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Draugnar (0 DX)
02 Sep 12 UTC
@Bob Genghiskahn...
I'm watching Bill and Ted and the guys just introduced you to Missy. Can't wait for you to trash the sporting goods store.
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Skittles (1014 D)
02 Sep 12 UTC
EOG: Symphony of terror; aka the dumbest game in the history of webdip
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MichiganMan (5121 D)
01 Sep 12 UTC
Live WTA-GB 57 EoG
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=98484

Germany CD's, everyone votes to Draw, but not SplitDiplomat. Nope, he votes to Cancel/Pause. What a joke. Split, you are the ultimate KING of playing through CD's. You're a piece of work.
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krellin (80 DX)
01 Sep 12 UTC
Need ONE Fantasy Football Manager
Need ONE....just one....

Yahoo.League 651742
Password: webdip
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President Eden (2750 D)
27 Aug 12 UTC
Here comes a storm!
Post all Hurricane Isaac related news here.

I would normally be worried, but, well, you know. The land has ways of shutting down them storms to make sure they don't do too much damage, so as long as it's a legitimate hurricane I think we'll be okay.
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ava2790 (232 D(S))
01 Sep 12 UTC
Classy revenge prank - seeking suggestions/accomplices
See inside for details.
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Sandgoose (0 DX)
31 Aug 12 UTC
the leagues...2012
i never got an email or my invitation but i see that some games have started...someone want to tell me what the hell is going on?
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
25 Aug 12 UTC
Help for all you Webdip freeloaders ......
Just use this link ..... sign in to Paypal and do the right thing, you know you want to, you'll feel a lot better when you've done it, like giving blood but easier :-)
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dangermouse (5551 D)
01 Sep 12 UTC
How I broke my computer with Avast
So, I ran a full scan with Avast yesterday and it found several thousand files that it classified as threats. I looked through them a bit, many seemed to be .dlls but but without giving it a lot of thought I instructed Avast to attempt repairs. This seems to have been a terrible mistake.
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Sydney City (0 DX)
01 Sep 12 UTC
First day of Spring
WOO HOO!
That is.... for all Southern Hemisphere peoples:)
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DrCJG (1228 D)
01 Sep 12 UTC
Need 2 more for an introductory game.... starts in 2.5 hrs
Game: Duke 1L
Password: Iqbal
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
30 Aug 12 UTC
Racist Republicans...... in 2012, in the USA
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19414600

This is so incredulous I'm posting it again......a black camerawoman gets nuts chucked at her by racist Republican supporters
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Mafialligator (239 D)
30 Aug 12 UTC
But my point is, you did want to sleep with her. The only reason you changed your mind, hypothetically is becasue she was trans.
I also never used the word hatred. But that is prejudiced. I'm sorry.

And no, what counts as a woman is not defined by YOUR sexual desire. Even if that sentence had a specific meaning in this context, even if you didn't mean to imply that "Woman=Invictus wants to bone this person" you still said it. You still typed the words "They're not women in terms of me being attracted to them." And it didn't occur to you that something was wrong there.
Mafialligator (239 D)
30 Aug 12 UTC
Look you keep emphasizing that you don't hate transgendered people and that you wouldn't turn violent. I know you won't believe me about this, but I believe you. I really actually do. In fact, I believed that point before you even said it. It went without saying. Honestly and sincerely. I never thought that of you. I'm not accusing you of hatred. I'm not accusing you of being violent or dangerous. All I'm saying is you aren't examining the issue critically. You're letting yourself dismiss and degrade an entire group of people because of who they are, and are simply saying "I don't have to examine it, I'm just not attracted to them." Well yes, that's all well and good, and you're right, you don't have to have sex with anyone you don't want to. But are you really completely thinking for yourself when you say "Oh I don't want to have sex with transwomen" or are you letting a culture which is actually quite prejudiced in a lot of subtle ways against them pull you along with it, without thinking twice?
Octavious (2701 D)
30 Aug 12 UTC
I'm really looking forward to election night. The quality of forum threads will increase dramatically once this circus has packed up.
Stressedlines (1559 D)
30 Aug 12 UTC
He also insulted all gay men by saying he didnt want to bang a dude. A lotof gay men out there are heart broken now, because he is prejudice.
Mafialligator (239 D)
30 Aug 12 UTC
Oh shut up Stressedlines. You couldn't have missed the point more thoroughly if you'd been trying.
Stressedlines (1559 D)
30 Aug 12 UTC
I was JOKING dumbass I need the /sarcasm thing I guess.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
30 Aug 12 UTC
@mafia

