M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

[Vecna]

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My D2 vote is on HB. I wrote in an earlier post (here: viewtopic.php?p=194636#p194636) about why I'm voting for HB.
To expand on that, I feel very underwhelmed by HB's defense thus far. Asked me about my vote on him, appears to accepted it and moved on. Asked bb about his opinion on teacon's last message, received a vague response about teacon hiding scum by not mentioning them and moved on. Also feel weird about HB asking for any feelings on Maniac's D1 Durga vote that both rdr and myself used to justify our votes on him. It feels scattered and that all doesn't sit right with me, hence my suspicion.

In terms of other reads that I haven't yet verbalized, I don't have great feelings about Damo and EMC. The latter for the really weak sus on the former (including a vote on damo despite being around at EoD). The former for their D1 Maniac vote.

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Isn't the scum more likely to be organized and moving with a solid direction? They know who's town, and there's a chance that there's a coordinator posting in their QT to keep them acting according to plan. I don't buy this reasoning for a sus on Hamilton.

I agree that emc isn't looking too hot at the moment, but you sus Damo for his maniac vote, even though you also voted maniac d1 and were around at EoD (you posted on page 109, EoD was 110). Why's this?

this guy is so in-tune with all them details

[Vecna]

not that im one to speak on such matters, but I just cannot find any common ground between us atm for anything even resembling a gamesolve

Why do you expect us to be on the same wavelength on day 2?

its just me gauging whether I can get behind you believing those reads or youre hiding some scumbuddies in your top list

[Durga]

It's v irritating that 3 players are not playing at all.

[Vecna]

imagine if guak and captainmeme were also playing

[Vecna]

##vote HB

[Fluminator]

HR, can you tell me how confident you are on your damo townread?

[ghug]

Would people be more interested in aaro than brain? It seems like brain isn't happening today.

[ghug]

imagine if guak and captainmeme were also playing

I wish.

Guak sometimes played. Meme at least read the thread.

[celaph]

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My D2 vote is on HB. I wrote in an earlier post (here: viewtopic.php?p=194636#p194636) about why I'm voting for HB.
To expand on that, I feel very underwhelmed by HB's defense thus far. Asked me about my vote on him, appears to accepted it and moved on. Asked bb about his opinion on teacon's last message, received a vague response about teacon hiding scum by not mentioning them and moved on. Also feel weird about HB asking for any feelings on Maniac's D1 Durga vote that both rdr and myself used to justify our votes on him. It feels scattered and that all doesn't sit right with me, hence my suspicion.

In terms of other reads that I haven't yet verbalized, I don't have great feelings about Damo and EMC. The latter for the really weak sus on the former (including a vote on damo despite being around at EoD). The former for their D1 Maniac vote.

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Isn't the scum more likely to be organized and moving with a solid direction? They know who's town, and there's a chance that there's a coordinator posting in their QT to keep them acting according to plan. I don't buy this reasoning for a sus on Hamilton.

I agree that emc isn't looking too hot at the moment, but you sus Damo for his maniac vote, even though you also voted maniac d1 and were around at EoD (you posted on page 109, EoD was 110). Why's this?

I would think that town have an easier narrative to fall back to when their reads fall apart. Presumably there were good reasons for their moves and they can work to justify those moves as reasonable given their information despite being wrong. Scum don't have that fall back as their position is built on lies and faulty premises.

Granted, HB's choice to prioritize finding other scum as his defense could be a play style choice by him. I believe he said so himself. If these efforts lead somewhere, I could be convinced to change my vote. In the mean time, I'm concerned that the lack of follow up on his questions means he isn't getting anywhere.

I've seen your second question, but have to step away at the moment. Will respond when I get back on.

[Hellenic Riot]

HR, can you tell me how confident you are on your damo townread?

Well it's obviously not getting stronger while he says nothing at all today, but I was reasonably confident after D1

[Hellenic Riot]

Would people be more interested in aaro than brain? It seems like brain isn't happening today.

I'd consider either of them if emc doesn't take off

[Bonatogether]

Isn't the scum more likely to be organized and moving with a solid direction? They know who's town, and there's a chance that there's a coordinator posting in their QT to keep them acting according to plan. I don't buy this reasoning for a sus on Hamilton.

I agree that emc isn't looking too hot at the moment, but you sus Damo for his maniac vote, even though you also voted maniac d1 and were around at EoD (you posted on page 109, EoD was 110). Why's this?

I would think that town have an easier narrative to fall back to when their reads fall apart. Presumably there were good reasons for their moves and they can work to justify those moves as reasonable given their information despite being wrong. Scum don't have that fall back as their position is built on lies and faulty premises.

Granted, HB's choice to prioritize finding other scum as his defense could be a play style choice by him. I believe he said so himself. If these efforts lead somewhere, I could be convinced to change my vote. In the mean time, I'm concerned that the lack of follow up on his questions means he isn't getting anywhere.

I've seen your second question, but have to step away at the moment. Will respond when I get back on.

There's no agreed upon baseline yet for who is an alive town, and no PR information has come out, so almost every argument is going to be based on a train of thought that is not purely logical - a leap of logic or an assumption made that not everyone agrees upon is necessary to make a case at this stage. Perhaps town arguments rely on less uncertainties, but that's still a hazy line.

So you're saying, given the same information as we have now, if he can nail a scum, you'll change your vote? Wouldn't it be a little late to change your vote if it's revealed that he has, in fact, gotten a scum?

[ghug]

Would people be more interested in aaro than brain? It seems like brain isn't happening today.

I'd consider either of them if emc doesn't take off

Any chance you're willing to give emc a day on the back of a townread from a sexy Seattlite and join me on one of them now? :p

[Hellenic Riot]

@Bona

I notice you've spent a lot of today questioning other people's reads (and a big post looking back at teacon's actions), without actually giving any of your own - aside from voting celaph because he voted without giving reasons. Do you have any townreads? Has teacon's flip affected those? What did your look back at teacon lead you to conclude about other people?

[Hellenic Riot]

Would people be more interested in aaro than brain? It seems like brain isn't happening today.

I'd consider either of them if emc doesn't take off

Any chance you're willing to give emc a day on the back of a townread from a sexy Seattlite and join me on one of them now? :p

Not really, because basically every single one of the reasons you've given for townreading him are exactly the sort of things I can imagine emc doing as a ditzy scum-team member. I struggle to believe he'd play all that differently given his general townstyle.

[ghug]

I'd consider either of them if emc doesn't take off

Any chance you're willing to give emc a day on the back of a townread from a sexy Seattlite and join me on one of them now? :p

Not really, because basically every single one of the reasons you've given for townreading him are exactly the sort of things I can imagine emc doing as a ditzy scum-team member. I struggle to believe he'd play all that differently given his general townstyle.

Fair enough. I'll be here when you're ready.

[ghug]

Alright, do y'all prefer high ghug or tipsy ghug?

[Fluminator]

I'm not used to EMC posting so not sure how to read him, but I agreed with whoever said his reaction to the teacon death was quite townie.

[Fluminator]

Oh it was ghug nice

[Fluminator]

I should really differentiate the 3 newcomers in my mind soon.