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stratagos (3269 D(S))
07 Oct 10 UTC
Dare-settling game set up
Includes me, MadMarx, three other people as of this moment, and... you?
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=39580
pw; MM
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Julien (2065 D)
06 Oct 10 UTC
The Cigar club: WTA, anonymous, 429 pts, 36 hrs..
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=39578
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taos (281 D)
07 Oct 10 UTC
join
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=39606
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taos (281 D)
07 Oct 10 UTC
join adrenalin now
the fSTEST GAME
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trip (696 D(B))
06 Oct 10 UTC
gameID=39012
Need replacement Pac-Rus. Hasn't missed a phase.
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texasdeluxe (516 D(B))
24 Sep 10 UTC
Civilization V
Anyone played it yet?
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
05 Oct 10 UTC
The Cigar club: WTA, anonymous, 900 pts, 24 hrs..
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=39485
it is called the Cigar club to evoke a gentleman's atmostphere, like the one prevailed in Yalta where the World was divided among smokes of cigars :)
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Praetorian308 (100 D)
03 Oct 10 UTC
Marijuana Decriminalized in California
Thoughts? I, for one, am very satisfied with the ruling, and hope that it becomes a part of the economy if it is ever legalized.
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
04 Oct 10 UTC
MadMarx Invitationals
There are some people that owe me a game, and some people I owe a game. I will start two or three games in the near future. If I owe YOU a game, please remind me in this thread, thanks!
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acmac10 (120 D(B))
06 Oct 10 UTC
2 more
gameID=39268

35 D 36 hours full press
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Bitemenow10 (100 D)
06 Oct 10 UTC
umm glitch?
i have like 2000+ days untill my next move.... wat do?
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woody (843 D)
06 Oct 10 UTC
Meta Gamers
Is there an official place to post these? or should I post my suspicions in this thread?
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akilies (861 D)
05 Oct 10 UTC
Muse Concert
Anyone going to the Muse concert tonight in Minneapolis?
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josepr (100 D)
06 Oct 10 UTC
wtf!; 5 minutes game
join
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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
03 Oct 10 UTC
A Metagaming Game
I want to organise a game where Italy at the start divides the other 6 players into 3 pairs who must then metagame for the win. No-one may disclose their metagame ally, nor who they are not allied with. People can only comment about other pairs (real or imaginary). So only Italy knows exactly what are the 3 alliances.

The game will be anon WTA of course. Anyone interested?
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kriokamera (100 D)
06 Oct 10 UTC
10-minute game
Hello!
Do someone want to play live game? I do.

And tell me please, how much time will it take on classic map.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
04 Oct 10 UTC
The 2010-11 NHL Season Starts In 5 Days...Predictions and Picks and the Posteason--OH MY!
Yep--just a few more days and The Good Ol' Hockey Game starts rolling again! So let out your fandomonium and let's fill the next few days with some talk about teams that might actually WIN (Mets finished 79-83 today and the 49ers are basically done before they began at 0-4, so that's the end of THEM for a while...) and what you think. Who'll surpise? Who'll disappoint? Scoring leaders? Postseason picks? Cup winner? Will teams be moving North soon? Faceoff Time! ;)
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Bob Genghiskhan (1233 D)
21 Sep 10 UTC
Where do you fit on the trustworthy-untrustworthy scale?
How do you think other perceive you on this site, trustworthy or untrustworthy. I eagerly anticipate flame wars to come fast and furious if we get some action to this thread, so I'll start off with my own self-evaluation.

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Julien (2065 D)
05 Oct 10 UTC
High stakes game
Here is a new game: http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=39485
WTA, anonymous, 900 pts, 24 hrs.. it is called the Cigar club to evoke a gentleman's atmostphere, like the one prevailed in Yalta where the World was divided among smokes of cigars :)
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Silent Noon (205 D)
05 Oct 10 UTC
Ancient Med
A new small-pot Ancient Med game for beginners, or for those who wants to relax a bit:
gameID=39497
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Sicarius (673 D)
01 Oct 10 UTC
Global social unrest on the horizon?
Signs point to yes

