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Stubie (1817 D)
16 Jun 15 UTC
Learnt something new about the Dip Rules yesterday...Spaces with 2 Coasts
I may not be the only one but I did not realize that a fleet can support a unit sitting on a coast it cannot access. So for instance, a Fleet in the West Med supported a fleet sitting on the Spanish North Coast. Learn something new every day...
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ssorenn (0 DX)
23 May 15 UTC
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Let's actually talk about something important !!
Go BlackHawks!!!!!!
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
14 Jun 15 UTC
French: Is this sentence correct?
En ce moment, je gagne m'argent avec la conception de sites Web.
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Gunfighter06 (224 D)
12 Jun 15 UTC
So, this happened:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/naacp-chapter-president-rachel-dolezal-accused-falsely-portraying-black/?ftag=YHF4eb9d17

Now I have officially seen everything. Thoughts? Is race a "choice"?
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
12 Jun 15 UTC
That article didn't provide any information at all, but as for your question, I don't think it is particularly uncommon for people to identify as a race different than that that their direct ancestors were.
TrPrado (461 D)
12 Jun 15 UTC
It's slightly different since it's my patrilineal heritage, but I'm very predominantly white while very much stressing to people that I'm Mexican. I take pride in it. The premise is actually not at all new. It's highly similar, if not the same, to choosing one's nation. This has been recognized since the early twentieth century. The nation is a psychological construct of identity. Usually, this comes out of heritage, such as in my own case, no matter how distant, but there are cases like this as well. This should be expected in a country with such large differences in "nations" or races as the average person would think of it. In sum, this isn't unheard of.
Gunfighter06 (224 D)
12 Jun 15 UTC
So, you're saying it's okay for people to go put on blackface and misrepresent themselves, as long as they *feel* like they're black?
TrPrado (461 D)
12 Jun 15 UTC
I'm saying that it isn't a misrepresentation of that is their own identity.
TrPrado (461 D)
12 Jun 15 UTC
if*
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
12 Jun 15 UTC
Race is defined by physical characteristics, not one's philosophy, actions, or anything else, but it is also a defined social construct that at one point was created by men, so it doesn't particularly bother me that some people choose to identify in such a way that doesn't match societal expectations. Race is just a matter of conformity and a way to segregate anyway.
JamesYanik (548 D)
12 Jun 15 UTC
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Race should not be a choice damnit. this is frickin' ridiculous
ssorenn (0 DX)
12 Jun 15 UTC
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She wants to identify wi the African American race, so fucking what....it's a free country.
TrPrado (461 D)
12 Jun 15 UTC
On a parallel point and question:
Do you think it's okay for someone born and raised in Scotland or Zimbabwe to "misrepresent" themselves (quotations because I don't agree with that word choice) by touting around an American flag because they feel like they're American?
Durga (3609 D)
12 Jun 15 UTC
People should not be forced into categories that are socially constructed and work to raise certain people up and bring certain people down.
y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
12 Jun 15 UTC
Most people understand race as something immutable about ourselves, just like gender. Why does it have to be immutable though? What's so morally egregious about not accepting or wanting a physical attribute about yourself and striving to change it?
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
12 Jun 15 UTC
Looks like the colored her skin and hair. Meets the criteria for NAACP right?
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
12 Jun 15 UTC
*she colored...
y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
12 Jun 15 UTC
Reading into this particular case a bit more, it definitely seems like this person implied a lot of other false narratives to build the case that she was born this way, and considering she's trying to represent an organization dealing with the issues that come with being born a person of color, that's pretty damning of her.
Tolstoy (1962 D)
12 Jun 15 UTC
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"She wants to identify wi the African American race, so fucking what....it's a free country."

