Could not agree more.

If you listen to the whole speech she talks about equality for all. If feminism is about equality for women then by it's nature it means the same for men (or else how could anybody be equal). Her speech was about hopes for the future not about beating men down, and the responses you've listed help show the sort of attitude she's fighting against (i.e. "Feminism is a growing cancer").

Are people incapable or unwilling to look objectively at somebody elses view when it conflicts with theirs.

It's the "Men's Rights" people that are a growing cancer...

Any time there's economic trouble, this sort of thing happens, unemployed discontents turn to groups, and the groups that recruit best are the ones that appeal to the worst of in people. That Elliot Rodger was one of them...they're a leading group standing against feminism and shaming women...

I really do have serious fears about my friends whenever something like this happens, this incident or Rodger's targeting women etc., etc....most of my friends ARE women...one of them gave birth to a baby girl 6 months ago...

I wonder what kind of generation she'll inherit in 25 years time. *sigh*

These times do seem to bring out the worst in people.

It's a shame that important issues that affect us as a race have to suffer.

relevant for those who think feminism equals hating men, here's a short test to determine if you're a feminist.

http://areyouafeminist.com/

Nice one Kasimax :)

I think people confuse feminism and militant feminism. Militant feminism, like militant anything, be it Islam, Christianity, or anything else, is generally bad. Militant feminism is what most people think of as bad in the feminist movement. Feminism as equal treatment of men and women is a good thing.

It's such a shame that 'gender equalitist' is not so catchy....

Obi, not to throw you off your pedestal, but 4chan people don't care, all they want to do is piss you off. Seriously, that is the entire point of 4chan.

Gender egalitarian ain't so bad though. And eagles are cool.

Fair point bo - I guess the overarching question is WHY though - what makes somebody so determined to annoy off everybody else. I imagine (given the forum's history) that there are some strong opinions out there on this.

Can we finally just accept that there are legitimate, obvious historical reasons that the anti-sexism movement is called "feminism" and stop dividing the side of humaneness unnecessarily? The chauvinists are quibbling about what to call themselves, they just go on abusing.

Aren't quibbling*

http://areyouafeminist.com/

Poorly designed. I failed on the first question, "Do you think all people are equal?" No, of course not. Some are smarter, some are stronger, some have other gifts. Do I think all people have equal rights? Yes. But that isn't what it asked.

While I'm a feminist myself, when people say "this would never happen to a guy" about internet abuse, they never visited WebDip.

Does me being stronger than you make us actually unequal? Or does it just mean we have different attributes. Do you think it is impossible to me different as equal at the same time?also, do you not make a distinction between physical equality and moral equality?

It's just worded too broadly. "Equally valuable", "morally equal", "possessing equal rights" would all have been better. I know I am quibbling, but words matter.

Not really, but someone else can argue with you today.

@obiwan,

You don't think it's somewhat shameful to keep company with women? Are women your intellectual equals? That is laughable. Do women *get* you? Do you *relate* to women better than to your fellow men?

Obi, the whole situation is worse than your comments suggest. Part of this is about 4chan and other pits of the internet reflecting the sort of chauvinistic attitude and behavior, but it's hardly restricted to that. The problems can be seen in various places, and personally, I think that focusing on the extremes like 4chan is a mistake, and that the widespread hostility is more of an issue.

That said, people that exploit these sorts of situations to push agendas like this Rantic group (which I've seen in the past) are at least as bad. This whole thing wasn't even instigated by the "problem" people or those with the supposed bias, but by a group trying to forward their own agenda. It's an artificial situation, and while that certainly doesn't excuse bigotry, I don't think THIS is the hill to die on.

"Users on the 4chan message board took credit for creating the site, which featured the 4chan logo. However, it now appears that the threat site was created by a group calling themselves "Rantic marketing," which is apparently a fake company run by an internet collective that has been behind several other false countdown sites in the past. Rantic said that it is trying to shut down #4chan. "

Al, your point of view is so fucked up that all I can hope is that something terrible happens to you. You are literally an EVIL, MISOGYNISTIC BIGOT

http://reason.com/blog/2014/09/24/emma-watson-photo-leak-was-hoax

@lando: you've been on the site five times longer than me and still didn't realize that al does nothing but trolling? really?

Honestly, I believe that he has this POV on the world and it is sickening.

no he hasn't. calm down.

Al has a very unique brand of dry, sarcastic wit.

Literally, he is probably the only person more intolerable on this web forum than bo_sox.

To me, Al's post was dripping with sarcasm, but that's just how I read it.

As for Emma, I thought her speech to the UN was brilliant. Maybe I just like to listen to her talk though, haha.

In all seriousness, I don't think anyone should take what is said on 4chan seriously. Most of those people are internet trolls, and most trolls are sadists and psychotics. That enough should discredit their faux-chauvinism.

Also, it appears as though this whole thing was just an attempt by trolls to shut down 4chan.

http://mashable.com/2014/09/24/emma-watson-nude-leak-viral-marketing/

Calm down sweet baby Lando, the sun will rise tomorrow despite your tears.