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Riphen (198 D)
06 Apr 12 UTC
Xbox Live Arcade Diplomacy Game
Just a idea i thought of while on my xbox. Anyone else think it is a good idea? If it had 7 player matches and functionality like this website (with 1 day or more turn systems + plus live games) I think I would pay at least 10 bucks to purchase it as long as it was simple but still got the diplomacy feel.
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dubmdell (556 D)
06 Apr 12 UTC
I wrote a song for you Ava!
Inspired by Sarg's comments in this thread:
http://webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?viewthread=851524
I wrote this song for Ava! I used my friend's twelve string for instrumentation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGkA1eJ2llk
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Fasces349 (0 DX)
05 Apr 12 UTC
Trolling is now Illegal?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/04/arizona-bill-criminalize-online-speech_n_1404038.html

If your in Arizona your no longer allowed to legally troll people. Good thing I am in Canada, and you Americans say we don't support free speech...
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Draugnar (0 DX)
05 Apr 12 UTC
If you were to run for President, what would your theme song be?
You know, like Hillary was supposed to have New york State of Mind play when she campaigned in NYC... What would play and would it vary depending on where you were stumping?
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
05 Apr 12 UTC
You know you've finally made it when .......
.......you're in the top 96% of all players :-)
I feel for the 344 people below me, they must be rubbish !!
I was a 'political puppet', now I'm a 'casual player'
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krellin (80 DX)
05 Apr 12 UTC
FANTASY BASEBALL MANAGER!
Need 1 or 3 more manager!! ASAP. Hit me or Acmac up for league and pw info.
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rdrivera2005 (3533 D(G))
04 Apr 12 UTC
New Game
My last full press game have finished (and not in a good way with a 6-way draw after a CD) and I want (need) a new one.
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fulhamish (4134 D)
05 Apr 12 UTC
The Disowned Army
I knew one of these brave men. Unfortunately the proposed ''pardon'' will come too late for him, good news nevertheless.
http://www.forthesakeofexample.com/
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dubmdell (556 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
Guitar
Any guitar players out there?
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
01 Apr 12 UTC
THANK YOU BRANTLEY GILBERT
gameID=84842 go go go
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
03 Apr 12 UTC
ABI Championship Series
Still going:

ABIC-G1: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=76750
ABIC-G2: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=76751
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
30 Mar 12 UTC
Craven Country Jamboree
Anyone ever heard of this thing? Looks like the best thing on earth.
http://www.cravencountryjamboree.com/?s=5
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Sargmacher (0 DX)
05 Apr 12 UTC
Very Good Position 2 Replacements Needed
13 Center Kenya: gameID=82036

7 Center England: gameID=74851
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King Atom (100 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
I Just Thought I'd Reiterate
From a Picture 2 years old...I present to you, a new meme!

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q592/KingAtom/Thatlldo.png
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Sargmacher (0 DX)
05 Apr 12 UTC
Good Position Replacement Needed
Please can someone replace Near-East in this game: gameID=83780

The position is good and has room for growth. Please don't let our game be ruined by this 1 CD. Thank you in advance, lovely person!
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
Those Times When Someone's Opinion Is...Just Wrong...(NFL QBs?)
...as I'm sure mine often is? ;) Well, here's a multi-million dollar example:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/joe-flacco-thinks-nfl-best-quarterback-005500221.html
Yeah...I like Flacco as a QB, I honestly do...but in a league with Peyton, Brady, Eli, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees...for starters...no. NOT the best in the NFL. But...who is--rank the QBs?
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President Eden (2750 D)
05 Apr 12 UTC
message to all special games hosts who contacted me recently
Apologies in advance for being a prima donna and taking forum space for my personal needs here, but I legitimately let a couple of invitations fall off my messages page without replying in time because of being ridiculously busy.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
02 Apr 12 UTC
Is there a Chemist in the house?
I made a model for H3++, but I don't know what that's called.
H3+ is a trihydrogen cation, but is there a distinction between how "ionic" a molecule is?
Thanks!
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Chanakya. (703 D)
05 Apr 12 UTC
EOG:gameID=85172
I Personally didnt liked England, older france and New France for leaving the game , Moreover Italy is highly critisized. I think Austria played good and Germany is very good for me or its Non Aggression!
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butterhead (90 D)
05 Apr 12 UTC
ava was right!
Mute thread is being used a lot for me now.
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Hyperion (1029 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
What does an economic crisis mean to you?
Just curious.. what do you think when you hear the distant term "economic crisis" on television, the news, or from the general population?

