M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

[kgray]

She also seemed a little defensive to Durga’s comment about Teacon/ND possibly being saved, which is a little interesting in hindsight now.

You should reread that in context. Teacon's votes were increasing at the time, so it didn't really make sense that he could be being saved, and I was still on teacon at that time.

That all being said - I am the most suspicious of kgray. I am sure there is a deep explanation of some sort buried in D2 and I will read it eventually, but she has done enough to warrant ##vote kgray

This is the second-worst thing I've ever read.

[kgray]

Kgray then casts the ultimate deciding vote on ND, pushing them into the lead.

Are you saying you knew I'd voted for ND when you moved to ND?

[kgray]

After quickly skimming the posts from yesterday/last night, and the flip of Teacon, all I can do is rip up most of my reads since they're shit. My read of Teacon as town was through a slender margin, anyway.

Scrutinize those that moved off teacon?

Did you scrutinize those that moved off teacon?

[Bonatogether]

teacon may have tried to help them both in thread (bona and celaph) by lifting them up and sstablishing a minimum expectation of play. trying to boost them with softball questions about their experiences. teacon didnt treat aaro that same way either

This is incorrect. Teacon had a post asking aaro about his experience, and then put at the end of that post that I and celaph should answer it as well.

[Vecna]

Also gonna call Flum and to a lesser extent yoyo as some of the others

Shouldnt you be suspicious about me for coming after you, construing the world to be revolving around a scum neph, all the while doing a decent attempt at swaying people to move off of Teacon at EoD without even voting for ND myself to escape all the VCA warriors?

You're apparently hyper aware of how you looked so why you spooked I sussed you?

flummyboy, if youre actually town, do yourself the favour and convince me of that, as opposed to trying to score cheap points

[Vecna]

Shouldnt you be suspicious about me for coming after you, construing the world to be revolving around a scum neph, all the while doing a decent attempt at swaying people to move off of Teacon at EoD without even voting for ND myself to escape all the VCA warriors?

You're apparently hyper aware of how you looked so why you spooked I sussed you?

Ironically I'd suspect town you would be much more passionate and efficient at getting votes off teacon compared to whatever you did this game.

I was sitting at the couch watching a movie and talking to the wife. it was not mafia time. Seemed that the effort was pretty efficient though, even though it backfired.

[kgray]

This post is awful and smells like classic scum Bozo bad reasoning to find a reason for a vote

What? How is this different from damo's vote, which you seemed to give him towncred for?

I'm not bothered by this post at all, this is exactly what I expect from town!bozo.

Wheres the supporting evidence? his questioning? The bigger picture?

This is just "I scumread, because vote bad"

That's literally what damo did. I'm asking why you liked damo's vote but not bozo's.

[Hamilton Brian]

Kgray then casts the ultimate deciding vote on ND, pushing them into the lead.

Are you saying you knew I'd voted for ND when you moved to ND?

Not saying that at all. Is there something I'm missing?

[Hamilton Brian]

After quickly skimming the posts from yesterday/last night, and the flip of Teacon, all I can do is rip up most of my reads since they're shit. My read of Teacon as town was through a slender margin, anyway.

Scrutinize those that moved off teacon?

Did you scrutinize those that moved off teacon?

Not yet. There actually don't seem to be that many.

[kgray]

Kgray then casts the ultimate deciding vote on ND, pushing them into the lead.

Are you saying you knew I'd voted for ND when you moved to ND?

Not saying that at all. Is there something I'm missing?

You seem to be scumreading me because I cast the "deciding" vote on ND when, from your POV at the time, you were casting that deciding vote.

[Hamilton Brian]

teacon may have tried to help them both in thread (bona and celaph) by lifting them up and sstablishing a minimum expectation of play. trying to boost them with softball questions about their experiences. teacon didnt treat aaro that same way either

This is incorrect. Teacon had a post asking aaro about his experience, and then put at the end of that post that I and celaph should answer it as well.

What do you think brainbomb was trying to establish there?

[kgray]

After quickly skimming the posts from yesterday/last night, and the flip of Teacon, all I can do is rip up most of my reads since they're shit. My read of Teacon as town was through a slender margin, anyway.

Scrutinize those that moved off teacon?

Did you scrutinize those that moved off teacon?

Not yet. There actually don't seem to be that many.

Correct. It's just me. That's why I don't like that you're suggesting this is how we move forward. You're implying that moving off of teacon is the most likely way scum would have acted at EOD, but I know that didn't happen.

