I feel like I'd enjoy this kind of game. My current Ghost Rating is 260.

Glad to have you, ava. I'll PM you with the password.
By the way, no worries about filling this up, if there's interest, I'll start another.

Sounds good. This should give the 'asshole casserole' game some competition :)

I'd like a password if it's not too much trouble!

:)
Certainly Geofram, coming your way.

I would be interested in this game as well.

I'd be interested in something like this as a learning experience, but I'm too new here to have 100 to put in.

This is getting ridiculous with the talk to your eneimes crap.

@TilMletokill - there are no enemies in this game, just other players who want to change your colour to their colour.

I'm the kind of Gentleman who take the weight on his elbows when he makes love, do I qualify?

Maniac: if you don't, it sounds like you've got more interesting games to play. :)

I would qualify except two points:

1. I'm too busy to play a good game.

2. I still don't understand what's so much better about WTA. Can someone explain why all the top-250 should prefer WTA?

Its better... prevents unbeatable alliances from occurring and encourages intelligent play... i.e for the win or the draw... not playing for a survive.

I am interested and think I qualify.
But I would like if the game don´t start on the weekend (I don´t have much time on weekends).

@ dave bishop:

"prevents unbeatable alliances from occuring"

> In the danger of being completely stupid, what would prevent 'unbeatable alliances' from occuring? BTW, do you mean any in-game formation or game-long alliances? Because I think the last one should not exist in diplomacy, either PPSC or WTA.

"encourages intelligent play... i.e for the win or the draw"

> What 'intelligent' play is is perhaps another discussion. My expierence however is that WTA games on this site tend to 'work' in the direction of a draw, for everyone is afraid the chip leader will try to solo. This way it's really hard to diplome your way into a win.

> "not playing for a survive"

At some point this is ofcourse better. Although in PPSC it adds an element of chaos to a game, in which winning is more interesting. Like I said before, in WTA everyone is constantly monitoring everybody's center growth...

I am still waiting for the password.

@Ursa - I like WTA because it promotes shifting alliances during the game. If played with people who are willing to check their ego at the door and accept a stab and work towards a counter stab.

Agree with BoG75. WTA normally makes everybody more prone to change alliance to not let someone win and thus make the game more dinamic.
But if you got good players on it (players that don´t take a stab as a pesonal issue and don´t value only points but the fun of game itself) a PPSC can be as good as WTA.

@Ursa
I meant it prevented game long alliances from occurring as 2 way draws are very dangerous to negotiate and neither country in the alliance will let the other win.
I think preventing these game long alliances is good.
Alliances become more fluid, and the game becomes more interesting and unpredictable

I agree that it is harder to win WTA, and think it is a good thing. You should have to work for a win, and to win should mean to beat everyone else in the game, not just those who aren't your allies.

Hello all,
As it stands, the first game is full, and there 3-5 more players who have expressed interest in joining (the latter includes BoG75 and rdrivera2005). Therefore I will be creating a second game with similar specs.

rdrivera, are you alright playing on weekends, as long as it doesn't start on a weekend? If so, we can schedule the second game to start next Monday.

lifein2x3, why don't you accumulate some more points first. I'm hoping these games will go well, and more of the same style will be played later.

Maniac... I can't really tell if you're asking to join... :)

Ursa, I'm sorry if I wasn't clear. I didn't mean to imply that all top players should prefer WTA, just that those players who join this game should.

Ursa and dave, the relative merits of WTA and PPSC have been discussed at great length, and will continue to be. While I think it's an interesting discussion to have, I would prefer it if it did not hijack this thread. You're more than welcome to start a new thread if you have more to add.

We're still looking for at least a few more players, and if there are more than that, I'd be happy to organize another game. Thank you all for your interest.

Don Corleone

@Don Corleone - Would you make 2nd one Annonymous?

May I ask why?

I find that people use status and past exeprience as tools in a game. When the game is annonymous that is leveling the playing field. I dont mind posting all 7 players in the game on the forum and let people discover who is who but it does add a little bit more to the game IMO

Okay, I'm alright with that. As long as no one has objections, I'll make the second one anonymous.
I'll definitely have to post the names of the players, to avoid giving myself that advantage, as well as to even it between those players who have posted on the forum and those who have PM'd me.

I might want to join if it is not anonymous. But do I qualify? : )

1 more needed

@Don Corleone: I'm getting there, it's just going to take awhile. I just started a game to try to get some friends of mine involved; hopefully I can find enough of them who are interested.

I do like the idea of this game and will be following it. IMO, this is what Diplomacy should be about.

Steven, you'd be at the low end of spectrum in terms of standings, but if you think you fit the description in terms type of player, you're welcome to join.
But you wouldn't join an anonymous?

Glad you agree lifein2x3, I hope to look forward to future games together.

I'm almost disappointed that our game is not anonymous.

Well, if you'd like to switch, StevenC. could have your spot in that game.