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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
14 Aug 11 UTC
Need 1 more to join
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=65550
password: tasty
We've got a pretty dedicated lot and we're looking for 1 more. 101 D WTA, 2-day phases, non anon, classic game.
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fortknox (2059 D)
09 Aug 11 UTC
Paused Games...
OK, the mod email is filled with requests to unpause games. Here are some pointers to help us out in getting those games unpaused.
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diplomancer83 (123 D)
12 Aug 11 UTC
If you are playing for points... make sure its 101 or greater.
Too many Multis again... I'm not going to name names or point fingers since we can't but it's getting to the point where I am playing half the time with multis and losing an assload of points. They are getting even more clever and using a new "slave" account every few games. Watch out fellow fair players.
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krellin (80 DX)
09 Aug 11 UTC
CONSERVATIVE MAN
Funny....the littel boy calls himself a "man",and yet so very often his posts are whiny, bitchy, little-boy posts asking for basic relationship advice. Since he knows mostly nothing about anything....should he have to change his name?


He is a dumbfuck, both poltiically and socially. How pathetic.....but I'm sure his Mommy is proud of him....<sigh...> (I hear she has a *firm grip* Isn't that right, eh? ConservativeMan???
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damian (675 D)
12 Aug 11 UTC
The Compliment Thread
Given all the rage against various users, and bile that some members of the site like to throw around I thought it might be nice to have a thread were we can celebrate the good side of our community.

Which is to say pay the person above you a compliment.
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Ges (292 D)
13 Aug 11 UTC
One Year as a WebDip Player
I just realized that I have been a member of the site for a little over a year.
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joey1 (198 D)
12 Aug 11 UTC
Civil Discourse
I have always enjpyed civil discourse, where I can have a battle of philosophy, theology and history with someone while maintaining civil. With that in mind, I am thinking of going to a local mosque and asking if there is someone that would participate in an interfaith discussion. Are there others who enjoy this type of thing, or am I weird in this.
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Conservative Man (100 D)
13 Aug 11 UTC
Can anyone critique my essay?
This is an essay for my English summer assignment. Note that I'm a sophomore in high school, so don't expect it to sound like an English major wrote it. Also, it's about a mentor of mine, dead or alive. I chose Jesus, and I hope that the atheists on here are unbiased enough to give a good review.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
11 Aug 11 UTC
Thank you for your patience
I currently don't have mod status, and most of the mods are on vacations, so fortknox has been handling all the unpause requests himself.

Thank you for your patience while we sort this out. Remember, you can upause games yourself by all voting to Unpause ingame.
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
10 Aug 11 UTC
Can we program a semi-anon variant to decrease likelihood of multi and meta cheaters?
The variant will show who's playing but not what country he or she is playing. Then the players are able to spot metagamers and possibly multi cheaters right away.
Please give feedback on idea and feasibility.
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Gunfighter06 (224 D)
07 Aug 11 UTC
Best Actors and Actresses
Who do you think the best actor/actress of all time is? Feel free to use good movies as examples.
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TiresiasBC (388 D)
11 Aug 11 UTC
Thank You, Geofram!
I just wanted to publicly recognize Geofram for sitting for me for an extended period of time in which I had no time to properly pursue my Diplomacy games. He stepped up when I didn't have anyone to ask and ensured my opponents had an opponent instead of a CD.

Why post this in the forum? He deserves the kudos, and anyone who thinks more highly of him for this is icing on the cake.
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Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
12 Aug 11 UTC
Where is Obama's Economic Plan?
President Obama gave a speech where he said he wanted Congress to "...start passing some bills to help our economy right now.”
What might those be Mr. President?
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SergeantCitrus (257 D)
11 Aug 11 UTC
Noober question
So ... what's the point of Gunboat?

I thought the draw of Diplomacy was supposed to be the wheeling, dealing and cajoling. I don't understand the appeal of taking away messaging.
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☺ (1304 D)
12 Aug 11 UTC
The adjudication of...
I tested this on jDip and with my diplomacy intuition, but I just want to make sure I'm right...
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kestasjk (99 DMod(P))
12 Aug 11 UTC
Downtime info
The database was down for ~1 hour 30 minutes. I've added 3 hours to games to compensate.
The downtime was due to an automatic mysql update script but no script to restart the mysql service, which I've now added in. Apologies for the inconvenience
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fortknox (2059 D)
12 Aug 11 UTC
Diplomacy Corollary to Godwin's Law
"In the web diplomacy forum, as a discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison or answer involving the Ankaran Cresent variant approaches 1."

(see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law)
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Geofram (130 D(B))
12 Aug 11 UTC
These damn 500 errors...
are no where to be found. I know this is likely to have been said before, but here's a big thank you to all that donated and to Kestas for the quick and seamless server transition.
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
10 Aug 11 UTC
Friendly competition with Facebook people: 7 needed
Looking for seven of the top 100 people from this site to go play two games with seven of the top 100 people from facebook.
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Conservative Man (100 D)
11 Aug 11 UTC
Just an idea I had
Everybody post the lyrics to your favorite songs. I'll post mine. Oh, and also, guess what the lyrics to my favorite song are about.
This is actually 5 songs, but they all form a saga. It’s by Dream Theater. The subsections with roman numerals are movements. Oh, and I understand if you don’t want to read through all the lyrics, but it would be nice if you could at least skim through them (though I’d like you to actually read them if you have the time).


