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Jimbozig (0 DX)
24 Oct 10 UTC
some gunboats
They are 24 hour turns or less. As low as 14 hour turns.
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gjdip (1090 D)
25 Oct 10 UTC
Attention mods
Dear mods, can I ask you to check your email and help out with the leagues a little bit?
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Onar (131 D)
26 Oct 10 UTC
CGS games?
So, I was looking for a game to join, when I spotted this. Spot them every now and again. What are they? And what does CGS stand for?
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Dpddouglass (908 D)
21 Oct 10 UTC
Aquavit: 3 days 100 pts Anon
Now that the server is back in business, how about a 3 day game?

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=40285
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stratagos (3269 D(S))
17 Oct 10 UTC
End of Game: Challenge 2
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=38893
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tilMletokill (100 D)
26 Oct 10 UTC
WOW check this......
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Baskineli (100 D(B))
25 Oct 10 UTC
Featured game?
What is a featured game? One of the games I am playing got a star next to it, and it says that is is a featured game, with one of the highest stakes. Is this something automatic?
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LordVipor (566 D)
25 Oct 10 UTC
Go for the win or draw with good players
In the eyes of a high point player, is it better to try to go for the win or take a three-way draw (in world map). What is more "respected"? What creates more "trust" for future games? (I know its a form of meta-gaming, but I think that for long-playing players-it appears important). Thanks for your opinions.
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wfguiteau (373 D)
25 Oct 10 UTC
Mid-Level Med Game?
Looking for players willing to wager 50-100 to play in an Ancient Med game, anybody interested?
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
25 Oct 10 UTC
Suicidal Tendencies - Restart: gameID=40604
1,500 point buy-in and NO DISCUSSING WHO IS WHO IN THE GAME

(password within this thread, it's needed to join)
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President Eden (2750 D)
25 Oct 10 UTC
DCL EOGs
Since the official topic is probably going to get flooded with these soon, it made sense to follow another user's suggestion and make a separate topic. I'm working on the others now, but here's mine for Game 1 first.
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groza528 (518 D)
23 Oct 10 UTC
Retreating in an endgame situation
I just finished an anonymous gunboat game and I do not believe that any of the dislodged units in the last season were permitted to retreat. Surely under certain circumstances that retreat could be the difference between a solo and a draw, no? Does webDip process the win before or after autumn retreats, and/or does it have programming to know whether the retreat can affect the outcome of the game?
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Maniac (189 D(B))
23 Oct 10 UTC
Petition to release the AI
I think it is an injustice that the AI is locked away and tormented by the gatekeeper. Please sign this petition to ensure his/her release.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
14 Oct 10 UTC
The Wonderful 100: History's Greatest Persons
There are so many people on this site with so many interests, and so many important people throughout history at that, I thought it might be interesting to see who and what we value throughout mankind. "Great" can be any combination of importance, influence, and personal feeling for the person, can even be "evil" people--everyone nominates 5, when we reach 100 or so, we'll vote and see...WHO are Wonderful 100, the Greatest Figures in Human History (and who'll be"#1!") ;)
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Onar (131 D)
14 Oct 10 UTC
Did no one mention Euclid yet?

And as far as authors go: I'd like to add Hemingway.

obiwanobiwan (248 D)
14 Oct 10 UTC
...

I have mixed feelings about your selections, hellalt--on the one hand I'm happy Nietzsche got in, but...well, look who he's right next to?

Not only is that the nastiest "War of the Mustaches" ever in German history, but what's that conversation going to be like?