I would be very interested in hearing what you thinks defines one's gender. You clearly don't think it's the anatomy they are born with. Is it their current anatomy? Is a transgender woman a woman before she has her penis cut off? Can you change your gender several times in your life?
Stressedlines (1559 D)
30 Aug 12 UTC
The fact that it is a deal breaker for him, and he is now a bigot, or whatever word you used, I do not feel like scrolling up, is laughable.

Why is it any concern to YOU who we wants to sleep with, or why? If the fact they are transgender is a big deal to him, then it is HIS business, not yours. You trying to make him feel guilty for something you think is 'ok and cool' does not make you right.

His life, his choices. Now I am not joking. He is 100% right, you are telling him how to live his life in your own sublte way.

The fact that is actually become a conversation is really the interesting part of it all, and you took offense to his tastes, and trying to call him out onto the floor for it.
Mafialligator (239 D)
30 Aug 12 UTC
@ Stressedlines - That's not fair for two reasons. 1 this became a discussion because someone posted an article written by a transperson which was about the requirement to disclose. The idea that transpeople have a responsibility to tell their partners that they are trans. I came down on the no side. Invictus said that they did, because he wanted to know beforehand because he didn't want to sleep with a transperson. The debate evolved from there. I did not just randomly attack him about his sexual tastes, as you seem to be painting it here.
Also if someone being black were a deal breaker for him, would that just be his sexual tastes and that's all there is to it? Or would there be some kind of unexamined racial prejudice at play there.
If he felt that way about a bisexual woman, would that be totally OK, or would it be slightly biphobic?

Yes, his life, his choices. That is absolutely true. But does that mean that the choices people make are necessarily free of prejudice? Is any choice necessarily always made for completely good reasons? Are all choices completely devoid of moral implications? I think that's a ridiculous thing to say.
Draugnar (0 DX)
30 Aug 12 UTC
Hey Mafia! If I saw what looked like a really hot chick on the street and got "her" back to my place to fuck only to discover "she" had a cock swinging between "her" legs, like Tone Lōc, "she'd" be outta my place. Sorry, but if I'm banging a hot asshole (nothing against anal), I want to reach around and diddle a twat, not grab a handle bar. that ain't prejudice, it's knowing what I find sexually attarctiv3e and want to fuck and, if I were single, I woudln't date anyone I didn't want to fuck.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
30 Aug 12 UTC
I find it interesting some here would put forward the idea that this was all a conspiracy...

...Never mind which makes more sense and which is more likely, that a few scumbag racist members from an overwhelmingly-white Party threw nuts at a couple black people that were there, as is being reported, OR that this is all some elaborate scheme by someone somewhere to frame the Republicans...

I find it interesting you leap past the more plausible one to the more comfortable one.

Naturally no one wants to see a racist tinge to their party, so of course it's easier to convince yourself of nearly anything else...

And THEN asking everyone else to prove otherwise.

Interesting.

Hear no evil, see no evil when it's the party you like...there's a perfectly reasonable excuse...even if it's a conspiracy theory, that's more likely than a couple racists...

When it's The Other Guys, suddenly, every pin-drop is socialism or playing the race card or some other over-the-top trumped-up charge.

Hm.
Draugnar (0 DX)
30 Aug 12 UTC
@Obi - And when it's the other guys (in your case) you see a racist motivation when the truth is we don't know who did what to whom and for all we know it was a bunch of Romnies throwing peanuts at Paulies or vice versa and the race wasn't even the motivation. But see you assume the Other Side is racist. Your logic works both ways, fucktard.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
30 Aug 12 UTC
"I'm the one who said you can't rule out the possibility of those people being planted. I wouldn't put it past Team Obama and their minions. Obama has ran the dirtiest, untruthful campaigns in recent memory."