I'm just a student getting through my miserable life, searching for motivation in this supposedly upcoming damned world.
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semck83 (229 D(B))
05 Apr 12 UTC
So, I don't completely agree with everybody in this thread -- so why not jump in and tick off everybody? :-)

Abge, I'm disappointed that you support something just because it's useful, without regard to whether it's authorized in the Constitution. Why have a Constitution at all?

Moreover, I'm not actually sure that NSF funding is a good idea. Now sure -- it's definitely a better idea than a lot of the stuff we waste our money on, and it definitely does have some benefits. I wouldn't just ax it. But that said, it's not completely clear to me that the government is the best body to be deciding things like what research gets funded, let alone all the rest of the things that the money gets spent on. Probably a lot ends up getting wasted, though a lot does good. At the end of the day, I'd say it's a pretty decent idea, and I'll support it, but scientists should be less shrill about it being some kind of birthright, or people who oppose it being cretins.

All that said -- and whatever one says pro or con -- I do think it's completely Constitutional, even under pretty rigorous standards of Constitutionality. The relevant clause is the first one in Article I, Section 8:

"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;"

Now, there is disagreement about the interpretation of this clause, I'll admit, but even from the 19th century (see Joseph Story's "Commentaries on the Constitution" from the 1830s), if not well before, this has been widely interpreted as meaning the federal government can spend money on whatever it wants.

That does not mean it's a good idea for it to spend money on whatever it wants; and it does not mean it has any regulatory or police power it may desire. But as far as just spending money, I think there aren't a lot of limits on what it can Constitutionally do (for better or worse).

To summarize: I think the NSF is Constitutional (though if it weren't, I'd oppose it based only on that); and I think it's worthwhile, but not without risk. There's an argument to be made that the market should be allowed to determine these things, and I'm honestly very sympathetic to that argument; but there's little doubt that we've all benefited enormously from having well-trained scientists and engineers. I will say that I'm very interested to read both sides of this.
fiedler (1293 D)
05 Apr 12 UTC
@Krellin - Just some feedback on your ranting.

"I can't sell my house without getting financially **raped**"
- you mean you can't sell your house without losing some imaginary money.


"Imagine NOT being able to move if you wanted to..."
- it's funny that a guy who talks so tough about others problems thinks his trifling first-world difficulties are some great tragedy.


"this idiot Obama ran the debt up by 4...5...TRILLION dollars"
- take a look at this:
http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/images/item/hardball-20060411-budget.gif

Obama has NOTHING to do with the economic crisis. NOTHING. He's just dealing with the mess created by bush. Got it?


"PISS US OFF??? B-52's"
- the intelligence of this comment speaks for itself. Please don't come on here crying to us when some poor innocent arab who's entire family was killed by area-bombing decides to suicide-bomb your local hick pub. Maybe if this was more of a realistic possibility then you wouldnt say such retarded things in the first place eh?


"We are NOT in Labanon. You know why? We BOMBED THEM...and they caved. We are STILL in Iraw and Afghanistan....because we occupied."
- this is just downright stupid.


"Reagan killed FAR LESS through bombing Labanon than we have managed to kill over endless war in Iraw and Afghanistan. if we would have carptet bombed them ONCE.....and pacified them....there would have been FAR FEWER deaths....on BOTH sides..."
- so you advocate bombing to death 32 million iraqis? So there will be "FAR FEWER deaths" ?


