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hecks (164 D)
25 Jul 13 UTC
Pet Photos
Post links to cute photos of your pets here.
Then predict how long before this thread goes political.
*bonus points to anyone who has a pet named Calvin Coolidge.
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
24 Jul 13 UTC
Arguing vs. Debating
Arguing is about bluster whereas debate is more about learning, than it is necessarily impressing the other side with how awesome your beliefs are.

Discuss.
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dirge (768 D(B))
21 Jul 13 UTC
Your favorite Avalon Hill style table top paper-cardboard-and-dice game?
A question for the old folks out there.
I don't remember the name of it, probably D-Day. Boxed, AH style. Covered Normandy invasion and reconquest of France. Played that over and over again back in the day. Good times.
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Draugnar (0 DX)
24 Jul 13 UTC
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hey JMO, Fuck you asswipe!
My phone doesn't speak fucking Star Wars and autocorrects Lando to Landowner the first time after each reboot (doesn't want to hold it in the dictionary) and you fucking *threaten* me? Fuck you and the horse you rode in on! Next time *ask* me in PM if that was my intent or do a little research with a brain that has common sense like abgemacht's. You're a fucking cunt!
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guy~~ (3779 D(B))
23 Jul 13 UTC
Question on new Americas' variant - 34 to solo?
Anyone have any idea why it is 34 SCs to solo? There are only about 58 or 59 SCs altogether so just wondering why the threshold isn't lower.
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Tardigrade (102 D)
24 Jul 13 UTC
American game in need of people.
There is currently an American game titled "The Great War for Texornia" that has five spaces left. The five people currently listed do know each other. Alliances and enemies however, will be made under circumstance and not pre-game relationships. Please take that into account if you sign up. The toll is 15 D and the ps is turner.
gameID=123095
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krellin (80 DX)
23 Jul 13 UTC
Carlos Danger!
Anthony Weiner - Racist Sexist Liberal? Uses Hispanic-sounding name "Carlos" while trolling for sex and spreading images of his namesake. And clearly insults all Hispanics by attaching "Danger" to his Hispanic alias...lol Too funny!
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/07/23/weiner-i-am-very-sorry-for-latest-sexting-revelations/
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dirge (768 D(B))
19 Jul 13 UTC
What activist do you hate the worst
Activists of all political stripes are some of the most annoying and intelligence reducing people on earth. Name your most hated activist.

Right at the moment, I'm thinking Julian Assange. His pathological narcissism only serves to flimsily mask his profound idiocy.
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joshildinho101 (128 D)
23 Jul 13 UTC
Gen Con Indy 2013!
This will be my first Gen Con, and I am very excited. I already signed up to be in as many diplomacy games as possible, are there any other games, similar to diplomacy, that I should look into? Ive been searching for an online multiplayer type game that involves controlling ones armies in actual battle. Does anyone know of any good ones?
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
24 Jul 13 UTC
EoG thread: I would like your home SCs and a raspberry muffin
EoG thread for gameID=120098
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Sbyvl36 (439 D)
23 Jul 13 UTC
I've been Challenged
Hecks challenged me to work Calvin Coolidge into 60 different threads in the next four days. That is why you are seeing Calvin Coolidge everywhere. It is part of the Calvin Coolidge Day celebrations.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
24 Jul 13 UTC
Who the World Reads the Most: UNESCO'S Top 50 Authors (Shakespeare #3!) ;)
http://www.unesco.org/xtrans/bsstatexp.aspx?crit1L=5&nTyp=min&topN=50
Note this list doesn't count "group" works (see: The Torah, Koran, Bible, etc., which were either written over centuries or...erm, God, and putting HIM on the list just isn't fair, :p ) but still, for all our literature discussions, it's interesting to see who gets translated the most and thus, arguably, is the most widely-read (in one sense)...Shakespeare at #3 I can see, but some of these are ODD...
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
22 Jul 13 UTC
Subs for The Masters
Rounds 5 and 6 are set to start and I need 4-5 people willing to step in. If more apply than I need, highest GR and reliability go in first.
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
22 Jul 13 UTC
Movie Recommendatin Please
As per below