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Rommeltastic (1111 D(B))
04 Oct 10 UTC
Haiku - Round 3
An all-public-message, anonymous PPSC game where each player must speak in haiku format.
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
05 Oct 10 UTC
1500 point buy-in, WTA, 48h phases, ANONYMOUS
Suicidal Tendencies:
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=39482

NO DISCUSSING WHO'S WHO IN THIS GAME, SERIOUSLY ANONYMOUS!!!!
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Ebay (966 D)
02 Oct 10 UTC
Anyone up for a highly rated Ghost Ranking game?
I saw that some players did this last month so I'd like to start one this month. Game will be based of the October rankings list. I'm 68 so I'd like to find players somewhere in the same neighborhood. Details can be decided here as no game has been created yet.
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Bob Genghiskhan (1233 D)
04 Oct 10 UTC
EOG Statement from Sunday Gunboat Rematch
Michigan Man, when you're sitting second strongest in a winner take all match, it's generally not a good idea to continue hostilities against the third strongest power, or he may decide to throw the game to the first place power just to spite you.
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Bob Genghiskhan (1233 D)
04 Oct 10 UTC
I am in a gunboat with 6 insane people.
It really, really sucks, especially because I had a central location.

Worst game ever.
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Invictus (240 D)
04 Oct 10 UTC
It's Over With!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=39451

50 D, 24 hour phases, pointer per center, 10 days to join
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The Lord Duke (3898 D)
03 Oct 10 UTC
Black Sea on World diplomacy map.
I asked some time back why a fleet in BLA ont the world dip map can only order to Turkey & Armenia but not to Moscow, Ukrain or Balkans e.c.?
I still don't know the answer.
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spyman (424 D(G))
04 Oct 10 UTC
Opening strategy
I have had a tough time lately being jumped by multiple powers in the first year. This has made me think that this is my weakest area of play. I would interested to hear from others how they think this part of the game is best handled. Thoughts?
Might I see some games?
spyman (424 D(G))
04 Oct 10 UTC
The best example is an ongoing anon game so I can't show that one just yet. But here are some games that went badly early on (not all of them in the first year though, but I suspect I must have handled the early negotiations poorly).
gameID=35912
gameID=19811
gameID=17552
gameID=13682
In 35912... it looks like Italy was after you from the beginning, so your Hedgehog move was slick, I can't fault you for that. I would advise opening to Serbia, not Rumania, though. Rumania can be secured by any Russia that opens Mos -> Ukr in that case (as the tendency around here seems to be) even if they don't stand you out, and honestly you're probably going to see a fleet there as often as an army. A Russian fleet in Rumania is nothing to fear. Meanwhile, Serbia can't be forced by any other power. That opening will guarantee you a build.

Diplomatically, I don't think you could have done much. There was a Juggernaut on the cards, and Italian players that don't prop up Austria tend to be next. It might have been your saving grace, though, since Turkey stabbed Russia, probably due to you being preoccupied and supposedly easy pickings later.

Your defense against Italy was admirable and the right play; aside from Bud -> Rum, I don't think you could have improved. You just have those games sometime. I'm in an anon as England, and I turned down an offer from France to be game-long allies on principle (it was in S1901, like hell I'm committing to that!)... next thing you know there's a Sealion on the books.

19811 was simple enough. Your RA collapsed against you. I don't blame that one on you very much. Italy attacked at the right time, but you countered magnificently, I don't think he got a single center off you once! The problem was that you had tactically and strategically bereft French play (typical Frenchies ;]), and with Turkey dead, no one could deliver the coup de grace to Italy, forcing you on defense until Russia made his late push on you. The Russian was also bad strategically, ignoring the greater English threat until it was far too late. Again, nothing you really could have done differently; your downfall was due to bad play by other countries.

17552... sorry if this sounds like a jackass comment, but I have no fucking clue what you were doing with your opening. It looked to me as though you had a DMZ in the Black Sea, but intended to attack Russia anyway, so you went to Armenia... but if so, you might as well have full-on stabbed and taken the Black Sea in S1901. Then you'd have had a shot at holding out. Your position just caved in because you angered MadMarx without actually injuring him in any appreciable way. Not a smart play. ;P Austria and Italy were pretty determined against you as well, but if you hadn't angered Russia I think you could have held them off.