1. “The Glass Prison”
I. Reflection
Cunning, Baffling, Powerful
Been beaten to a pulp
Vigorous, Irresistable
Sick and tired and laid low
Dominating, Invincible
Black-out, loss of control
Overwhelming, Unquenchable
I'm powerless, have to let go

I can't escape it
It leaves me frail and worn
Can no longer take it
Senses tattered and torn

Hopeless surrender
Obsession's got me beat
Losing the will to live
Admitting complete defeat

Fatal Descent
Spinning around
I've gone too far
To turn back round

Desperate attempt
Stop the progression
At any length
Lift this obsession

Crawling to my glass prison
A place where no one knows
My secret lonely world begins

So much safer here
A place where I can go
To forget about my daily sins

Life here in my glass prison
A place I once called home
Fall in nocturnal bliss again

Chasing a long lost friend
I no longer can control
Just waiting for this hopelessness to end

II. RESTORATION

Run - fast from the wreckage of the past
A shattered glass prison wall behind me
Fight - past walking through the ashes
A distant oasis before me

Cry - desperate crawling on my knees
Begging God to please stop the insanity
Help me - I'm trying to believe
Stop wallowing in my self pity

"We've been waiting for you my friend
The writing's been on the wall
All it takes is a little faith
You know you're the same as us all"

Help me - I can't break out this prison all alone
Save me - I'm drowning and I'm hopeless on my own
Heal me - I can't restore my sanity alone

Enter the door
Desperate
Fighting no more
Help me restore
To my sanity
At this temple of hope

I need to learn
Teach me how
Sorrow to burn
Help me return
To humanity
I'll be fearless and thorough
To enter this temple of hope

Believe
Transcend the pain
Living the life
Humility
Opened my eyes
This new odyssey
Of rigorous honesty

Serenity
That I never knew
Soundness of mind
Helped me to find
Courage to change
All the things that I can

"We'll help you perform this miracle
But you must set your past free
You dug the hole, but you can't bury your soul
Open your mind and you'll see"

Help me - I can't break out this prison all alone
Save me - I'm drowning and I'm hopeless on my own
Heal me - I can't restore my sanity alone


III. REVELATION

Way off in the distance I saw a door
I tried to open
I tried forcing with all of my will but still
The door wouldn't open

Unable to trust in my faith
I turned and walked away
I looked around, felt a chill in the air
Took my will and turned it over

The glass prison which once held me is gone
A long lost fortress
Armed only with liberty
And the key of my willingness

Fell down on my knees and prayed
"Thy will be done"
I turned around, saw a light shining through
The door was wide open

2. “This Dying Soul”
IV. Reflections of Reality (Revisited)

Hello, Mirror - so glad to see you my friend, it's been a while
Searching, Fearless - where do I begin to heal this wound of self-denial

Face yourself man!
Brace yourself and trace your hell back

You've been blinded, living lie a one way cold existence all the while
Now it's time to stare the problem right between the eyes you long lost child

I wanna feel your body breaking
Wanna feel your body breaking and shaking and left in the cold
I want to heal your conscience making a change o fix this dying soul

Born into this world a broken home
Surrounded by love yet all alone
Forced into a life that's split in two
A mother and a father both pulling you

Then you had to deal with loss and death
Everybody thinking they know best
Coping with this sh_t at such an age
Can only fill a kid with pain and rage

Family disease pumped through your blood
Never had the chance you thought you could
Running all the while with no escape
Turning all that pain in to blame and hate

Living on your own by twenty one
Not a single care and having fun
Consuming all the life in front of you
Burning out the fuse and smoking the residue

Possessive obsessions selfish childish games
Vengeful resentments
Passing all the blame
Living out a life of decadence
Acing without thought of consequence
Spreading all your lies from coast to coast
While spitting on the ones that matter most

Running power mad with no control
Fighting for the credit they once stole
No one can ever tell you what to do
Ruling other's lives while the can't stand the thought of you

A living reflection seen from miles away
A hopeless affliction having run astray

I wanna feel your body breaking
Wanna feel your body breaking and shaking and left in the cold
I want to heal your conscience making a change o fix this dying soul

Now that you can see all you have done
It's time to take that step into the kingdom
All your sins will only make you strong
And help you break right through the prison wall

V. Release

Come to me my friend (Listen to me)
I'll help this torture end (Help to set me free)
Let your ego go (I can't carry this load)
You can't go through this alone (I feel so hopeless and exposed)
You'll find your peace of mind (Give me some direction)
You can no longer hide (Break out of this isolation)
Let humility (Openness, honesty)
And become what you can be (A healing tranquility)

Help me
Save me
Heal me
I can't break out of this prison all alone

These tormenting ghosts of yesterday
Will vanish when exposed
You can't hold onto your secrets
They'll only send you back alone

Your fearless admissions
Will help expel your destructive obsessions
With my help I know you can
Be at one with God and man

Hear me
Believe me
Take me
I'm ready to break right through this prison wall

3. “The Root of All Evil”
VI. Ready

Proud enough for you to call me arrogant
Greedy enough to be labeled a thief
Angry enough for me to go and hurt a man
Cruel enough for me to feel no grief

Never could have just a part of it
I always need more to get by
Getting right down to the heart of it
The root of all evil has been running my whole life

