I'm a 1.5 - I don't think I can shame GW but I also cannot tell a lie. Mendacity has just passed me by like a ship in the night. Straight as a die, true as a tautology, honest as the day is long (in midsummer north of the arctic circle) - that's me.

I'm probably at about 6.7-7.3

A few people have been repeatedly on my bad side, but I have a few players with whom I've had consistently good relationships.

Ask Draug or Bask right now, and I'm a 9. Hopefully drano or Centurion would say I'm about a 4 or 5.

Going to echo Bob here. I'm fairly middle ground.

The deal is that I lack a consistent style, or rather, I apply it inconsistently. So I'm probably a little less trustworthy than the middle, because I lack predictability.

Where has centurion been, btw? I enjoy sparring with, or allying with, the old troglodyte.

He's gone off to college...he'll be back with the freshman fifteen to spar with you. But good riddance, I say :P

I notice you haven't given yourself an 8 or 9 yet, ava.

Now, why would I do that?

It's the people that give themselves low scores that you need to watch out for...

I think people initially don't trust me because.. idk. Cause I'm vocal I guess. But I do a good job of proving them wrong in many cases so I'm giving myself a 3.5

I am @1.
I never told a lie in my life. In game or not.

@ ava

Because you are about the stabbiest person I've encountered at this site?

What! What ever made you think that?

Oh...wait...

i'm at a 1.1 i almost tell a lie then i don't but then on a rare occasion i do.

In real life I never lie.
However, diplomacy is all about the ability to deceive & manipulate your opponents to your own benifit.
It is not lying, it is not dishonest, it is the art & skill of the gameplayer to outmanouver ones opponents by the skillful use of logic & deception.
That is what the game was designed for.
I would estimate that most players that I have played against would put me as a 2 to a 3 but some of the unlucky ones would call me nasty names or an 8 to a 9.

I would put myself at a 3.5 overall but can be a 1.5 and up to a 4.7.

I am facinated by the reply of Perry6006.
How do you win so many games & yet never tell a lie in any of the games that you play?
Me thinks you are a practiced deceiver of great ability!!!

In dip, I'm a 3ish. I rarely stab, and then just for fun at the end and draw with my ally or to teach a lesson (right Bask?). But the irony is that I'm a bold face liar at poker. I mix up my game and intentionally do faint tells that throw my opponent off. At least for a couple of hours.

I used to be a 2 or 3 and very rarely stab. But my Draw rate was too high and my win rate was too low so I've stepped up the lying and stabbing a bit. Guess what-it hasnt worked!

@Draug-I am intrigued about how you intentionally do a faint tell. Like would the dip equivalent be something like you don't respond to a message but you still follow through like you promised a few times, then the next time you don't respond and you hit them with the grand stab?

I'd guess Draug makes up a trait that goes with a certain strength of hand, be it bluffing or having the strong hand. Then he plays that way until he loses a small money hand based upon someone reading him (atypical bet from opponent if he's bluffing, or folding too early if he's holding), then he starts simulating his tell when he doesn't actually have those cards.

My favorite is the "count a stack of chips and have them ready". Then you pick them up and consider them before checking. Be careful not to start towards the line or some rooms will call it a balk and make you put 'em out. When your opponent puts out their bet if they are after you, you fold. Do this a few times on marginal hands and bleed of $20 or $30 then when you have a hand, repeat and reraise. Do this once and get called. On the second time, be bluffing. He'll fold and you show the bluff. Then go back to strong hands only never showing. If he repops you, you get even more. Just be sure you have a very strong hand and consider the reward to risk potential if he repops you.

Another thing is to say to yourself the exact opposite of what you want them to do. Your subconcious tells will show but say the exact opposite of what they have. In other words, trick your subconcious to trick them.

im to new on the site to rele truly know, but id say so far on this site im a 5, now on my other diplo playground(facebook) i truly am a 2. ive only lied to 3 people on that site, 2 of them i lied to and stole the win(my only 2 diplo wins ever) and one was my cousin who wanted to ally with me and i didnt want to. so im pretty trustworthy.

wow... this is a whole different crop of Dip players - I dont think I've played with any of you (except a RT game with ava maybe)... sigh.

I'd say I'm a 9. but people who play with me probably consider me more of a 9.5 =P

seriously, you gotta ask what other people think of you...

but then again, I try to only play anonymous ;)

Babak - you're an 11 ;)

I vary in game - I'm a 1 in some cases, moving up to an 8 or so in others. I try very hard not to lie outright though, but sometimes it is unavoidable

I'm definitely on the honest side, for the most part.

I don't think it matters what I think my score is on this scale as much as what score others would assign to me. Any comments?

@ Babak -I have played you and you're a whole lot more honest than a 9.

@ Draug-I get your drift, although not all the details, about poker. I was wondering if you had a means of doing a faint tell in on-line dipomacy.

@ Babak
Would you happen to be Babak Talabi?

"I am @1.
I never told a lie in my life. In game or not."

You lied to me a couple of days ago...

peter, it's Talebi, and yes

I could said I am a 1, but I will be probably lying :-)
Some people on the site would say I am at 9, but I guess most will say I am under 5, my draw rate over 50% probably have some reason.
I try to not lell a lie unless it´s really necessary. Being vague on purpose or even telling "I am going to crush you because it´s my best shot" is sometimes a better approach.

@Crazyter - You are still a 2 or 3....

@Babak - I won´t tell you are a 9.5, but I always look twice and carefully at my back when playing with you :-)

" I'm a 1 in some cases, moving up to an 8 or so in others."

Indeed, when I'm telling the truth, I'm definitely a 1, but when I lie, I'm probably a 9 or a 10.

:P

Oh, Ghost. You know what I meant ;)

I know what you said.

I'm probably about a 5-6. Somewhere on the dangerous side of the middle. I have met one player called Kobiritz who is very trustworthy. Look at how much he's trusted me in this game. gameID=25752

@rdrivera-Thanks! I take that as a compliment!

@Crazyter - you are a 2 or 3 until you pull stupid revenge stabs that cause out line to fall. ;-) Then you climb quickly with the insanity. But I'm sure you are feeling much better now...

Yeah that was 1 incident which is now ancient history. I got over that a long time ago. How long are you going to hang onto it? Like my husband says, the Peloponesian War ended along time ago.

I'd go a 2. No variation.
Sometimes makes diplomacy games awkward...

I'm just poking fun,Crazyter, not actually hanging onto it. However, I will admit I will always cover my back if you're behind me.

I'm a 1. Trust me on it!

@Draugnar - I always cover my back if anyone is behind me......

not a freshman ava. and im in peak physical condition thank you. sorry bob is really busy for me atm.

ava bite me i hope your germany

So let me see if I understand - you're asking people if they are

a) dishonest
b) willing to be honest about it

is that right?

@stratagos - You enter a room with two men in front of two doors. Down one door is the exit, the other, escape. You may only ask one question of the two men, but you know that one man will always tell the truth, while the other will always tell a lie.

The difference between that scenario and this thread is that there is only one person, and as you point out, we don't know if they are the truth teller, or the liar :)

I'd say it's ultimately safest to assume everyone is an 11 and then scale back as the game progresses.