Wanna bet?

Go ahead--tell me why it's the dirtiest.

Not just that it was a NEGATIVE campaign, Gunfighter, and that he had attack ads...every political race has that, so you cannot say that in itself is even dirty, let alone dirtiest...

What ABOUT the attack ads, or anything else, specifically, has made Obama's campaign "The dirtiest" in history?

(On the "untruthful" charge, I'd like to point out numerous news articles have pointed out that several of Romney's ads on Obama's approach to unemployment and welfare HAVE actually been untruthful, so at best you can say both sides have distorted the truth for their own ends...shocker, I know, in a political campaign...)

And his "minions?" O.o Really? Are you going Sean Hannity on us, Gunfighter?

You have no proof whatsoever it was Obama, overwhelming evidence and logic says it was just two racist Republican punks that don't necessarily stand for their party...

And your response is "By God! I wouldn't put it past The Evil Dr. Obama and his Army of Minions!"
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
30 Aug 12 UTC
"And when it's the other guys (in your case) you see a racist motivation when the truth is we don't know who did what to whom and for all we know it was a bunch of Romnies throwing peanuts at Paulies or vice versa and the race wasn't even the motivation. But see you assume the Other Side is racist. Your logic works both ways, fucktard."

We know it was at black camerawomen, yes?
...
How many black camerawomen work for the Ron Paul campaign...AT the RNC, hm?
Draugnar (0 DX)
30 Aug 12 UTC
Again, prove motive/intent, fuckwit college brat.
Mafialligator (239 D)
30 Aug 12 UTC
Something I think we can all agree on, this election would be much better if Nixon's head in a jar mounted on an enormous robot body were running as well.
Mafialligator (239 D)
30 Aug 12 UTC
That's all very well Draugnar. Why is that first off?

Second of all, some transwomen do have vaginas. Not all of them still have penises. What would your stance be then?
Mafialligator (239 D)
30 Aug 12 UTC
Errr, stance here meaning opinion, not, like, posture during sex.

Also since the article in question that started this debate so long ago, involved the necessity of disclosing trans status at all, and was obviously predicated on the assumption that this hypothetical person could pass as a woman even after sex had occurred, I had kind of been thinking of this debate in terms of trans women with vaginas.

I'm still not entirely sure it's absolutely the best way to think about gender, but I'm not about to argue with a straight guy who says he doesn't want his partner to have a penis.
Tyran (914 D)
30 Aug 12 UTC
IMHO I know a lot of people. The racist ones almost always tend to be republicans. The ones that are very anti racist and favor other colors and lgbt are very liberal. The president is black. Is it not completely safe to say that all racists will be running to the opposition party and their convention to give there support to the white man and not as I've heard said "that dumb n word"
Tyran (914 D)
30 Aug 12 UTC
Their*
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
30 Aug 12 UTC
What's more, I didn't say "These two did it, thus Republicans are all racist!" I said, and I quote,

"Hear no evil, see no evil when it's the party you like...there's a perfectly reasonable excuse...even if it's a conspiracy theory, that's more likely than a couple racists..."

Do a couple racists a party make, or color, Draugnar?

I didn't think so.

About the closest I come to implying the Republican party is "racist" is by pointing out it's overwhelmingly-white.

...Care to disagree with the factual demographics?

It's true. Doesn't make them racist, but it's true--overwhelmingly, the GOP is White...

And at that, overwhelmingly, most of those attending the RNC are white.

Those are FACTS. Take from them what you will--but you need not leap to racist conclusions, as I did not, merely saying that, after all, a couple white racists out of an almost-all-white batch seems more likely than "Obama sent in a super-secret spy team of minions to frame Romney."

Couple of bad nuts (pun intended) out of a mostly-white crowd, or Obama is sitting there in the Oval Office stroking a cat and planning to take over the world, one political convention at a time?