Dirty enough for me to lust
Leaving nothing left to trust
Jealous enough to still feel envious
Lazy enough to sleep all day
And let my life just waste away
Selfish enough to make you wait for me

Drvien blindly by our sins
Misled so easily
Entirely ready to leave it behind
I'm begging to break free

Take all of me
The desires that keep burning deep inside
Cast them all away
And help to give me strength to face another day
I am ready
Help me be what I can be


VII. Remove

Self-centered fear has got a hold of me
Clutching my throat
Self righteous anger running all through me
Ready to explode

Procrastination paralyzing me
Wanting me dead
These obsessions that keep haunting me
Won't leave my head

Help to do for me what I can't do myself
Take this fear and pain
I can't break out of this prison all alone
Help me break these chains

Humility now my only hope
Won't you take all of me
Heal this dying soul

I can feel my body breaking
I can feel my body breaking
I'm ready to let it all go
I can feel my body shaking
Right down to the foundation
The root of it all

Take all of me
And the drive that keep burning deep inside
Cast it all away
And help to give me strength to face another day
I am ready
Help me be what I can be
I am ready
Come to me
Take me away

4. “Repentance”
VIII Regret
Hello, mirror
So glad to see you my friend
It's been a while

Staring at the empty page before me
All the years of wreckage running through my head
Patterns of my life I thought adorned me
Revealing hurtful shame and deep lament

Overwhelming sorrow now absorbs me
As the pen begins to trace my darkest past
Signs throughout my life
that should have warned me
Of all the wrongs I've done for which I must repent

I once thought it better to regret
Things that I have done than I haven't
Sometimes you've got to be wrong
And learn the hard way
And sometimes you've got to be strong
When you think it's too late

Staring at the finished page before me
All the damage now so clear and evident
Thinking about the dreaded task in store for me
A pit of fear at the thought of my amends

Hoping that the step will help restore me
To face my past and ask for forgiveness
Cleaning up my dirty side of this unswept street
Could this be the beginning of the end?

I once thought it better to regret
Things that I have done than haven't
Sometimes you've got to be wrong
And learn the hard way
And just when you're through hanging on
You're saved.

IX. Restitution
(spoken)
If we are painstaking about this phase of our development, we will be amazed before we are half way through.
We are going to know a new freedom and a new happiness.
We will not regret the past nor wish to shut the door on it.
We will comprehend the word serenity and we will know peace.
No matter how far down the scale we have gone, we will see how our experience can benefit others.
That feeling of uselessness and self pity will disappear.
We will lose interest in selfish things and gain interest in our fellows.
Self-seeking will slip away.
Our whole attitude and outlook upon life will change.
Fear of people and of economic insecurity will leave us.
We will intuitively know how to handle situations which used to baffle us.
We will suddenly realize that God is doing for us what we could not do for ourselves.
Are these extravagant promises? We think not. They are being fulfilled among us—sometimes quickly, sometimes slowly. They will always materialize if we work for them.

5. “The Shattered Fortress”
X. Restraint
Freedom--calls my name
Serenity--keeps me sane
Happineses--it dulls the pain

Honest--to see my place
Open--to other ways
Willingness--to understand

Justice--but do not judge
Courtesy--for others' flaws
Kindness--it's not that hard

Self-restraint--of toungue and pen
Inventory--my daily friend
Analysis--let down your guard

Look in the mirror
What do you see?
The shattered fortress
That once bound me

Fateful ascent
Through darkest fires
I've found the path
To take me higher

You're smart enough for me to trust go live your life now
Just keep these steps in your life and you'll know how
If you're not sure, ask yourself
"Have I done to them
As I would have them do to me?"

Look in the mirror
What's that you see?
The shattered fortress
Fly now be free

Fateful ascent
Through darkest fires
I've found the path
To take me higher

I once thought it better to be right
But now I have finally seen the light
Sometimes you've got to be wrong
And learn from mistakes
I live with serenity now
Not self-righteous hate
XI. Receive

Now that you can see all you have done
It's time to take that step into the kingdom
All your sins will help to make you strong
And help you break right through the prison wall

Keep all of me
The desires that once burned me deep inside
Help me live today
And help to give me grace
To carry out your way

I am ready
Help me be all I can be
I am ready
Help guide me and keep me free

XII. Responsible

I am responsible
When anyone, anywhere
Reaches out for help
I want my hand to be there

I am responsible
When anyone, anywhere
Reaches out for help
I want my hand to be there



Draugnar (0 DX)
11 Aug 11 UTC
Staind - The Corner

It sheltered me from nothing but the weather
I called it home for a moment of my life
This place I see just doesn't look familiar
I wonder if it looks the same inside

So there's the corner that I sat on
The road I walked home in the rain
And there's the star I used to wish on
It all just seems like yesterday

Days go by
Nothing's getting clearer
Can't change my mind
My troubles are the same
Faces change
The names they are familiar
And the streets I see
Will stand the test of time

So there's the corner that I sat on
The road I walked home in the rain
And there's the star I used to wish on
It all just seems like yesterday

And those stars
Stars still shine
Shine down through the rain

And there's the corner that I sat on
The road I walked home in the rain
And there's the star I used to wish on
It all just seems like yesterday

And I stare out this dirty window
As this world goes slowly by
And somewhere out there is the future
That I once thought had passed me by