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SplitDiplomat (101466 D)
24 Jul 13 UTC
Thank you Roger...
...for having paid a visit to me tonight,it was nice to see you again(after 30 years) !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peatix-r_h4
Say hello to David,Nick and especialy Rick (R.I.P) for me,love you guys!
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Sbyvl36 (439 D)
24 Jul 13 UTC
Mods please check your email
^
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kitsyprime (353 D)
24 Jul 13 UTC
Please Investigate WTA Live Gunboat-12 for cheating
France and England are remarkably co-ordinated. Please investigate.
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jimgov (219 D(B))
22 Jul 13 UTC
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Games being force processed in New Variant Gunboat Series
Although we started the games in the New Variant Gunboat Series with the now defunct rule of wait mode, some people have completely taken advantage of it. I am advancing the games that are overdue by at least 5 days tomorrow night. If you want to make your moves, please do so now. Thanks.
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semck83 (229 D(B))
23 Jul 13 UTC
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New prince in England
I doubt anybody here cares a great deal, but I have high hopes that the thread will evolve into some kind of massive insult-fest on an irrelevant topic.

Anyway, I wish the happy couple and the young royal lad all the best.
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
23 Jul 13 UTC
punctuation
When you quote a sentence, then end the sentence the quote is in, does the start of the sentence the quote is in start with a capital or not?
So is it: "No." he said
Or is it: "No." He said.
Or is it something else?
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duckofspades (170 D)
12 Jul 13 UTC
Draws
I have just started playing Diplomacy. I have noticed draws are very common. Games with nearly destroyed players drawing. Is that mind set of most players going into the game. "I'm going to draw". I tend to vote draw allot being new and wanting to just not die. Can threads add a poll. It would be fun to see how many players go for draw vs victory as a pregame goal.
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HighPlainsDrifter (228 D)
23 Jul 13 UTC
Need some help here...
I submitted orders correctly, double checked them, saved etc... and the game somehow misinterpreted them or didn't operate correctly and instead of getting an SC, I got bounced. Is there anyway to fix this short of coming to some agreement with the players in the game?
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Mosca (102 D)
22 Jul 13 UTC
Would really like to play a live game at a reasonable hour...
I got a classic live game set up for 45 minutes from now and we only need 2 more players. It's a 10 point buy-in, WTA.

gameID=123525
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donaldworrell (100 D)
19 Jul 13 UTC
standard games
i am new and want to join a standard 1901 game. whatam I looking for..
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rojimy1123 (597 D)
21 Jul 13 UTC
World Cup Minnows
Seeing as the CONCACAF Gold Cup is underway, and all football eyes aimed at Brazil next year, I'm wondering if this may be the year for CONCACAF, AFC, or CAF to finally break thru and win the big one. What's your take? Which country poses the biggest threat to CONMEBOL and UEFA's dominance next year?
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snowden007 (102 D)
21 Jul 13 UTC
I'm new. How do I submit an order?
My home page says I have no orders to submit. I don't see an obvious place to submit them. Please help!
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
22 Jul 13 UTC
Good Takeover Position
gameID=119692 ... 7-center Ukraine needs a caretaker. Can be a good position with some diplomatic effort.
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SpeakerToAliens (147 D(S))
21 Jul 13 UTC
R.I.P. Mel Smith
A comic genius. Dead before his time.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
22 Jul 13 UTC
What to do about the death penalty...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYzrdn7YLCM
really interesting talk. Not the conversation i was thinking about starting, but this seemed more important.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
19 Jul 13 UTC
DETROIT - living the American dream
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23369573

The perfect beauty of capitalism and lack of urban and regional planning, Detroit has filed for bankruptcy and they only owe $20bn, the govt owes $17tn but no need to panic, apparently everything is fine..... phew !!
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krellin (80 DX)
19 Jul 13 UTC
Chicago can fall - no town is impervious. So youhave shipping...until "globa warming...ewwww" dries up the Mississipi. So you have some banks...until the entire economy is nationalized and we don't need banks. Railroads? Pshahhh... Airpots can be built anywhere, and when AlQueda finally nukes your precious little landing pad, what then?