"Good converasation guys and gals."
- if you say so drunk racist dickhead krellin.


"I would ask you to take 1 day out of your life...JUST ONE....and research WHERE all of your favorite technolgies evolved from.
Damne dnear sure you will find the military is involved in most, if not all, of them, including your comfortable, thin winter jacket."

"i GUARANTEE i CAN find more offshoots of miltary technology in your life than you can find off-shoots of NON-military technology."

- Let's see... books, toilets, electricity, music, cars, aircraft, trains, houses, furniture, hot chicks... the list just keeps on going of things the military didn't invent. What the military is actually good at inventing is ways for cowardly assholes to kill ever more people from ever further away. Good thing? Not really.


"Get an education....learn about your world...."
- that's funny coming from you.

And that's all of your 'wisdom' I can be bothered with for now.
You do go on and demonstrate what a racist POS you are, but why bother arguing with that? You should check yourself in at the local funny farm instead.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
05 Apr 12 UTC
@semck

I'll freely admit I'm not a constitutional lawyer. It is my understanding (and you seem to agree) that the NSF is constitutional. Clearly, if it weren't, then it would have to stop operating (although I would instead be in favor of amending the constitution).

Now that we got that out of the way:

There is a problem with the market being responsible for all innovation.

Corporations want to see profits and as quickly as possible. Not all research is immediately relevant to the current market and it is therefore very hard to pitch to corporate research grants.

There are, of course, exceptions to this, such as Bell and Watson Labs.

The government, however, is in a position to invest in longer-term goals.

I would be interested to hear your views on DARPA vs. NSF, which, ultimately both fund research, with a few different caveats.
semck83 (229 D(B))
05 Apr 12 UTC
@abge,

I don't seriously disagree, I think. I agree with the long-term versus short-term, notwithstanding the exceptions. I guess my queaziness comes from the coercive element of it all. Even though I do think it benefits the nation as a whole, I'm uncomfortable with some guy who works 40-60 hours a week having to give up part of his paycheck against his will to support my science, even if I do think said science will benefit everybody long-term. It MIGHT not benefit HIM. DARPA is a little clearer case, because it does lead more directly to defense capabilities.

There's some interesting game theory here, I suppose. If it weren't for the NSF, companies would all want there to be an NSF, but none of them would want to support it themselves. Maybe that's where the strongest argument for such a thing comes from. They might in that case just pool their money to get it done (for the benefit of the PR, say), and this is just more efficient. Hard to say. Admittedly, probably not very many people are worried about this. :-) It's clearly a better and smaller use of money than most things.

Indeed, don't get me wrong. As a mathematician, I'm extremely grateful for what the NSF does, and I can see directly that it does great things. I'm just uncomfortable (as one who benefits more directly than most) at the sense of entitlement many have to this. Society doesn't have to do this for us, and we should certainly take care to try to make clear what the benefit is that general citizens receive for their money. (Something I think the NSF also does decently well, actually, but I'm just saying).
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
05 Apr 12 UTC
"Even though I do think it benefits the nation as a whole, I'm uncomfortable with some guy who works 40-60 hours a week having to give up part of his paycheck against his will to support my science, even if I do think said science will benefit everybody long-term. It MIGHT not benefit HIM. "

This doesn't bother me at all. We all pay for taxes, some of which directly benefit us, some which don't. I don't mind putting my share in. For instance, even if I never planned on having kids, I still wouldn't mind paying taxes for local schools, because I know that, overall, it's a good investment.

abgemacht (1076 D(G))
05 Apr 12 UTC
Also, who's to say what research benefits who.