13682 looked fine to me, though I suspect the inconsistent French player had to do with that. You were facing an EF after 1902 and that is always troublesome. Luckily you and England recognized the Austro-Italian threat and acted accordingly, carving up an inconsistent French player in time to get a draw.

That's the best I can figure from just moves. I hope it helps, though without being privy to press I can't guarantee I got the all-important diplomatic phase down.

As for more general pointers, the early game is all about diplomacy. I generally try not to lie to other players in the early going, but it is prudent to be generous with other players' centers. An England willing to offer the French homeland and Belgium to Germany in exchange for being allowed Scandinavia and Iberia is far better off than one who leaves his options over for the mainland, even if he has no intention of staying out of the French homeland spoils. Think of the early game as an auction: unless you, your competitor, and the seller can come to some agreement ahead of time on how to divvy up the prize (as in, for instance, a Western Triple), you have to outbid your competitor to get the prize.

And you better move fast. The other critical part of earlygame negotiations is something called "controlling the document." I think that's the name, surely an attorney-at-lawlz can help me out, for being the one to propose deals from the get-go. The player which proposes first gains a huge psychological advantage in future negotiations, as this player is seen as the leader. It is his plans which are more often followed and his stabs, then, that are more successful.

The fact that you were in game 17552 with such a star-studded cast tells me you've probably heard this before. You seem like a pretty good player. You probably just ended up unlucky in a few of those games. Believe it or not, luck DOES play a role in Diplomacy. It's not pure CHANCE, like a dice roll, but sometimes you just don't get the breaks you need. You're probably just hitting a rough stretch. I get 'em on occasions and it sucks. The best thing you can do is work to break an alliance. And given how long I've rambled, and my complete failure to achieve this in recent games (see http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=37205#gamePanel for a prime example of my brilliant rival Indybroughton and his ally Dalemark refusing to buy the "I'll throw my centers" line -- if they won't buy that you're truly cooked), that subject is best saved for someone else.
...and God damn, I just pulled an obi. Sorry, man. <_>
spyman (424 D(G))
04 Oct 10 UTC
Actually that was awesome. I am ginkgo to re-read and think through your comments carefully. Cheers :-)
I hope it helps. The early game is pretty much make or break for me, personally. If I can make it to the middle game I rarely get defeated, but it can be real tough to catch the requisite breaks. Here's hoping the fickle mistress of luck smiles on your next venture...
spyman (424 D(G))
04 Oct 10 UTC
President Eden, your absolutely right that with gameID=17552, when I was playing as Turkey (with MadMarx as Russia) that move to Amr in the opening (but not also moving to the black sea) was the dumbest opening move I have ever played. This was a case where the early inter-player diploming got the best of me.
My first inclination was to ally with MM, but I knew of MM's reputation, but the word on the board was that MM was "the Devil" and absolutely not to be trusted. I had a strong sense that Italy was gunning for me (let's face it, the Lepanto is the most famous diplomacy opening). Austria showed some promise in his conversation with me that he might help me (this was Babak who has an equally fearsome reputation). I made the mistake of hedging my bets, in the hope that my move would either persaude Babak to take the advantage against Russia, or (implausibly) bully Russia into making a deal with me.
Alas it was New Years Eve (from memory) and Babak had told me he would find it hard to communicate (due to his partying). Furthermore I worked hard at smoothing things over with MM... which I thought had been successful. The move could have been perceived as quite deceptive ruse, against notions of jug. So it appeared that MM had forgiven me. Alas this was followed by a week break in the game (maybe longer). When I checked next the phase was over and MM turned on me.
It was sillly of me. I had MM all wrong. He may well be the devil, but I get the sense he is quite a loyal ally (until the time comes). I really did want to form a jug (but I was afraid it was too much of a cliche), and I shouldn't have let my paranoia make me move to armenia. C'est la vie. I ruined my one game with a few of the very best dip players.


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Malky53 (100 D)
03 Oct 10 UTC
sunday morning live 2
10 min pjase

starts 30 mins
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