Then the revitalized Detroit will send you Coney dogs and pasties and good wishes.
krellin (80 DX)
19 Jul 13 UTC
When I get my brain chips and medical nano-bot implants in 2046, I will live to 1000 years old, silly man!

Stop being to narrow minded.
krellin (80 DX)
19 Jul 13 UTC
Imagine....krellin haunting WebDip in 3013, throwing up posts with a thought and a wink of the eye...
Draugnar (0 DX)
19 Jul 13 UTC
Shouoldn't that be "without a thouhgt"? After all, some of your posts clearly lack what most of us consider "thought".
krellin (80 DX)
19 Jul 13 UTC
All my posts contain considerable thought. sometimes it is a considerable amount of random thoughts that were flung fast and furiously from my fingertips in my favorite fanciful font...but all contain thought. there are oft times when said thoughts are also nuanced and actually need to be *read* to be understood...and that's just asking way too much of people..
Draugnar (0 DX)
19 Jul 13 UTC
Been doing sapho juice again, krells?

It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed,
the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning.
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
krellin (80 DX)
19 Jul 13 UTC
Quite...I'm harnesses my worm, man. Good god...
Draugnar (0 DX)
19 Jul 13 UTC
Put down the Kleenex and quit "harnassing [your] worm."
krellin (80 DX)
19 Jul 13 UTC
sorry Draug I'll just clean up with your undies- please pass them now
Draugnar (0 DX)
20 Jul 13 UTC
http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/19/news/economy/detroit-bankruptcy-order/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Seems a federal judge may not let them reorganize and get out of their pension fund problem as the state constitution prohibits cutting pensions and retirements.
krellin (80 DX)
20 Jul 13 UTC
Nope - it was not a Federal judge. It was a Disctrict Court judge...in Ionia County or some shit (i.e. not even in the County Detroit is in...). IN other words, some pension fund that doesn't want to get whacked (even though the union fucks have been raping the tax payers for decades) went judge shopping to find a judge to issue an injunction.

Thankfully, Michigan has a strong set of Conservative Supremes...thanks in part to some stupid cunt that was running for the Supreme Court whilst running real estate scams and depriving Michigan of it tax dollars (I love when good Liberals tell you to pay taxes while actively avoiding paying them themselves...). Anyway, this bitch is now sitting in Camp Cupcake (perhaps even in Martha Stewarts old room...) and (Republican and Businessman) Governor Rick Sneider got to replace silly lib Supreme with another Conservative.

The bankruptcy issue will fast-track to the Supremes if needed, and Detroit will be in Chapter 9 shortly thereafter.
dipplayer2004 (1110 D)
20 Jul 13 UTC
An outside observer seeing Detroit in its current state of devastation would think the US had lost the city to a foreign invader. In a way, they would be right: the unholy trinity that destroyed Detroit (corrupt politicians, rapacious unions and welfare dependency) is alien to what has made America strong. And if a foreign army had done to Detroit what 60 years of Democratic Party rule has done, we'd charge them with war crimes.
SpeakerToAliens (147 D(S))
20 Jul 13 UTC
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I'm just waiting to hear that Omni Consumer Products (OCP) is taking over the running of the city...
Draugnar (0 DX)
20 Jul 13 UTC
Oh! I volunteer Krellin as Robocop!
Gunfighter06 (224 D)
20 Jul 13 UTC
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Detroit is just the beginning. All of the major Democrat-run cities will start falling like dominoes. When will people figure out that spending like drunken Kennedys will invariably result in failure?
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
20 Jul 13 UTC
If Republicans would start trying to get their foot in the door in city legislatures like Cleveland, St. Louis, Houston, San Antonio, Cincinnati, and other midwestern cities that find themselves in a predominantly right-leaning state instead of ignoring them and focusing on the suburban and rural votes, they might have more luck getting into urban politics. The United States is over 50% urban, as is the world if I remember correctly, and in order for a conservative base to survive, they need to work their way into that mix, and the only way to do that is to try to appeal - even just a little bit - to those damn unionists and those dastardly minimum-wage workers in the inner cities...
krellin (80 DX)
20 Jul 13 UTC
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bo-sxo -- not to be blunt (what? krellin blunt?!?!) but the major cities are most often (if not always) predominantly black -- I defy anyone to come up with a plan by which a Republican can win in a black city. Even though the Democrat party is failing blacks on a continuous basis (and enslaving them to government hand-outs), they still close their eyes and pull the lever for D every time. (Yes, Democrats are failing blacks. Black unemployment and food stamp numbers, etc are *repugnant* under Obama - far worse than for non-black communities...and no, not white, non-black - there is a significant difference).