[Hamilton Brian]

Are you saying you knew I'd voted for ND when you moved to ND?

Not saying that at all. Is there something I'm missing?

You seem to be scumreading me because I cast the "deciding" vote on ND when, from your POV at the time, you were casting that deciding vote.

I am scumreading you. I do see what you're getting at, but I didn't move off of teacon. You did. It's pretty suspicious.

[Vecna]

What? How is this different from damo's vote, which you seemed to give him towncred for?

I'm not bothered by this post at all, this is exactly what I expect from town!bozo.

Wheres the supporting evidence? his questioning? The bigger picture?

This is just "I scumread, because vote bad"

That's literally what damo did. I'm asking why you liked damo's vote but not bozo's.

I have no idea which damo vote youre talking about, but I read those people using vastly vastly different metrics.

[Fluminator]

Shouldnt you be suspicious about me for coming after you, construing the world to be revolving around a scum neph, all the while doing a decent attempt at swaying people to move off of Teacon at EoD without even voting for ND myself to escape all the VCA warriors?

You're apparently hyper aware of how you looked so why you spooked I sussed you?

flummyboy, if youre actually town, do yourself the favour and convince me of that, as opposed to trying to score cheap points

It's a genuine question.

Being the starter lead on a scum wagon is enough towntelling on my part for now.

[kgray]

Not saying that at all. Is there something I'm missing?

You seem to be scumreading me because I cast the "deciding" vote on ND when, from your POV at the time, you were casting that deciding vote.

I am scumreading you. I do see what you're getting at, but I didn't move off of teacon. You did. It's pretty suspicious.

I also made teacon a real wagon in the first place (after not including him on a list of people I wanted to vote, so I had plenty of room to stay away), and I tried to encourage emc to join it.

[kgray]

Wheres the supporting evidence? his questioning? The bigger picture?

This is just "I scumread, because vote bad"

That's literally what damo did. I'm asking why you liked damo's vote but not bozo's.

I have no idea which damo vote youre talking about, but I read those people using vastly vastly different metrics.

This one:

##vote kgray

slides off teacon at T-11 and onto ND at T-3

And I think we have different opinions of how bozo scumhunts.

[celaph]

Using a cop-type role on these lurkers is pretty excellent id say. Having townclears on slots that scum dont want to kill normally is nice.

Your second point here has convinced me to ##vote Hamilton Brian for now. I'd still like Yoyo to talk though.

What's the second point, and why has it convinced you? Christ I can't think right now.
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Looking back I think part is probably a better word than point. I simply meant the piece that you've quoted here.

It convinced me to not vote for Yoyo right now because it (1) provides a mechanism to clean him, (2) provides a reason that keeping an otherwise inactive town Yoyo alive, and (3) I think it implicitly answers my question to Balki on when should we kill an inactive Yoyo if not now (if a cop finds Yoyo scum or we conclude that there is no cop).

As for why I'm voting you now: I don't think it's a secret that your D1 reads are off, you've admitted it so yourself. I think it also provides good info on Balki and his D1 actions as Vecna highlighted. I disagree with Bozo's earlier remark that a scum Balki is bussing you. I don't think it makes sense for a scum Balki to try and bus HB at that point particularly with Teacon's wagon sitting where it was as I think the killing of scum would benefit town more than a clean on Balki would.

[worcej]

You seem to be scumreading me because I cast the "deciding" vote on ND when, from your POV at the time, you were casting that deciding vote.

I am scumreading you. I do see what you're getting at, but I didn't move off of teacon. You did. It's pretty suspicious.

I also made teacon a real wagon in the first place (after not including him on a list of people I wanted to vote, so I had plenty of room to stay away), and I tried to encourage emc to join it.

Yet you left it - why?

I have only read from my last post on, so if you addressed this in the past just say so and I will hunt it down eventually.

[Bonatogether]

teacon may have tried to help them both in thread (bona and celaph) by lifting them up and sstablishing a minimum expectation of play. trying to boost them with softball questions about their experiences. teacon didnt treat aaro that same way either

This is incorrect. Teacon had a post asking aaro about his experience, and then put at the end of that post that I and celaph should answer it as well.

What do you think brainbomb was trying to establish there?

I'd hazard a guess that brain was trying to boost aaro and knock me and celaph. That's kind of weird, because he townread me in his EoN post (although people had said that some of my posts are scummy, no one has suggested that I am scum). This lines up with his opinion of celaph, as he has made abundantly clear, but I don't know what he's doing with aaro, since he null read him in N1.