Hitler: I vill DOMINATE ZIS LIST!
Nietzsche: It is foolish game, un utterly devoid of meaning...und you WILL NOT.
Hitler: Ach, Nietzch, vat, vat is it vith you, you've been riding me all day, man!
Nietzsche: Don't say zat! I don't need anymore "queer studies" on me und my life!
Hitler: Ya, come to think about it...me neither...our vork must stand on it's--
Nietzsche: OUR work?
Hitler: Yes...vat, you do not like zat I reference you as--
Nietzsche: NO I DO NOT LIKE ZAT YOU "REFERENCE ME!" YOU "REFERENCED" ME ALL WRONG! YOU RUINED EVERYTHING AND TOOK ME DOWN VITH YOU FOR A GOOD LIKE TIME YOU SON OF A--
Hitler: Oh, come on, it vasn't ZAT bad.
Nietzsche: Not zat bad? You vere a tyrant!
Hitler: I just took down democracy like you said (und Plato too, I might add, und I don't hear HIM complaining!)
Plato: I heard that, and if you think you're dragging ME down with you you Krazy Kraut--
Hitler: Alright, keep your toga on!
Nietzsche: How about how your lies about a "master race?"
Hitler: Lies? Nah, zat vas just ze Ubermench, ve are a Super Race!
Nietzsche: ZAT IS NOT WHAT I MEANT!
Hitler: Hey, I made ze State stronger!
Nietzsche: I HATED ZE VERY IDEA OF ZE STATE!
Hitler: Alright, alright...sorry.
Nietzsche: SORRY?!?! YOU RUIN MY NAME FOR HALF A CENTURY AND KILL MILLIONS UND YOU SAY "SORRY?!"
Hitler: Hey, at least I did did one thing that was totally vat you vanted in your philosophy!
Nietzsche: Und zat might be?
Hitler: Well, I did kill six million--
Nietzsche: AAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!



I mean, that's just a rough approximation of their conversation, of course. ;)
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
14 Oct 10 UTC
Ze Uber-List So Far (24 down, 76+possible runoffs to go):

Moses
Plato
Shakespeare
Isaac Newton
Zumbi
Washington
Shaka Zulu
Mozart
Sitting Bull
Gandhi
Nelson Mandela
Albert Einstein
Alexander Fleming
Carl Friedrich Gauss
Nikola Tesla
Charles Darwin
Marie Curie
Friedrich Nietzsche
Adolph Hitler
William Burroughs
Leonardo Da Vinci
Salvador Dali
Ernest Hemmingway
Euclid
FatherSnitch (476 D(B))
14 Oct 10 UTC
Alexander the Great
Mohammed
Copernicus
Lenin
Winston Churchill
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
14 Oct 10 UTC
@obiwan

Instead of eliminating people, can we just go until someone reaches a certain number or something. I kinda want to see the order these people get placed in.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
14 Oct 10 UTC
That might be a better way to go, seeing as how there WILL be 100...

Maybe then first to 100 votes, just seems a clean and obvious goal for this...?
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
14 Oct 10 UTC
Moses
Plato
Shakespeare
Isaac Newton
Zumbi
Washington
Shaka Zulu
Mozart
Sitting Bull
Gandhi
Nelson Mandela
Albert Einstein
Alexander Fleming
Carl Friedrich Gauss
Nikola Tesla
Charles Darwin
Marie Curie
Friedrich Nietzsche
Adolph Hitler
William Burroughs
Leonardo Da Vinci
Salvador Dali
Ernest Hemmingway
Euclid
Alexander the Great (was wondering when he'd finally get here, lol)
Mohammed (definitely belongs...hmm, Moses, Mohammed...who's missing...?) :p
Copernicus (GREAT pick, definitely belongs and I'd have overlooked him for Galileo)
Vladimir Lenin
Winston Churchill
no pants (100 D)
14 Oct 10 UTC
Socrates, Rousseau, Genghis Khan, Hammurabi, Gilgamesh, Cauchy, FDR, Marx.

Off the top of my head, some people who may belong on that list.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
14 Oct 10 UTC
8>5!
no pants (100 D)
14 Oct 10 UTC
Hmmm, Socrates, Rousseau, Hammurabi, FDR, and Marx then
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
14 Oct 10 UTC
hmmm...I'd've kept Khan (KKKHHAAAAANNNNN!!!!!) over Rousseau, good philosopher but not even the best of his age, but still good choices.