I have no idea what math you do, but if you develop some algorithm that eventually gets put into my simulator, which eventually gets used by Intel to make processors a little cheaper then we've both saved the average Joe a little ca$h.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
05 Apr 12 UTC
And, let's be honest, my paycheck costs each citizen about 1/10000th of a cent. I only need to shave 1 penny off processor costs for my research to have a 10,000x return on investment.
Hyperion (1029 D)
05 Apr 12 UTC
Thanks for the on-topic responses. I read through, beginning to understand what it means for most folks. Guess most of us are pretty bold about the term?
fiedler (1293 D)
05 Apr 12 UTC
@Hyper: You can always count on webdip :D

To address your question. Yes it's understandable that you are worried about your future. Yes this is a time of recession. It's happened before and will happen again. It doesnt really matter tho. For you, as an individual, have to do your best in the circumstances you have, just like the rest of us. You might become very successful, you might not. 2 things determine this: luck and your own efforts. So just go for it. Adapt and thrive. Or not, its all cool by the good lord.

For me, In my country nobody really has to worry too much, nobody starves or lacks a roof over their head. So I'm lucky. I feel sympathy for others. Except for krellin, he's pissing me off right now.

@krellin: tomorrow when you are apologetic and sweet, begging for 'one more chance' and hoping for make up sex, I just wanna say GFY. I don't play other peoples sick games.
On the topic of the OP, I think that "economic crisis" is an umbrella term, which covers many types of crises.

There are financial crises, under which fall foreign exchange crises, liquidity crises, credit crises, and banking crises
Then there are fiscal crises, which are the government debt crises that were mentioned above. This usually precedes a banking of Forex crisis.
And then there are the general economic crises, such as recessions, asset bubbles, supply chain interruptions, inflation, etc.

So when I here "economic crisis" I scoff at the vagueness of the term.


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ghug (5068 D(B))
05 Apr 12 UTC
Elites and (Reasonably Highly Rated) Scum Public Press Game
Sarg's thread made me realize that I've never played public press and would rather like to. Anyone in the top 100 GR is welcome to join, though I can increase the limit if we need more, and people in the top 50 should probably join Sarg's first (not trying to poach players here). Details are negotiable.
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King Atom (100 D)
05 Apr 12 UTC
I Thought I Could Handle It...
I thought that there was a small chance that I could simply ignore all of krellin's inane spam posts. But now...I am free. I think we all should join together by muting krellin. It is quite relieving.
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dubmdell (556 D)
02 Apr 12 UTC
Community Story
As the Hobbies thread seems to indicate, we have a few writers among us. Let's compose something together, shall we?

Rules: 1) Limit yourself from 1 to 3 sentences. 2) No double posts. If you make a typo, the next poster just has to roll with it. 3) No digs at other users. If I have to spell this one out explicitly for you, then don't bother posting in my thread. 4) Just have fun with it!
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krellin (80 DX)
05 Apr 12 UTC
King Atom's God
The Other day, King Atom professed the salvation of jesus Christ. Since then, he has talked agout fucking men in the ass. I wonder....how many believe in King Atom's ass-fucking God, Jesus Christ, who apparently is an ass-fucking homosexual??? NOT that there is anthing wrong with that....
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ATF (0 DX)
05 Apr 12 UTC
World game needs players
I'm in a game called Fast World Game, as the name implies it has 10 hour turns, and it would be great to get some more players, we have a lot of open spaces and the bet is only 5
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dubmdell (556 D)
03 Apr 12 UTC
I hate to start the Zimmerman back and forth again
But a friend sent me this news story:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/nbc-to-do-internal-investigation-on-zimmerman-segment/2012/03/31/gIQAc4HhnS_blog.html?hpid=z6
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Draugnar (0 DX)
04 Apr 12 UTC
Diplomacy is the art of...
<*insert Diplomacy meme here*>
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
01 Apr 12 UTC
Share Your Hobbies
I'm sure we all have interests besides Diplomacy. What are they?
I've started making lamps out of glass bottles. You can see 2 finished ones here:
https://plus.google.com/photos/112097194861235770883/albums/5726520958325469041?authkey=CNCVuouql4XN8gE
What about the rest of you?
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
04 Apr 12 UTC
High chance I will be an elector to the electoral college
for Americans Elect americanselect.org I encourage you all to support Americans Elect especially if you know the value of compromise.
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