Sheltered me from nothing but the weather

Draugnar (0 DX)
11 Aug 11 UTC
Staind - Pardon Me

I'm one step
From a breakdown
Two steps from
Being saved
Just try to
See this through
I'm three steps
From this nightmare
And four steps
From the door
The rest is
Up to you

Pardon me while I
Just turn my back
And walk away
Pardon me if I
Can't listen
To the things
You say
Pardon me if I
Can't fake it
While you still believe
Pardon me

I'm one step
From forgiveness
And two steps
From my grave
We're all just
Passing through
Three steps
From redemption
Four from the
Devil's door
On a path
That leads to you

Pardon me while I
Just turn my back
And walk away
Pardon me if I
Can't listen
To the things
You say
Pardon me if I
Can't fake this
While you still believe
Pardon me

Pardon me while I
Just turn my back
And walk away
Pardon me if I
Can't listen
To the things
You say
Pardon me if I
Can't fake it
While you still believe
Pardon me

I'm two steps
From salvation
But i'm only
Taking one
Pardon me

abgemacht (1076 D(G))
11 Aug 11 UTC
House of the Rising Sun--The Animals

There is a house in New Orleans
They call the Rising Sun
And it's been the ruin of many a poor boy
And God I know I'm one

My mother was a tailor
She sewed my new bluejeans
My father was a gamblin' man
Down in New Orleans

Now the only thing a gambler needs
Is a suitcase and trunk
And the only time he's satisfied
Is when he's on a drunk

------ organ solo ------

Oh mother tell your children
Not to do what I have done
Spend your lives in sin and misery
In the House of the Rising Sun

Well, I got one foot on the platform
The other foot on the train
I'm goin' back to New Orleans
To wear that ball and chain

Well, there is a house in New Orleans
They call the Rising Sun
And it's been the ruin of many a poor boy
And God I know I'm one
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
11 Aug 11 UTC
Jesus, CM, you're like the obi of lyrics....
I'll take that as a compliment ;)
All 5 songs put together total almost 57 minutes in length, by the way.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
11 Aug 11 UTC
57 minutes?

In that case, I won't feel bad posting 2 more
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
11 Aug 11 UTC
Hotel California--The Eagles


On a dark desert highway, cool wind in my hair
Warm smell of colitas, rising up through the air
Up ahead in the distance, I saw a shimmering light
My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim
I had to stop for the night
There she stood in the doorway;
I heard the mission bell
And I was thinking to myself,
’this could be heaven or this could be hell’
Then she lit up a candle and she showed me the way
There were voices down the corridor,
I thought I heard them say...

Welcome to the hotel california
Such a lovely place
Such a lovely face
Plenty of room at the hotel california
Any time of year, you can find it here

Her mind is tiffany-twisted, she got the mercedes bends
She got a lot of pretty, pretty boys, that she calls friends
How they dance in the courtyard, sweet summer sweat.
Some dance to remember, some dance to forget

So I called up the captain,
’please bring me my wine’
He said, ’we haven’t had that spirit here since nineteen sixty nine’
And still those voices are calling from far away,
Wake you up in the middle of the night
Just to hear them say...

Welcome to the hotel california
Such a lovely place
Such a lovely face
They livin’ it up at the hotel california
What a nice surprise, bring your alibis

Mirrors on the ceiling,
The pink champagne on ice
And she said ’we are all just prisoners here, of our own device’
And in the master’s chambers,
They gathered for the feast
The stab it with their steely knives,
But they just can’t kill the beast

Last thing I remember, I was
Running for the door
I had to find the passage back
To the place I was before
’relax,’ said the night man,
We are programmed to receive.
You can checkout any time you like,
But you can never leave!
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
11 Aug 11 UTC
The Devil went down to Georgia--Charlie Daniels Band

The devil went down to Georgia, he was looking for a soul to steal.
He was in a bind 'cos he was way behind: he was willin' to make a deal.
When he came across this young man sawin' on a fiddle and playin' it hot.
And the devil jumped upon a hickory stump and said: "Boy let me tell you what:
"I bet you didn't know it, but I'm a fiddle player too.
"And if you'd care to take a dare, I'll make a bet with you.
"Now you play a pretty good fiddle, boy, but give the devil his due:
"I bet a fiddle of gold against your soul, 'cos I think I'm better than you."
The boy said: "My name's Johnny and it might be a sin,
"But I'll take your bet, your gonna regret, 'cos I'm the best that's ever been."

Johnny you rosin up your bow and play your fiddle hard.
'Cos hells broke loose in Georgia and the devil deals the cards.
And if you win you get this shiny fiddle made of gold.
But if you lose, the devil gets your soul.

The devil opened up his case and he said: "I'll start this show."
And fire flew from his fingertips as he rosined up his bow.
And he pulled the bow across his strings and it made an evil hiss.
Then a band of demons joined in and it sounded something like this.
When the devil finished, Johnny said: "Well you're pretty good ol' son.
"But sit down in that chair, right there, and let me show you how its done."

Fire on the mountain, run boys, run.
The devil's in the house of the risin' sun.
Chicken in the bread pan, pickin' out dough.
"Granny, does your dog bite?"
"No, child, no."

