"TGM - If you would like an answer, selfishness is wrong because it denies that which is good, i.e. things such as charity, love, etc. That is not to say that it is wrong to want to have things for ourselves, but to do so to the detriment of charity, love, and service to others is wrong. Note that I state this on a moral, not legal, basis."
Well, clearly it denies those, but why are they good? Its the same question that you've left essentially unanswered.
I find it impossible to accept a position which doesn't begin with a clear, justified morality, because ultimately the objectives of that position are going to be more or less just the whim of the person who holds it.
"also you're trying to draw people into arguing with you about the quality of health care when access is the reason we're trying to reform it. basically you're making the argument that the death of thousands of poor and lower-middle-class people is worth having the "best" health care system in the world even when people in other countries live longer for cheaper BOOMSHAKALAKA"
1. I am not arguing for the American system, but for a free market system
2. I have pointed out all ready that there are countless reasons why people life for a shorter time in America, besides the fact that it isn't free market:
America has more poor people than the UK
Americans in general have a less healthy lifestyle
Pollution in areas is much higher in America
to name but three.
3. The important statistics are about how well defended against disease you are (e.g. the amount of vaccination you get) and how likely you are to be effectively treated (i.e. relative survival rates), as I refered to in my first post.
Haven't time to respond to the rest right now.