"The irony, it is overpowering."
+1 jack, we finally agree on something lol
"@Fasces....no....he doesn't mute all liberals. he mutes Conservatives, too. Becuase he is such a moronic, arrogant fool that he mutes everyone that even suggests he might be wrong on any single point."
He hasn't muted me, should I be insulted or proud?
"Deductibles are what tax attorneys and accountants live for.
47% of Americans already don't pay any income tax whatsoever.
How do you give 47% of the people a tax cut on taxes they don't pay?"
Thats my problem with some of the republicans, they now convinced that forcing those 47% of people to pay taxes would classify as a tax raise...
"For example, the communist nations have fallen due to the lack of economic growth that is spurred by competition because they were 'too' far to the left."
No, they didn't fall because of lack of economic growth. They lacked economic growth because of the lack of competition, BUT they fell because their centralized government couldn't fully understand the economic and political situations of the common Russian and made grave mistakes that, at the time, nobody saw was a bad idea.
"At the same time, our own nation is falling apart at the seams because capitalism is, at its base, a system designed to make a few wealthy people even richer at the sweat, toil and expense of the majority."
No capitalism, at its base, is the idea that you make the markets increasingly competitive to drive down the prices and boost progress to making better products.
It fell because in the end, capitalism is just a game, and all games have to end. Once the game is over, and someone wins the system falls. However I would argue that a lot of the problems with our current governments regulation systems ended the game faster.
The economic crisis we are in right now, I would argue, actually proves the need for a more right wing stance on things.
The current economic crisis we are in is not because of what happened in 2008, it was because governments were spending to much.
Back in the Early 90s (When Bush SR was overspending and Japan became bankrupt) The Economist warned that if governments continued to spend more then they earned they would eventually be bankrupt and that could damage the confidence of the consumer, and eventually lead to a massive recession.
In this sense Clinton, the Democratic President of America in the late 90s did a bloody good job at preventing the problem. The both ran surpluses in almost every budget they passed. However Bush JR was the first president since FDR to raise spending without raising government revenue. And in FDRs defense he had a world war and an economic depression to deal with. Bush had the best economic situation the US had seen since Eisenhower. You can't be considered a conservative if your not conservative with spending. For that reason I hate the Bushes and Reagan. (however its not just the Republicans that are the problem.
For this reason you are partially right when you said the reason our economy failed is similar to
the communists:
It was the governments not being able to predict everything that cause the communists to fall.
It was the governments become to big and failing to balance budgets that caused our system to fall.
Clearly on both sides it was the government that cause the problem. So why would one argue that increases the governments interference in the economy would prevent that?
This is the bullshit the left wing politicians are advertising. That it was the Big Businesses fault that we are in the situation so if you give me more power I will prevent this from happening.
Most idiots assume that statement is true because their President is the one saying it, and so listen. However they forget 2 important facts about politicians:
1. They became politicians because they want power
2. They lie all the time
If you remember those 2 important facts the motif of the statement above becomes clear. Giving them more power is what they want, and lying is the only way to do, so they do.
In the US 42% of the GDP is government spending. That was a statistic I read back in 2010. If anyone can call that capitalist, your a fucking retard.
Less government regulations and spending will save the economy.
"When our nation and its people finally realize that neither system truly works BUT a healthy combination of both is required, we will one day again flourish. Until then, our current path to self-destruction is the only route available to us."
The famous compromise line from liberals. We need a balance between Left and Right. Don't give me that bullshit. A good compromise leaves both sides unhappy. You can't efficiently incorporate both.
The economy of Germany in the 1930s actually provides a good example that proves that.
"Funny, countries like Sweden consume a lot of energy but 50% of it is renewable, much of it is solar. European countries and China have are on the cutting edge and America is behind as usual."
Don't give me that bullshit Putin. 85% of the China's energy comes from Coal...
"Socialist ideas applied to a capitalist and free-market system merely hold the system back. Socialist priniciples only work in a perfect society without greedy people. A Capitalist system is based on the "invisible hand" of competition. Competition lowers prices and allows for the creation of more jobs. Government regulation merely stifles competition. It is not the responsibility of the government to intervene on our behalf if something goes wrong."
+1 Avenger
"First Apple, communist governments fell because of their violent oppression of freedom. "
No it fell because they governments were to centralized.
"The Soviet Union built the Berlin Wall to keep people in for God's sake.
Your argument that capitalism is nearly as oppressive as communism is infantile, intellectual indefensible, and patently absurd."
For the sake of biting putin I just want to save over a 1000 people died each year trying to get from East Germany (communist control) to West Germany (capitalist control)