The devil bowed his head because he knew that he'd been beat.
He laid that golden fiddle on the ground at Johnny's feet.
Johnny said: "Devil just come on back if you ever want to try again.
"I told you once, you son of a gun, I'm the best that's ever been."

And he played fire on the mountain, run boys, run.
The devil's in the house of the risin' sun.
Chicken in the bread pan, now they're pickin' out dough.
"Granny, will your dog bite?"
"No, child, no."
A Change of Seasons - Dream Theater (This song is 23 minutes long :P And again, the roman numerals are movements)

[I. The Crimson Sunrise]

[Instrumental]

[II. Innocence]

I remember a time
My frail, virgin mind
Watched the crimson sunrise
Imagined what it might find
Life was filled with wonder
I felt the warm wind blow
I must explore the boundaries
Transcend the depth of winter's snow

Innocence caressing me
I never felt so young before
There was so much life in me
Still I longed to search for more

But those days are gone now
Changed like a leaf on a tree
Blown away forever
Into the cool autumn breeze
The snow has now fallen
And my sun's not so bright
I struggle to hold on
With the last of my might

In my den of inequity
Viciousness and subtlety
Struggle to ease the pain
Struggle to find the same

Ignorance surrounding me
I've never been so filled with fear
All my life's been drained from me
The end is drawing near...

[III. Carpe Diem]

"Carpe diem
Seize the day"

I'll always remember
The chill of November
The news of the fall
The sounds in the hall
The clock on the wall
Ticking away
"Seize the Day"
I heard him say
Life will not always be this way
Look around
Hear the sounds
Cherish your life
While you're still around

("Gather ye rosebuds while ye may)
(Old Time is still a-flying;)
(And this same flower that smiles today)
(Tomorrow will be dying")

We can learn
From the past
But those days
Are gone
We can hope
For the future
But there might not be one

The words stuck in my mind
Alive from what I've learned
I have to seize the day
To home I returned

Preparing for her flight
I held with all my might
Fearing my deepest fright
She walked into the night
She turned for one last look
She looked me in the eye
I said, "I Love You...
Good-bye"

("It's the most awful thing you'll ever hear")
("If you're lying to me...")
("Oh, you dearly love her")
("...just have to leave...)
(All our lives")
("Seize the day!")
("Something happened")
("Gather ye rosebuds while ye may")
("She was killed")

[IV. The Darkest Of Winters]

[Instrumental]

[V. Another World]

So far or so it seems
All is lost
With nothing fulfilled
Off the pages and the
T.V. screen
Another world
Where nothing's true

Tripping through
The life fantastic
Lose a step
And never get up
Left alone
With a cold blank stare
I feel like giving up

I was blinded by a paradise
Utopia high in the sky
A dream that only drowned me
Deep in sorrow, wondering why

Oh come let us adore him
Abuse and then ignore him
No matter what
Don't let him be
Let's feed upon his misery
Then string him up for all the world to see

I'm sick of all
Your hypocrites
Holding me at bay
And I don't need
Your sympathy
To get me through the day

Seasons change and so can I
Hold on Boy
No time to cry
Untie these strings
I'm climbing down
I won't let them push me away

Oh come let us adore him
Abuse and then ignore him
No matter what
Don't let him be
Let's feed upon
His misery
Now it's time for them
To deal with me

[VI. The Inevitable Summer]

[Instrumental]

[VII. The Crimson Sunset]

I'm much wiser now
A lifetime of memories
Run through my head
They taught me how
For better or worse
Alive or dead
I realize
There's no turning back
Life goes on
The offbeaten track

I sit down with my son
Set to see the Crimson Sunset
(Gather ye rosebuds while ye may)
Many years have come and gone
I've lived my life, but now must move on
(Gather ye rosebuds while ye may)
He's my only one
Now that my time has come
Now that my life is done
We look into the sun
"Seize the day
And don't you cry
Now it's time
To say good-bye
Even though
I'll be gone
I will live on
Live on"


Dan-i-Am 88 (358 D)
11 Aug 11 UTC
+1 to Conservative Man for being a fellow DT fan. Side question, what are your thoughts on the Portnoy debacle?

U2 - Where the Streets Have No Name

I wanna run
I want to hide
I wanna tear down the walls
That hold me inside
I wanna reach out
And touch the flame
Where the streets have no name
Ha...ha...ha...
I want to feel
Sunlight on my face
I see the dust cloud disappear
Without a trace
I want to take shelter from the poison rain
Where the streets have no name
Ho...ha...

Where the streets have no name
Where the streets have no name
We're still building
Then burning down love
Burning down love
And when I go there
I go there with you
It's all I can do

The city's aflood
And our love turns to rust
We're beaten and blown by the wind
Trampled in dust
I'll show you a place
High on a desert plain
Where the streets have no name

Where the streets have no name
Where the streets have no name
We're still building
Then burning down love
Burning down love
And when I go there
I go there with you
It's all I can do

Our love turns to rust
We're beaten and blown by the wind
Blown by the wind
Oh, and I see our love
See our love turn to rust
Oh, we're beaten and blown by the wind
Blown by the wind
Oh, when I go there
I go there with you
It's all I can do
Maniac (189 D(B))
11 Aug 11 UTC
Not American Pie - By Lolly Ric

