well ive said enough this thread is just the kinda shit I dont wanna be involved in.

Please be serious.

Or maybe he only used those talking points to catapult his popularity needless to say it actually worked

America’s largest state economy is California, which produced $2.44 trillion of economic output in 2015, just slightly above the GDP of France during the same period of $2.42 trillion.

Consider this: California has a workforce of about 19 million compared to an employment level in France of slightly more than 25 million workers. Amazingly, it required 56 percent (and 9 million) more workers in France to produce the same economic output last year as California! That’s a testament to the superior, world-class productivity of the American worker.

Further, California as a separate country would have been the sixth largest economy in the world last year, ahead of France ($2.42 trillion) and India ($2.09 trillion) and not too far behind No. 5 U.K. at $2.85 trillion.

Back on topic: I hope that we can reach out to folks so we can stop all of this rhetoric and have unity now. Talks of secession, protests, riots, and other actions by the left is not good. IT will only break us apart. Let's come together now.

@curtis

ask the last group of people what happened when they tried to secede.

If California tries, it means war

No, democracy is this action. Having your voice heard is the most fundamental aspect of rule by the demos. The people.

And this is what the people feel, listen to them.

Texas is the one state that could create some kind of legitimate argument to secede for me. I know the economics are feasible, but our country is about more than that

I mean for the sake of people Democrats must unite under our president my sister was almost Trampled at UT because of stupid protests bordering Riots

I just hope everyone cools down and we can come together.

The Ununited States of America?

Floodgates well played

The states have ever been Dis-united...

make like the beatles and come together

It's funny watching the instantaneous rhetorical transformation.

"We" being who, ND? All Americans? Including the ones Trump pledged to discriminate against on the basis of their religion, their sexual orientation, and their place of origin?

It's very common for elections to have a majority vote to screw over a significant portion of the populace, and it's usually fine - that's the way democracy works. In this case it's different - it's a president who was voted in not just with policies that would negatively affect people, but who was voted in on a platform of demonising them and promising to discriminate against them. Telling these people to 'unite under Trump' is telling them to accept that they're the demons Trump made them out to be, and accept that they will be discriminated against as policy for the next 4 years.

I can imagine how frustrating it must be to be part of anything but a swing state.

Fine then don't unite under Trump unite under America Under the faith that the system will work and continue to function as it hat for the past 100's of years. THERE ARE checks and balances people these "discriminatory laws" will never happen!!

has*

Well, I mean, except for all the times discrimination has definitely happened...

There's checks and balances ASSUMING Trump's own party puts in the effort to stop him.

blacks in the original constitution had only 3/5 of a vote.... Now as a Californian my vote does not count as much as a person from a small state.... Hilary won the vote count but lost in the electorial college

Blacks could not vote. They were counted as 3/5 of a *person*, which is even worse than getting 3/5 of a vote.

@TRPrado some of his own party hates him

This system is in place for a long period of time. There was a supermajority of the democrats who could've changed the system. They didn't do it. The rules of the voting system still holds true.

Try to change it for the future, try to reach out to your senator, your gouvenor, to your representant. It will not remedy the last election void though.

Bridenstine hates him. That I know for sure. But he won't fight him. He would rather rally around the party.

What Abge said, 3/5ths for the purpose of calculating population - and thus how many electoral votes the states they lived in got.

Becuase the northern states wanted them to count as zero persons, and the slave owning states wanted them to count as full persons. (That way you could increase your electoral power by importing more people, as slaves, who would each count fully...)

So they compromised.

@"DammmmDaniel
Fine then don't unite under Trump unite under America Under the faith that the system will work and continue to function as it hat for the past 100's of years. THERE ARE checks and balances people these "discriminatory laws" will never happen!!"

Are you literally blind? The people who voted for Trump believe the system is rigged against them. Because it is. It is rigged to allow the rich, under the guise of faceless corporations, exploit and oppress them. It offers fair trials only to those who have enough money to pay for them. It offers corporations a bigger say in law-making via lobbiests and a bigger say in elections via political campaigns. It is more like 'One dollar, one vote', than 'One person, one vote'.

The supreme court declared money speech and corporations people. Therefore freedom to criticise the government has become freedom to buy politicians. Corruption cloaked inder the guise of freedom.

And many people who suffered under this broken system just elected Trump!

Trump has never said he would try to get Citizens United repealed. Clinton was the only candidate who might've selected a justice that would overturn CU.