My question is, does this mean she has forfeited her White Privilege? Is she now more likely to get stopped and harassed by the police, less likely to get approved for a home loan, get called the "N word" in public, etc.? If not, she's clearly cheating and has a manifestly unfair advantage in life over the cisracial that needs to be corrected with some disfirmitive action.
y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
12 Jun 15 UTC
So it's unfair to be black and not be harrassed?
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
12 Jun 15 UTC
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Tolstoy, those are not characteristics of being black.
krellin (80 DX)
12 Jun 15 UTC
@gunfighter - she is just copying what I recently confessed to..
y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
12 Jun 15 UTC
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she actually got the negroplasty though
Yoyoyozo (65 D)
12 Jun 15 UTC
No... just no...

Firstly I'd just like to... no. No. No no no no.

Just no.
krellin (80 DX)
12 Jun 15 UTC
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Who cars what color she is, I'd that's how she self- identifies. The hypocrisy on this is AWESOME. If she decided she self-identified as a man and lived that way most of her critics would be praising her.

So what is it? Do feeling of self-identification that contradict you're genetic true self have meaning or not?!?

Further.... WAS she or was she not doing a good job with the NCAAP? If she was, what difference does it make what color she is?
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
12 Jun 15 UTC
I don't think the discussion is centered around what she has done for the NAACP. It's people suggesting that a race is a biological thing, not a social construction that can be altered with, like most social constructions, time.
JamesYanik (548 D)
12 Jun 15 UTC
I purely consider it biological, but I also don't consider it important either
Yoyoyozo (65 D)
12 Jun 15 UTC
Krellin, I dont care whether or she runs NAACP. If someone white (which it appears to be so) was running NAACP and doing a good, I don't care. The problem is that you don't self identify race. It's not psychological. It's not behavioral. It is a purely predetermined, genetic, physical attribute. It's like gender and sex. Race is like sex but unfortunately there is no "gender equivalent" to race.
ssorenn (0 DX)
12 Jun 15 UTC
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Tell that to Bruce-catlyn or whatever

Again who cares, if the person is doing right by her job.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
12 Jun 15 UTC
Some religions are analogous to a race or ethnicity, but Yoyo, I do not see why she can't identify as black. Those things you listed are predetermined too, but they are changeable once someone has reached a competent point in their life when they understand the parameters of the characteristics they were assigned at birth and whether or not they fit their true self or not. How is race somehow different?
y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
12 Jun 15 UTC
Why would you care whether people identify with what they look like at birth or not? And if you don't care, why would you care about someone changing their outward appearance to match their identity?
TrPrado (461 D)
12 Jun 15 UTC
I feel like the huge difference in this particular case, where she really overstepped her bounds, is when she likely falsified at least one (specifically the most recent) hate crime (a death threat found in the NAACP PO box), and by far when she lied about her family and parentage. That's too far.
Yoyoyozo (65 D)
12 Jun 15 UTC
Do you guys know what cultural approriation is? That is what you are defending.
y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
12 Jun 15 UTC
Agreed TrPrado, this particular woman in this particular case falsified her past to give a wrong account of who she is and where she comes from, which is relevant for her position. If she had come clean and acknowledged from a young age she was white and wanted to change that, it would be a different story, but I also don't see how being truthful about that could have landed her the role she has in the NAACP. Just like Caitlyn Jenner won't be leading any women's rights rallies anytime soon.

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y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
27 May 15 UTC
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Mafia IX Sign Up Thread
Details inside
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Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
14 Jun 15 UTC
Why are Libtards and Conservaderps so easy to Manipulate and Control?
http://www.alternet.org/culture/why-are-americans-so-easy-manipulate-and-control
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Sh@dow (3512 D)
05 Jan 15 UTC
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Site Feature Additions
The mods have often invited suggestions for feature changes and I wanted to check if there is anything in the works for the following:
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
11 Jun 15 UTC
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webDiplomacy usage statistics
See inside
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Boromacat (100 DX)
14 Jun 15 UTC
Any good press you feel the need to share?
If anyone sees EvanInc, give him hell for me please.
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Yaleunc (11052 D(B))
11 Jun 15 UTC
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Split's Top 7 Active Gunboaters Series Results for games 19-22
Title a bit of a misnomer for these 4 games as one of the 7 players was not particularly experienced at gunboat.
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thomas dullan (422 D)
09 Jun 15 UTC
The Literary Circle: Under Milk Wood: Dylan Thomas (ISBN: 9781780227245)
As my first discussion subject, I have chosen Dylan Thomas's "Under Milk Wood", a semi-comic dream-like short story, part narrative poem, part "play for voices".
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semck83 (229 D(B))
03 Jun 15 UTC
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The next step: transabled
So, what do people think about this?