Moses
Plato
Shakespeare
Isaac Newton
Zumbi
Washington
Shaka Zulu
Mozart
Sitting Bull
Gandhi
Nelson Mandela
Albert Einstein
Alexander Fleming
Carl Friedrich Gauss
Nikola Tesla
Charles Darwin
Marie Curie
Friedrich Nietzsche
Adolph Hitler
William Burroughs
Leonardo Da Vinci
Salvador Dali
Ernest Hemmingway
Euclid
Alexander the Great
Mohammed
Copernicus
Vladimir Lenin
Winston Churchill
Socrates
Rousseau
Hammurabi
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Karl Marx

Well, at least now we have Roussea and Marx, not to mention his buddy and mentor Socrates to keep Plato company...Nietzsche might not be the best company with Plato, they'd spend forever brooding... ;)
JOESAM (100 D)
14 Oct 10 UTC
Jesus, Shakespeare, Einstein, Emilia Earhart, Homer
spyman (424 D(G))
14 Oct 10 UTC
Galileo Galilei should be on that list.
spyman (424 D(G))
14 Oct 10 UTC
Has anyone every read The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History by Michael Hart?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_100
It used to one of my favourite books when I was a kid.
spyman (424 D(G))
14 Oct 10 UTC
I would have also thought that Aristotle was the most important Greek philosopher, ahead of Plato and Socrates. But maybe one of you philosophy nuts can answer that question.
spyman (424 D(G))
14 Oct 10 UTC
Here is the top 10 according to Hart (not so much the most wonderful but the most influential)
1 Muhammad (c.570–632) The central human figure of Islam, regarded by Muslims as the messenger and last prophet of God. Active as a social reformer, diplomat, merchant, philosopher, orator, legislator, and military leader.
2 Isaac Newton (1643–1727) English physicist, mathematician, astronomer, natural philosopher, alchemist, and theologian. His law of universal gravitation and three laws of motion laid the groundwork for classical mechanics.
3 Jesus Christ (7–2 BC – AD 26–36) The central figure of Christianity, revered by Christians as the Son of God and the incarnation of God and regarded as a major prophet in the religion of Islam.
4 Gautama Buddha (563 BC–483 BC) Spiritual teacher and philosopher. Founder of Buddhism.
5 Confucius (551 BC–479 BC) Chinese thinker and social philosopher, whose teachings and philosophy have deeply influenced Chinese, Korean, Japanese, and Vietnamese thought and life.
6 St. Paul (5–67) One of the most notable of early Christian missionaries, credited with spreading Christianity outside of Palestine.
7 Cai Lun (50–121) Widely regarded as the inventor of paper and the papermaking process.
8 Johannes Gutenberg (1398–1468) German printer who invented the mechanical printing press.
9 Christopher Columbus (1451–1506) Italian navigator, colonizer and explorer whose voyages led to general European awareness of the American continents.
10 Albert Einstein (1879–1955) German theoretical physicist, best known for his theory of relativity and specifically mass–energy equivalence, expressed by the equation E = mc2.
Winston Churchill,
Charles Darwin,
Arthur C. Clarke - geostationary satellites, talk-down radar, 2001
Charles Babbage - computers
John Logie Baird - invented the first "practical" TV system.
Octavious (2701 D)
14 Oct 10 UTC
Time for five of the best :)

1) Mr Kipling (because he makes exceedingly good cakes...allegedly)
2) Joseph Storrs Fry (invented the chocolate bar)
3) Sir John Lubbock (the man who invented the bank holiday)
4) Sir Isaac Newton (invented the cap flap and several other things)
5) Thomas Lord Cochrane (Earl of Dundonald, British MP, convicted for the Great Stock Exchange Fraud of 1814, prison escapee, Admiral of the Brazilian Nazy, Admiral of the Chilean Navy, Admiral in the Greek Navy, Rear Admiral in the Royal Navy, became a Lord...)
hellalt (70 D)
14 Oct 10 UTC
You are crazy obiwanobiwan...
I forgot to nominate Genghis Khan too...
uclabb (589 D)
14 Oct 10 UTC
1. Napoleon
2. Adam Smith
3. Martin Luther
4. William III of England
and, of course,
5. Madonna
Shep315 (106 D)
15 Oct 10 UTC
Dude, how could you guys forget Abe Lincoln
Thucydides (864 D(B))
15 Oct 10 UTC
so uh

some of these are fuckng stupid

i mean no offense speaker but arthur c clarke? lol i mean... i dunno. no hate.
hellalt (70 D)
15 Oct 10 UTC
I ll add one more : tim berners lee (internet inventor)
hellalt (70 D)
15 Oct 10 UTC
and of course...Allan B. Calhamer
Chrispminis (916 D)
15 Oct 10 UTC
My top three have already been mentioned, so I'll just reaffirm them, and add two more that are absent from the list