A long long time ago
I can still remember when you stood up and became a man
And I knew that bit by bit
That we could build a relationship
On love and trust, together hand in hand
But lately you’re made me quiver
With the brutality you’d deliver
Your promises never kept
Underneath the rug they’re swept
I can’t remember the very start
But you must’ve had a change of heart
And something moved from light to dark
The day you broke my heart

So, bye-bye, and I’m telling you why
I can’t take this any longer
And I’m going to die
You will be so sorry, weep, holla and cry
Because this could be the day that I die
This could be the day that I die

This is so far removed from love
I feel your stealing hand in your iron glove
But that's not how it used to be
When I gave you food and I gave you a home
Gave you your freedom and a licence to rome
But you always returned to me
Well, I know you were in love with me then
You worshipped me way back when
You lived of the fat of the land
With your children a happy band
But money made you take, take, take
Stripped me bare and then the rape
You moved from love to hate
The day you broke my heart
I started crying

Bye-bye, and I’m telling you why
I can’t take this any longer
And I’m going to die
You will be so sorry, weep, holla and cry
Because this could be the day that I die
This could be the day that I die

Now for an eternity we’ve come so far
Revolving together around a fading star
But that’s not how it’s going to be
Because when I die, I’m taking you as well
And all your children are going to hell
In the time it take to make a cup of tea
And if you’re reading this with some shock
It’s not about one man, it’s about the damn lot
’Cos they all burnt carbon and cut down the trees
And brought me, Mother Earth, to my knees
They made plans for another day
Or simply turned away
Now it’s time I had my say
Today you’ve broke my heart

No more singin’

Bye-bye, and I’m telling you why
I can’t take this any longer
And I’m going to die
You will be so sorry, weep, holla and cry
Because this could be the day that I die
This could be the day that I die
Octavious (2802 D)
11 Aug 11 UTC
THE BLACKBIRD - The Wurzels

[Chorus]Where be it Blackbird to? I know where he be,
He be up yon Wurzel tree, And I be after he!
Now I sees he, And he sees I,
Bugger’d if I don’t get ‘en
Wit a girt big stick I’ll knock ‘im down
Blackbird I’ll ‘ave he!
La la la la la la
La la la la la la
‘Ow’s ‘E Father?
(Audience Answer) Allright!

All me life I’m on the farm, Workin’ for me keep
Tendin’ pigs and chickens, and they cows and sheep
But everywhere I’m workin’, there’s one who always mocks me
He hidin' somewhere in the trees, blackbird I’ll ‘ave he!

[Chorus]

Underneath the open sky in spring we loves to dine
We likes to ‘ear the flappin’ of the missus washin’ line
We listens to a tuneful song, a blackbird or a tit,
But on me vest and underpants he scored a direct hit!

[Chorus]

If I goes out poachin’, a creepin’ through the fields,
With me old retriever, a followin’ at me heels.
If I aim me shotgun at a pheasant in the hay
That bloody blackbird starts his row and frightens him away!

[Chorus]

No longer can I sleep at night, get peace of any kind,
That bird’ll be the death of me, he’s prayin’ on me mind!
If I chase him long enough, I’ll get ‘en by and by,
And celebrate me vict’ry with a girt big blackbird pie!

[Chorus]



Culture at its best :)
SergeantCitrus (257 D)
11 Aug 11 UTC
Me vs. Angry Mob - The World / Inferno Friendship Society

I was barreling down the street
Scott looked back at me and said,
"This is another bizarre and thankless
situation you've gotten us in."
Well like you've never been in a fight before,
like you've never caused a scene?
Anyways shut up Scott you're not even
really here.

And this ain't the worst we've seen
We've been through worse than this
and we will live to laugh about this
Just shut up and keep running!
What did you say to make that guy so angry?

[instrumental]

Scott smiles, I burst through a restaurant to their kitchen back door
The cooks look up startled as I trip across the floor
"You used to be so good at getting out of things, Scott"
I say "How come you never taught me that trick?"
Behind the restaurant, we're sizing up the fence.

Am I gonna get over that thing?
I've been through worse than this
and I will learn to laugh about this
I'm sick of, Scott, running!
Jumping roof to roof, it's scary

I'm sick of it Scott, fighting!
Sometimes winning
sometimes my jaw needs icing.
And do you think that I'm funny?
One day it'll be a bon mot too many
(dig it)

[instrumental]

I honestly don't know if I'm gonna make some of these leaps
I gesture up, a figure in a window waves
I say "hi"
There has got to be a smarter way to deal with all these creeps
Scott purses his lips, furrows his brow and says,

There has never been a time
When brains has not won over brawn
and we will live to see the dawn
And Scott you're still not really here
and we all do what we can where we can, Pete.

Get home safely
(I will, I do, I always do)
I miss you, you bastard
(I will, I do, I always do)
Get home safely
(I will, I do, I always do)
I miss you, bastard!

[instrumental]

There has never been a time
When brains has not won over brawn
and we will live to see the dawn
And Scott you're still not really here
and we all do what we can where we can, Pete.

I'm sick of it, Scott, fighting!
Sometimes winning
sometimes my jaw needs icing.
And do you think that I'm funny?
And that's what I said to make that guy so angry!