<stoke fire...pour flammable liquids....run away while the crazies Lefties come out frothing at the mouth when once again the truth offends their delicate, well-defined fantasies...>
krellin (80 DX)
20 Jul 13 UTC
And bo -- it isn't unions that are the problem. "Reagan Democrats" back in the day with the union, blue-collar workers that realized lower taxes benefit *everyone*; that lower taxes allow businesses to grow, and thus create more jobs...

Sadly, it seems this simple truth is now so overshadowed by "vengeance" politics. "See the guy over there...that rat bastard makes more money than you? Wanna get even with teh rat bastard? Raise the m-fers taxes....yeah....that'll knock him down a notch, huh? It'll make you feel better to see that rat bastard knocked down, won't it?!?!"...

Of course, the dirty little secret of vengeance politics is that the morons voting for higher taxes to "get back at the rich" don't ever get better jobs or higher pay out of the deal....usually the opposite...but hey, maybe they'll lower the threshold for food stamps next week and they can feel good about joining the ranks of those on the gov'ment dole...
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
20 Jul 13 UTC
There is a reason that major cities often turn out to have large black populations, krellin. It's not like the millions upon millions of the black population are lying when they talk about being marginalized due to their race whether you see it firsthand or not. You didn't see the genocide in Serbia under Milosevic firsthand either but it sure as hell happened. That stuff does happen, and inner city living is a perfect example of it.

Republicans can win in a black city by offering solutions to racial conflict, offering more funding to the rundown places, and, most importantly in my mind, cleaning up (*with the help of the local community* - that's important) the "violent" neighborhoods, specifically by targeting the illicit heroin and crack trade as well as staffing more police for those areas. They can also help in the long term by assisting in raising the lower and higher education standards throughout the inner cities. Fixing that problem would be no easy task, but it would help crime rates improve and help many families get out of the ghetto life through education and find good employment opportunities like you and I have and will. It would require the Republicans to adjust, but that's the hole they've dug themselves into by ignoring the cities based on your logic (which, I concede, isn't "bad" logic because it holds up historically, but you can't just assume that black communities have some predisposition that prevents them from voting red).

I strongly believe that lower taxes - hell, 1% would be great - would assist. But, unfortunately, due to people like Reagan (and Bush and Obama et al) that pushed forward a plan of attack to combat the rising debt without even accounting for the inevitable backlash from the other side no matter how reasonable their proposal was, we don't have that option. It's just not on the table. Every penny that the government, both local and federal, can get, they'll be taking, even if there's a Ron Paul in office in DC.

I'm not sure what vengeance politics are or what you mean by that. You're simply pointing out the inherent flaw in two-party politics. People think differently, and since there is no one to pick up the moderate role, the only way to keep your party happy is to grow ever more extreme and alienate yourself from the "morons" on the other side instead of working with them to find a middle ground, the only democratic way of doing things with two parties in charge. (Obviously the undemocratic way would be to turn into Hitler, which, albeit a tad bit ugly ... just a tad ... it worked as long as nobody challenged it.)
Invictus (240 D)
20 Jul 13 UTC
^what a thoroughly uninformed post.


For those of you still bullish on this corpse of a city.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/353925/detroit-crosses-rubicon-michael-auslin
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
20 Jul 13 UTC
I have this weird ringing in my ears... maybe it's just me.
krellin (80 DX)
20 Jul 13 UTC
Go I don't care why the cities are black. The point is because they are black they will never vote Republican, because the city blacks seek their government handouts from a Democrat party that has enslaved them as a voting block with the threat of losing their government welfare check, which they keep at just the right level to keep them in poverty perpetually. Democrats - the modrrn day slave masters.