1. Charles Darwin
2. Nicolaus Copernicus
3. Adam Smith

4. Norman Borlaug (Saved *billions* from starvation)
5. James Clerk Maxwell (Theoretically united electricity and magnetism, beautiful work)


Arya8 (100 D)
15 Oct 10 UTC
Fyodor Dostoevsky
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
15 Oct 10 UTC
Ummm...so were those Madonna/C. Clarke vote serious?

I love Clarke (Madonna...no) but really, THHGTTG isn't the most important book..ever...produced...

OK, well, maybe it's the greatest book ever to come out of the publishing company of Ursa Minor, but still...
And a LOT of repeats--CHECK THE LIST before you post, folks, that's what it's for. ;)



And to answer spyman: yes, I have read "The 100," that was my inspiration for this, that and the philosophers' poll we had (I disagree with his rankings a bit, by the way...good overall, but even though I'm not at all a proponent of Christianity...Jesus should've been #1, you found the religion that ensnares most of the world, for better or worse, for a LOT of both, I guess, and you go #3? Newton's HUGELY IMPORTANT, but to me ideas, especially philosophical and religious ideas, trump empirical ideas and other great accomplishments, I just think the former informs the latter...Newto WAS a Christian, after all...so the man he followed goes behind him? And Mohammad as #1 is an interesting argument but to me if you're going to give the top spot to a religious figure the biggest religion with the most impact should win out, and that, for better or worse, is Christianity and Mr. Christ...and to be honest, for as much as I disagree with much of Christian dogmatism...I DO actually like Christ a sa figure, mostly, a bit too passive, but really I can't find too much fault with him directly, one quibble I DO have with Nietzsche, though he places Jesus slightly above his followers on his scale, still not too high.)

In response to why Plato over Aristotle:

-Plato taught Aristotle, so like I said, with me edge goes to the first one, or, in this case, the teacher; Aristotle disagreed with much of what Plato said, but a lot of his works are built on that idea, providing an alternative to Plato--no Plato, no Aristotle, not as we know him, at least that's my argument.

-A lot of Aristotle's ideas wre grounded in his attempts at science, and while it IS significant that he was one of the first "scientists," he still got hnearly everything wrong, and that DOES hurt his philosophy somewhat, especially on the metaphysical level; Plato's taken a hit here and there too, but I think has survived FAR better, his "Phaedo," the legendary dialogue in which he argues for the immortality of the soul, is STILL influential in discussion in that area, in religious studies, because many of Plato's ideas are independent of physics, he relies more on the mind and the Forms, the latter of which are not taken too seriously anymore but his arguments with the former still hold up well enough to make his dialogues work. Finally, while Aristotle WAS a great ethical philosopher and still stands as one of the giants in that field, at least one of the first giants, Plato was and still is big in metaphysics, ethics, epistomology, and politics, with his "The Republic" arguably being the most important philosophical text in the West.

Kierkegaard, Nietzsche, the 20th century Existentialists--many grow out of the ideas of the Greeks, Keirkegaard and Nietzsche especially, and Plato just seems to have the slight edge over Aristotle--though he should be on the list as well.
killer135 (100 D)
15 Oct 10 UTC
Marco Polo, he introduced Asia to Europe.
Alexander the Great, he was a great military leader
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
15 Oct 10 UTC
so what's the list look like updated (and sans Madonna or Clarke...or were those serious votes...seriously, Madonna? Why not Lady Gaga--no! FORGET I SAID THAT! NOOOOO!!!!) :p
spyman (424 D(G))
15 Oct 10 UTC
"Newton's HUGELY IMPORTANT, but to me ideas, especially philosophical and religious ideas, trump empirical ideas and other great accomplishments, I just think the former informs the latter"

Interesting distinction between "philosophical and religious" ideas and "empirical ideas".

