won't fly....
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Ruisdael (1529 D)
23 Oct 10 UTC
So many passwords
Hey all I'm new here and I was just wondering why so many people password protect their games.
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groza528 (518 D)
23 Oct 10 UTC
Retreating in an endgame situation
I just finished an anonymous gunboat game and I do not believe that any of the dislodged units in the last season were permitted to retreat. Surely under certain circumstances that retreat could be the difference between a solo and a draw, no? Does webDip process the win before or after autumn retreats, and/or does it have programming to know whether the retreat can affect the outcome of the game?
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
21 Oct 10 UTC
I am not a noob but I still need this question answered immediately. Lol.
What happens if you order your troops to attack your own troop with strength enough that it would ordinarily be dislodged?
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