"These people were violent to begin, period."

What do you base this on? Wishful thinking?

"Let's just consider this a postpartum abortion and write it off as A-OK..."

But you love children.

This case with respect to the book is so unusual that it's news. A legal system that could accommodate this specific tragedy would be so worryingly complete that it would be terrifying in the areas where it was wrong.

First off, the "anarchist cookbook" has no relation to anarchy or anarchist, people who go around making weapons and harming others and damaging property are not anarchists, they are retards.

Secondly, I agree that this book is one of the most perverted books to be published in a long time, and the authors seriously need to reconsider their mental health, that being said, I don't think this book, or ANY book (even mein kampf) should be banned, as idiotic, or hate filled it may be. As krellin said, people need to take some responsibility for their actions, the parents pinning the reason they committed such atrocities on the book is laughable. If some stranger tells you to kill someone (for example) do you do it? And if you do,who is guilty, the stranger or the dumbass with questionable morals who actually did it, which could lead to the conclusion that the person committing the act would have done so without the tip from the stranger. Can you honestly believe parents who beat their kids with pipes, starve them and commit other insane things would not have done so if they didn't read the book? Someone capable of fulfilling what the book says needs to be seriously questioned.

Also, addressing the aggressiveness and bias towards Christians, by the article, as a Christian myself, it is insulting that the article groups all Christians as supporters of this evil book. "Christians" that carryout what is written in the book are not Christians. They are defying Jesus' teachings in doing so. I was personally spanked when I was a kid, but I was never starved or beat by a fking pipe, or abused. In my culture (eastern European) it is common for parents to spank their kids for misbehaving, but the spanking is almost never abuse (when it is its because the parents are alcoholic or have twisted morals etc) and is done to teach the kids to be better, not with the purpose of making your kids crawl into a hole and "obey". That's just fucked up.

@ Krellin: "...that think that these parents were perfectly polite, non-violent loving adults who one day read a book and *bling* suddenly decided that beating a child was right, even though they never considered it before"

I did not say that.

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You implied it, or at least made it sound like that...

I don't believe I did.

I made it clear that I felt the primary responsibility rested with the parents who killed their child. I then turned to the role of the authors, and I said:

"the authors of the book also bear some responsibility for writing a book which encourages parents to beat their children with pipes and sticks, deny them food, hose them down with cold water and lock them outside in cold weather"

I stand by that statement.

Nowhere did I actually speculate as to the state of mind of the parents in question *before* they read the book. Krellin's suggestion that I had said I though the parents were "polite, non-violent, loving" people before they read the book is pure invention on Krellin's part.

The primary responsibility lies with the parents, not the book or its authors. I think that's fairly clear. HOWEVER that does not mean it's ok to publish a book encouraging parents to beat and starve their children. It isn't.

Since we're engaging in pure supposition, let's suppose that these parents were of a short-tempered and somewhat violent disposition in the first place. Let's suppose that they might have sometimes spanked or hit their children, even before they read the book. But let's suppose they sometimes worried whether such violent discipline was good for the children, perhaps being anxious that they were going too far. Now along comes a book, a book written by someone professing to be an expert in childcare, and which claims to have sold over 600,000 copies. The book tells them that beating and abusing their child in the name of discipline is fine, and is for the child's own long-term good. Not only are their anxieties now laid to rest, but thanks to this book, these violent parents now have at their fingertips a range of ideas and tips about new ways to hurt their child, that they might never even have thought of.

Can you really say that the authors of that book have *no* responsibility for that?

If there were a legal way to ban this book it would have happened by now. This isn't exactly a new issue.