When is the last time a Democrat *really* tried to correct poverty? Never....
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
20 Jul 13 UTC
I think the actions of these Emergency Managers would make Stalinists blush, it seems like the city has resorted to an old Soviet-style of corporate management.
Maybe this is what happens when the free market system fails, you have to start planning things....... it'll never catch on
Invictus (240 D)
20 Jul 13 UTC
The failing of Detroit is exactly the opposite of the failings of a free market.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
20 Jul 13 UTC
Krellin, we can argue all day about when a Democrat really tried to correct poverty. The answer would by Lyndon Johnson. Bill Clinton wanted to look like he was but he doesn't fool anyone, at least not me. Instead, though, we would be much, much, MUCH better off asking who the last President was, regardless of political party, to fight poverty.
Invictus (240 D)
20 Jul 13 UTC
Wonder what krellin thinks about LBJ's War on Poverty...
krellin (80 DX)
21 Jul 13 UTC
When it comes to the Middle East, every good Liberal believes that 10 years of war is enough....time to bring the troops home. I happen to agree with this stance. Our success in the Middle East is questionable at best...but really, we seem to have made no progress in the "war on terror".

After 50+ years and trillions and trillions of dollars, we have more people on food stamps than ever. We have unemployment (reported) at over 7% for how long now? 7, 8 years? The *real* unemployment number, when we take in to account those that have dropped off the roles, those that have simply stopped looking, those who have never been able to find their first job, etc...THAT unemployment number is too sickening to even discuss.

50+ years of a "war on poverty" and the inner cities and hell holes, full of violence and **generational** poverty....As a society, we have trained a class of citizen to live in the system, to work it for the minimum needs, and enslaved them as a voting block....but we do no true thing to get them *out* of poverty.

The "war on poverty" is a joke - it is a 100% failure.

But the prisons of war? Those are the miserable sots living in poverty...the ones Obama said are violent, and have a right to be violent...and yet they are the ones that he...and every government (R or D) before him fails to do anything to help.

bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
21 Jul 13 UTC
There was no progress to be made on the war on terror. There was no fight to begin with.

Re: food stamps... compare 7% unemployment in 1880 versus 7% unemployment now. The number is deceiving; the total is so much higher.

Re: war on poverty ... yes, it's a joke, but it's only a joke because we make it one. We could very, VERY easily get them out of there without putting any extra stress on our system. We're just unwilling. Well, no, the rich guys of Washington are unwilling.

Re: POWs ... that ties well into PTSD, a *huge* problem that's only growing as the gruesome deaths, mostly avoidable, continue to rise.
krellin (80 DX)
21 Jul 13 UTC
@Bo - you are supporting my points. Yes, today's 7% number is fake - real number is much higher

war on poverty -- yes, it's a joke, and always has been a joke. Your assertion that it COULD be won has no evidence to support it. "We could do it...we're just unwilling" This is your answer? Haaa ha ha ha ha....thank you for making my point. The "way on poverty" is a scheme to enslave a voting class -- and it is not intended *at all* to remove people from poverty. That is could be ended is perhaps true....there are all sorts of ways to remove people from poverty - such as removing the incentive to *not* leave poverty (free check in the mail, the public assertions that it isn't you, it's the evil white republicans that are causing your problem not anything you failed to do personally to better yourself...so you are excused from never making anything of yourself...just sit there on your ass, collect your next government paycheck and don't improve yourself....next election cycle we PROMISE we'll put a new spending program in place that will miraculously move you out of poverty...blah blah blah....but remember, you are great just as you are, don't feel guilty about being a sloth, because help is right around the corner...and by corner, I mean election cycle...and hey...your OK, we rich white noble liberals are ok because we realize how pathetic you are on your own without us to save you from yourselves and hey...don't forget to vote in the next election <wink wink>....we good. truth to power. let's have a march, and we'll pick you up for the next vote, OK? Good...no...don't bring any ID....you only need ID for driving, buying booze, getting on a airplane...oh a shitload of stuff...but just come as you are...don't forget to vote...helps on the way!!).
krellin (80 DX)
21 Jul 13 UTC
And by POWs, I was referring to the enslaved voting block of individual in poverty....you *could* almost say that they are suffering from Social PTSD....because they certainly act in irrational ways, indicative of head trauma or some form of insanity...

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