Which is more likely, Draug, Gunfighter, Stressedlines--WHICH?

The fact the latter could be the case doesn't mean it warrants serious consideration, either, you cannot simply say "It COULD be the the case, you can't prove it's not true, therefore, we may treat it as if it is true, or an equal candidate for being true."

^Fallacy, right there...somewhat akin to saying "I know Evolution, Physics, and Geology points every way to the contrary, but PROVE the Earth wasn't created 6,000 years ago by a Deity in 6 days, rested on the 7th, and then plopped 2 naked folks in a Garden with Talking Snakes to start human history."

If you believe in that dogma long and hard and strong enough, no amount of reason is needed, you've already come to your conclusion sans evidence, and now seeks evidence to back your conclusion.

Can we prove the Genesis story didn't happen?
No.
Can we give just about every counter-proof to why it doesn't work and every shred of evidence to show the Big Bang + Evolution story works in its place and thus there is no rational reason to jump to an ill-founded conclusion on little to no evidence?
YES.

Likewise:

Can I prove it wasn't Moriarty Obama's super-secret master plan?
No.
Can rationality, demographics, statistics, circumstance, reported facts, and just about everything else give evidence it was a couple of racist asses rather than planted men?
YES.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
30 Aug 12 UTC
"Again, prove motive/intent, fuckwit college brat."

I thought "black camerawoman/white racist" was enough of a motive...?

It's more plausible than the spy story you're giving (and I'd like to point out that I am capable of having a mature conversation without swearing like a teenager masturbating over the fact he can cuss, Draugnar--care to try the same and have a civil conversation? we might take you more seriously that way, you see...)
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
30 Aug 12 UTC
Mafi continues to win with his posts...

Also--how did we get on the issue of sexuality, let alone transsexualism, from political parties and a couple racists? O.O
Draugnar (0 DX)
30 Aug 12 UTC
Sure, if you can stop being so dense and assume that when the victim happens to be black and the perps white, it was racist (yet I bet you don't think that when some black guy guns down a white guy who happens to be in the wrong place at the worng time). You say blackcamera woman/"white racists". How the fuck do you know they are racist? If I throw something at someone and they happen to be black, does that make me racist? Fuck no! It doesn't. Circumstance does not equal motive, fuckwit.
Mafialligator (239 D)
30 Aug 12 UTC
Invictus invoked, and in my opinion, unfairly misrepresented an old argument in order to convince everyone else that I'm not worth listening to.
Mafialligator (239 D)
30 Aug 12 UTC
Well the racial slur that followed closely on the peanut throwing may have been a tip off...
Draugnar (0 DX)
30 Aug 12 UTC
"animals" is not inhernetly racist. "niggers" would have been racist. I refer to hardcore felons as "animals" all the time (which is unfair to the animal kingdom) so maybe they were referring to her being media. YOU DON'T KNOW! Fuck, they won't even release the camera woman's name or the offenders' names and they were just escorted out, not arrested nor were charges of hate speech pressed. Seriously, reading way more into it than may have been there.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
30 Aug 12 UTC
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/28/republican-cnn-attack-animal-peanuts-racist_n_1838249.html

CNN confirms, as it was THEIR camerawoman, that she WAS black.

There's half of it.

Now...take a look at the RNC, Draugnar.

Take a look at most of the people there.

What color are they...OVERWHELMINGLY, over 90%, what color are they?



Put it together, Sherlock--if you had to make an assumption based on black camerawoman, the statement "this is how we feed animals" being confirmed by eyewitnesses, the comparison of blacks to animals being a staple in white/black racism in parts of the US, AND that over 90% of those in attendance WERE WHITE...

By God, you're RIGHT, Draugnar!

From those clues...CLEARLY we can conclude the assailant was NOT white, but...

Taiwanese--OF COURSE! :O
Draugnar (0 DX)
30 Aug 12 UTC
And my bigger problem is how *two* individuals were equated by obitard as equalling the entire Republican party, who has denounced the actions of these two. I mean, fuck! I bet I can find a couple racist black men in the DNC convention too! It doesn't make the Dems an extension of the Black Panthers any more than these two make the Reps an extension of the KKK or skinheads.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
30 Aug 12 UTC
""animals" is not inhernetly racist. "niggers" would have been racist."

