It's because you guys pay more attention to debating then to playing I would presume.

Most of my losses were in my first two years here...I had something like a 80% loss rate at one point! Talk about a learning curve! :)

But I don't think you can judge by points, Fasces, because I don't generally play big-pot games...

But if you want to say I'm more of a social player than a teeth-barred, "this is my whole life!" kind of player, obsessed with rankings....

Yes. That's true.

For me, live Diplomacy is 2-4 hours with some classical music on, a book, a drink, and enjoying the ride like I would a good ballgame...

And @FirstApple:

If we ARE going by points...you aren't exactly in a position to knock us. ;)

Also, Fasces:

I have played 135 games, with 4 going...

You've played 35 games.

Easier to call yourself a "Good" player with such a small representative sample; play 100 more games, then see if you're in the same place...

@obiwan I still playing my very first games since I joined the site a week ago. I wouldn't expect to have much higher than I'm currently at. Furthermore, i wasn't making the statement as a 'knock' per se... just more of an observation.

Fasces, I have 165 with 130 in play. Thank you.

*I'm still playing...

I agree with obi that D points matter very little toward overall win/draw percentages. I have played in generally lower-pot games, especially the Master's tournament which were 5 per game against pretty stiff competition. I have also seen several people with nearly 1000+ D points who certainly didn't deserve it because they got most of them from one or two games or from decent survival positions, and we can all say that surviving with 12-15 centers is nothing compared to the guy who won.

@obi: http://vdiplomacy.com/profile.php?userID=261
I also play on other sites...

@Tru: Before you can play 1000 point games you have to get 1000 .

Generally (with tournaments being the exception) the more points in a game the better the players are.

I agree totally with that. I'm just now making the jump to 100+ D point pots. What I don't want to happen for myself is that I play one bad game in a 100+ point pot and it depletes my total points and I have to return to low pot games. This is especially true since I have made the switch to WTA.

The GR are a much better determinant of skill, I think, that and the W/L/D ratio...

I have 5 wins, with about a 50/50 split between Draws/Survives and Losses.

I think I'm ranked #208 in the standings, but I've climbed from the 2000s, so a lot of that is due to my first two horrible years statistically.

I'm definitely not the best defender for we "talkers" being good players...

But I wouldn't count myself as a weak player when I've risen with each GR and I ahve a 50/50 Loss/Draw/Survive split.