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/becoming-disabled-by-choice-not-chance-transabled-people-feel-like-impostors-in-their-fully-working-bodies
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Frost_Faze (102 D)
13 Jun 15 UTC
Need a Peru player
Hey Diplomacy People!

Just started a new game, and the Peru player seems to be inactive. So just come on and hop in.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=162716&msgCountryID=5
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krellin (80 DX)
09 Jun 15 UTC
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Krellins Konsulting
It's been so long since I have passed my wisdom upon this wretched lot. And...having so recently been castigated as a *bad bad* boy....I thought perhaps that I should endeavor to pass my lessons-learned upon the woefully inadequate intellectual buffoons that truly need my help. So please...

The Doctor's Office is Open. "Dear Dr. krellin....
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
11 Jun 15 UTC
Research shows chimp tool use...
... Appears gender biased.

Not that this tells us much about humans, but the conclusion of 'maybe human tool use developed in the same way' is still interesting.
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ERAUfan97 (549 D)
11 Jun 15 UTC
I had to put my dog down today
:'( :'( :'( :'(
I loved coming home to that dog. She was the best dog in the world. Always cheered me up after a bad day.

Death is a cruel cruel thing. Let's all take this time to remember our past animals and the happiness they provided us
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wjessop (100 DX)
11 Jun 15 UTC
Live replacement needed
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=162751
Italy, good position.
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ERAUfan97 (549 D)
10 Jun 15 UTC
I'm back snitches!
It's been a whole year. What I miss?
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Hamilton Brian (811 D(B))
11 Jun 15 UTC
The Beer Series Table
This is where standings will be submitted during this anonymous series.
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VashtaNeurotic (2394 D)
10 Jun 15 UTC
Who Here Plays Hearthstone?
I'm bored again and just wanted to know who here are the site also plays "Wizard Poker"? If so, what is your favorite card? class? deck? streamer? Do pay to lose/win or use a free account? More importantly, what do you think of the new features?
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Eigil (100 D)
11 Jun 15 UTC
Help: Can't join any games
Hi Guys, I'm new to webdip, just made an account, haven;t played any games, and it seems I can;t join any - Everything in the joinable tab is spectate only - halp pls?
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Ienpw_III (117 D)
07 Jun 15 UTC
Any interest in a 100 D game?
I'm thinking 3 or 4 day phases to allow for some good negotiating.
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thomas dullan (422 D)
09 Jun 15 UTC
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The Literary Circle (A Book Club)
In
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?viewthread=1264575#1264575
abgemacht suggested the establishment of a book club. Great idea!
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ILN (100 D)
10 Jun 15 UTC
Heartwarming Documentary
http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/witness/2015/05/unwasted-poland-150510113808546.html
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wjessop (100 DX)
09 Jun 15 UTC
GoT S5 E10 'Mother's Mercy'
What do you think the main surprises will be?
For the Watch, presumably? Walk of Penance, obviously. Lady SH, not impossibly?
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GreGwar (350 D)
10 Jun 15 UTC
invalid order ?
I'm trying to support a move from york to Belgium, channel is convoying.
I get a message saying thats invalid .
I tried with Channel supporting the convoy york-bel by north sea and it is valid.
How comes ?
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Franz Ferdinand III (188 D)
10 Jun 15 UTC
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Live world game!!!!!
gameID=162624
Please join!!!!!
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peterwiggin (15158 D)
10 Jun 15 UTC
Replacement Russia needed
A member has requested that we ask for a replacement Russia in this game:
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=162324
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Live Anc Med
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Cricket Master (100 DX)
09 Jun 15 UTC
please join
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=162581
We need players who will play
Password is cobra
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