SergeantCitrus (257 D)
11 Aug 11 UTC
Might be a hard song to relate to if you aren't chased down the city streets by an angry mob once in a while. It's a living.
SacredDigits (102 D)
11 Aug 11 UTC
So.
So you think you can tell
Heaven from hell
Blue skies from pain.
Can you tell a green field
From a cold steel rail?
A smile from a veil?
Do you think you can tell?
Did they get you to trade
Your heroes for ghosts?
Hot ashes for trees?
Hot air for a cool breeze?
Cold comfort for change
And did you exchange
A walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?

How I wish, how I wish you were here.
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fishbowl
Year after year.
Running over the same old ground,
What have we found?
The same old fears.
Wish you were here.
@Dan: Well, I'll miss Portnoy's lyrics. Notice that all the songs I posted were Portnoy-written. I do however think that Mangini is as good of a drummer as Portnoy, so no loss there.
joey1 (198 D)
11 Aug 11 UTC
Christ is Risen - Matt Maher. My 6 year old son and 4 year old daughter also love this son and sing it often. (I am only worried that they may get in trouble some day for saying 'Hell' as that is the part of the song that they repeat [O hell where is your victory])

Let no one caught in sin remain
Inside the lie of inward shame
We fix our eyes upon the cross
And run to Him who showed great love

And bled for us
Freely You've bled for us

Christ is risen from the dead
Trampling over death by death
Come awake, come awake
Come and rise up from the grave

Christ is risen from the dead
We are one with Him again
Come awake, come awake
Come and rise up from the grave

Beneath the weight of all our sin
You bowed to none but Heaven's will
No scheme of Hell, no scoffer's crown
No burden great can hold You down

In strength You reign
Forever let Your church proclaim

Christ is risen from the dead
Trampling over death by death
Come awake, come awake
Come and rise up from the grave

Christ is risen from the dead
We are one with Him again
Come awake, come awake
Come and rise up from the grave

O death, where is your sting?
O hell, where is your victory?
O church, come stand in the light
The glory of God has defeated the night

Sing it, o death, where is your sting?
O hell, where is your victory?
O church, come stand in the light
Our God is not dead, He's alive, He's alive

Christ is risen from the dead
Trampling over death by death
Come awake, come awake
Come and rise up from the grave

Christ is risen from the dead
We are one with Him again
Come awake, come awake
Come and rise up from the grave

Christ is risen from the dead
Trampling over death by death
Come awake, come awake
Come and rise up from the grave

Christ is risen from the dead
We are one with Him again
Come awake, come awake
Come and rise up from the grave
Rise up from the grave
Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
11 Aug 11 UTC
STUFF THAT WARRANT UP YOUR ASS!STUFF THAT WARRANT UP YOUR ASS!STUFF THAT WARRANT UP YOUR ASS!STUFF THAT WARRANT UP YOUR ASS!STUFF THAT WARRANT UP YOUR ASS!STUFF THAT WARRANT UP YOUR ASS!STUFF THAT WARRANT UP YOUR ASS! -Gigi Allin
Octavious (2802 D)
11 Aug 11 UTC
The Old Department Store

I used to work in Chicago
In the old department store.
I used to work in Chicago,
I don't work there anymore.

A woman came in for a hammer,
A hammer from the store.
A hammer she wanted, nailed she got,
I don't work there anymore.

chorus

A woman came in for some nails,
Nails from the store.
Nails she wanted, screwed she got,
I don't work there anymore.

etc etc etc
FatherSnitch (476 D(B))
11 Aug 11 UTC
Octavious is 2 for 2 with the Wurzels and I Used to Work in Chicago - outstanding!

"Crazy ABC's" - Barenaked Ladies

Hey Steve, hey Ed, that sounds nice, what is it?
Thank you, it's a, it's an alphabet song I'm working on
Oh great, a whole new alphabet, I just learned the old one

A is for aisle, B is for bdellium, C is for czar
And if you see him would you mind telling him?

Okay, hang on a second, yeah aisle, bdellium?
Yeah, aisle like a, like a theater, alright, okay and bdellium?
Bdellium, it's a gum like tree resin, it starts with a silent B
And then czar? Yeah, it's uh like a Russian czar

You know everybody knows apple, ball and cat
I wanted to get into some, you know some stranger words
Right, I see what you're doing

D is for djinn, E for Euphrates
F is for fohn, but not like when I call the ladies

I thought phone started with a P like a Ph
No, it's F O H N, it's a, it's a kind of wind
Yeah, I know what you mean by wind

G for gnarly, I for irk, H is for hour
J for jalapeños, good in either corn or flour
Tortillas, nice rhyme

K is for knick knack, L is for llama
Pramma, llama, ding, what's so strange about llama?
Llama, it starts with two L's, what's the second one for?
No idea, I know loser

M for mnemonic, N is for ndomo, O is for ouija board
P for pneumonia, pterodactyl and psychosis, Q is for qat

Okay, Q qat? What? Yeah, it's uh Q A T, it's an evergreen shrub
It's a perfect scrabble word because it's a Q with no U
There's not many of those, you have too much time on your hands

R is for argyle , no it isn't
Okay, you're right, I couldn't find a good R word
S is for Saar, a lovely German river
T for tsunami, a wave that makes me quiver

U is for urn, but not like earning money
V for vraisemblance from French and therefore kind of funny

W for wren, wrinkly and who
X is for Xian, an ancient Chinese city, true
Ancient Chinese city, huh? My guitar player, some hotshot

Y is for yperite, a very nasty gas
And zed's the final letter and by final I mean last

Okay, when you say zed for the benefit of our American friends
You really mean Zee, right?
No, I mean zed, like, like Zed Zed Top, Zed Zed Top?