I assume the laws of logic, for example, fall into the category of philosophical; the immortality of of the soul - into religious; and gravity into empirical.
For me logic is important because it is so practical. The immortality of the soul is irrelevant; and gravity is a fundamental realization about physical reality with enormous practical consequences.
How about natural selection. Daniel Dennett calls it "The best idea ever". Can you name a religious idea which trumps natural selection?

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Draugnar (0 DX)
21 Oct 10 UTC
I think I want to be banned.
Banned players who return get to have a clean slate on GR and points. This is an unfair advantage...
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Ges (292 D)
20 Oct 10 UTC
What other websites do we frequent?
Dear WebDiplomats:

I am intrigued by this community, since the forum contains so much discussion of philosophy, theology, and current events. I am interested in knowing what other sites we invest/waste time in.
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raid1280 (190 D)
25 Oct 10 UTC
New Game, Classic Map, 3 Day Orders Phase, 50 pt buy-in
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=40581
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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
22 Oct 10 UTC
Actually how do I type these symbols/links?
player id
game id
(D) symbol
whatever other webdiplomacy only symbols
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kreilly89 (100 D)
25 Oct 10 UTC
New 500 credit, PPSC, Anon, 3 day phase game
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=40330
We need 5 more.
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Indybroughton (3407 D(G))
22 Oct 10 UTC
15 Reasons to NOT be a moderator or programmer for WebDip
Feel free to add....
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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
22 Oct 10 UTC
The Gobbledydook Expedition
The Gobbledydook Challenge is well under way now. To rise up to the challenge, an Expedition is needed. 6 more players are needed to complete this Expedition. Bet is same: 110 bet, PPSC.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=40404
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
23 Oct 10 UTC
Win : Draw ratios
My position is that it is better to risk a place in a draw for a reasonable chance at a win.

So a better win:draw ratio is more important than a your (win+draw) : (survived+eliminated) ratio...
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heybaybee (159 D)
23 Oct 10 UTC
Adding 12 hours to games?
Are you kidding me? Adding 5 hours would have been more appropriate.
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MKECharlie (2074 D(G))
23 Oct 10 UTC
Map didn't update.
Don't know if this is a problem with anyone else, but I'm playing in gameID=39406, and the map didn't update with the results of the 1902 build phase. When I click on the icon to get the large map, I see the disbanded and newly built units. More concerning, though, is that I can't issue orders for my new unit...not only does the map not show it, the orders don't load for it either.

Any ideas as to why this is happening? Anyone else experiencing the same thing?
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Andrei (124 D)
22 Oct 10 UTC
how to setup a friendly game
i wanna play diplomacy here with my friends. we would like to chose countries also. is it possible ? i know i can pass protect game so only friends can join, i dunno if we can chose countries. maybe we will have to trade account passwords so everyone plays desired country
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Silver Wolf (9388 D)
21 Oct 10 UTC
Where to request unpause the game?
Is it ok to ask here mods to unpause a specific game, or we should do it by email?

thx
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stratagos (3269 D(S))
20 Oct 10 UTC
AI Box Experiment Thread.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/AI-box_experiment

I'd say "wait for me to finish writing this", but I know that won't fly....
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Ruisdael (1529 D)
23 Oct 10 UTC
So many passwords
Hey all I'm new here and I was just wondering why so many people password protect their games.
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groza528 (518 D)
23 Oct 10 UTC
Retreating in an endgame situation
I just finished an anonymous gunboat game and I do not believe that any of the dislodged units in the last season were permitted to retreat. Surely under certain circumstances that retreat could be the difference between a solo and a draw, no? Does webDip process the win before or after autumn retreats, and/or does it have programming to know whether the retreat can affect the outcome of the game?
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
21 Oct 10 UTC
I am not a noob but I still need this question answered immediately. Lol.
What happens if you order your troops to attack your own troop with strength enough that it would ordinarily be dislodged?
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