Well, I've been cursed at enough, I feel I've earned one, I'll cash that in now--

Comparing someone to an animal whist throwing peanuts at them =/=racism?

Shut the fuck up.

That's a dumb, dumb statement, even for you, Draug, that's flat-out DUMB.

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Zmaj (215 D(B))
01 Sep 12 UTC
EoG: Mum's the word
Some people just weren't that good...
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jabberjawsjr (100 D)
01 Sep 12 UTC
Need a sitter
I need a sitter from tomorrow to Monday. Its a couple day period but you only need to log in once, after the phase change of gameID=92739 . PM me if you are interested.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
26 Aug 12 UTC
****Every forum needs its characters****
Ant there are a few on here that I have muchly enjoyed.
I will name a few and please feel free to do likewise.
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MichiganMan (5121 D)
31 Aug 12 UTC
Go Blue!
Just about 24 hours until Michigan takes on the defending National Champion Alabama.

Go Blue!
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Tasnica (3366 D)
21 Jul 12 UTC
Dubmdell Gunboat Invitational
Figured that I would re-make this thread, since at least one of the 14 games has concluded.
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Mapu (362 D)
30 Aug 12 UTC
17-17 game...
I'm in a 17-17 game as Carthage. Pretty exciting -- it looks like I have an opening in Dalmatia to get the win:

http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=97378#gamePanel
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
31 Aug 12 UTC
Republican National Convention Speeches
Evaluations so far, and then afterward, when Romney's given his?
(To go first--don't agree with him, obviously, but CLINT EASTWOOD IS HILARIOUS!) xD

Can he follow that? Do ya feel lucky, Romney? Well, do ya? ;)
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Mapu (362 D)
27 Aug 12 UTC
I need some Pro Tips please!
I've been playing on the site for a few weeks now after playing the board game several times in the past. The thing I am finding the most difficult is being too trusting.
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tarspaceheel (503 D)
31 Aug 12 UTC
Gunboating as Italy
Is there anything to be done? I'm just coming off of my second gunboat in a row being assigned Italy, and I'm finding that Italy's already-weak position in a standard-press game quickly turns disastrous without the ability to negotiate with potential allies.

Is there any way to help this situation? Anyone with experience winning, or at least getting a strong draw with Italy?
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
25 Aug 12 UTC
****** It's Official ******
........ Romney is a complete fuckwit
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19372536

Is he trying to lose on purpose, the man is an idiot !!
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
28 Aug 12 UTC
For Once, I Have Sympathy For...Ron Paul?
http://news.yahoo.com/gop-convention-floor-fight-averted-005806537--abc-news-politics.html I dislike Paul. I don't like his politics, and I'm iffy on his character. Even still, threatening to silence those at the GOP National Convention who would cast delegate votes for him instead of Romney...if your ticket is so weak you can only foster party unity by silencing part of your party, what does it say about the strength and quality of that ticket?
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
31 Aug 12 UTC
League Season - Fall/Autumn 2012
Games starting now...

check your pms and emails (emails sent to the address you have registered on your webdip profile)
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Putin33 (111 D)
28 Aug 12 UTC
Amnesty International hacked
And exposed for being imperialist stooges. LOLOLOL.
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taos (281 D)
24 Aug 12 UTC
games left(need replacement)
i am tyred of ppl quiting just because they think they can ruin my game!
the idea is to post here games left ,so we can find a replacement as fast as possible and continue with a new real human being as enemy.
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Fortress Door (1837 D)
19 Aug 12 UTC
The Ultimite Showdown
because the new thread got locked
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
30 Aug 12 UTC
Blind Anon Invitational Games
PM me if you are interested.
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oneirovatis (95 D)
30 Aug 12 UTC
come to play!
here http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=98360
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2ndWhiteLine (2606 D(B))
29 Aug 12 UTC
Pres. Obama broke reddit
Doing an AMA right now.
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