Yeah, you know the guys with the big long beards
Well, except the guy whose name is Beard, he has a mustache
I always thought that was interesting

You done with the alphabet?
No, extra letters I haven't heard of? I think so
This was a great help, I think
With the contribution you made to world literacy

Well, I'm just saying, kids I'm just saying
Think outside the box a little bit, box with an R
Yeah, well, no box with a B A L K S like a pitcher
Ah, as opposed to B A C H S

Right, think outside the box, get into some Rachmaninov
That's Rachmaninow with a W
+1 SacredDigits & Fathersnitch

And my personal favorite:

Some lovers just rely on their hearts
The core remains of what began with a passionate start
And they may not want it to end
But it will, it's just a question of when
I've lived long enough to have learned
The closer you get to the fire the more you get burned
But that won't happen to us
'Cause it's always been a matter of trust

I know you're an emotional girl
It took a lot for you to not lose your faith in this world
I can't offer you proof
But you're gonna face a moment of truth
It's hard when you're always afraid
You just recover when another belief is betrayed
So break my heart if you must
It's a matter of trust

You can't go the distance
With too much resistance
I know you have doubts
But for God's sake don't shut me out

This time you've got nothing to lose
You can take it, you can leave it, whatever you choose
I won't hold back anything
And I'll walk away a fool or a king
Some lovers just rely on their minds
It's make believe until it's only a matter of time
And some might have learned to adjust
But then it never was a matter of trust

(INSTRUMENTAL INTERLUDE)

I'm sure you're aware love,
We've both had our share of believing too long
When the whole situation was wrong

Some lovers just rely on their souls
A constant battle for the ultimate state of control
After you've heard lie upon lie
There can hardly be a question of why
Some lovers just rely on their hearts
The core remains of what began with a passionate start
But that can't happen to us
'Cause it's always been a matter of trust

It's a matter of trust
It's always been a matter of trust
It's a matter of trust
Mack Eye (119 D)
12 Aug 11 UTC
One of many favourites:

You're searching for your mind don't know where to start
Can't find the key to fit the lock on your heart
You think you know but you are never quite sure
Your soul is I'll but you will not find a cure
Your world was made for you by someone above
But you chose evil ways instead of love
You made me master of the world where you exist
The soul I took from you was not even missed

Lord of this world
Evil possessor
Lord of this world
He's your confessor now!

You think you're innocent you've nothing to fear
You don't know me, you said, but isn't it clear?
You turn to me in all your wordly greed and pride
But will you turn to me when it's your turn to die?
Mack Eye (119 D)
12 Aug 11 UTC
And one more:

It's a great big world
There's a million other guys
I feel so lucky when I look
In those green eyes

Is it the sun
That makes them so green
Those are the prettiest eyes
I have ever seen

Green eyes...

What makes them sparkle
What makes them shine
What makes those eyes of yours
Look into mine


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Hydro Globus (100 D)
11 Aug 11 UTC
Registration
It is impossible to register to this game since the switch to the dedicated server, the validation page just refreshes. 6 of our group is already registered, but we cannot (and will not) start a game without the seventh member. If it is a browser issue, IExplorer, Firefox and Chrome are displaying this error.

Hope this will get resolved soon, I'm eager to play with my friends.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
11 Aug 11 UTC
Any one else stay up all night?
Or is it just me?
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SacredDigits (102 D)
12 Aug 11 UTC
Who is a world leader?
It seems I was talking to random people somewhere I'm not proud of about this, so I'm making a thread. Are people like Kim Jung Il and the leader of Iran "world leaders?" Either way, why?
8 replies
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krellin (80 DX)
10 Aug 11 UTC
APOLOGIES TO ALL
On these forum threads, I have been offensive, to say the least. As an excuse, I would say it was because I have political differences with people that offend me....but, as suggested, that is just an excuse.
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Hugo_Stiglitz (100 D)
12 Aug 11 UTC
Sink the Gunboat
10 to get in, Classic game, Classic Rules, need 3 more

gameID=65396
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LordVipor (566 D)
12 Aug 11 UTC
New Members Joining
Hi, I have a few friends who are trying to join, but when they register, they do not get a confirmation email. They have been trying over the past 72 hours and still no change.
Does anyone know when WebDip will have its servers fully set up?
Thanks
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damian (675 D)
27 Jun 11 UTC
150cc Live Diplomacy Club
Well given that the original thread slid into the depth I figured I'd start a new thread, and try and give a little life back to what I think was a promising idea: Essentially a high class live game club

194 replies
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Sargmacher (0 DX)
11 Aug 11 UTC
Santa's Gunboat Thread.
A seperate thread to discuss the issues surrounding Santa's complaints with the Gunboat Tournament. Please use this thread to let the original Summer Gunboat News thread be used for its purpose.
5 replies
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Jelle (103 D)
11 Aug 11 UTC
Rules question: Cutting support if dislodged?
What will happen when orders below are given? Will there be stand-off in Budapest?
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Indybroughton (3407 D(G))
10 Aug 11 UTC
Why respond to idiots and haters?
Why attempt rational discourse with someone who behaves wildly inappropriately on threads?
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