i must say, my feel for stalemates lines is not hte best, but have a look here: http://www.diplom.org/Online/StalematesAtoY/visual.htm

thanks but i don't see my position in there. I think its Italies army in Ukr that holds this together

It's not worth the effort it would take to be in a position to possibly break the line.

Oy, you two! Quiet!
@denis- I suggest pressing forward
I'll give a detailed explanation in a bit, if that's alright....

ya its amazing how much thatarmy changes things eh?

That army has nothing to do with it. The weak point in the line is Italy's fleets.

Oops. Not you two.
Why did I think Geofram and orathaic were in that game?
Sorry for the unneeded shouting.
But basically, if the army gets convoyed back to the mainland, and the fleet in North Africa gets to Tunis, you could sac Tunis to move it to Tyrr, and move in from there.
It'll be slow going, but you could plow through.

that page has a progressive list of lines, and the place on the 3x3 grid are where on the map the line is...

so when you click on one it brings you to similar ones which are bigger or smaller...

^What he said, but I was going to let you figure it out for yourself.

Position IX is the most similar

@le roi: can't Tyr be protected by ionian sea, and voilá stale mate?
(this is why we shouldn't talk about on-going games)

you could stab.... this is also why we should talk.... that said, the cowards way out is to draw! diplome your faces off.

Hmmm..PM sent with my thoughts to you, ora.

Oooo i want to spilll out my plans oooo damn you rule!!! can i PM of you?

Go ahead and hit me.
With a PM, that is.

i din't get a pm Le Roi...
denis i think he's trying to confuse and confound you!

looking at the history of that game, i'm rather impressed by the co-ordination of the eastern powers against E-G from the time france stopped being a threat to italy, to the time when E-G became a bigger threat they managed to do a pretty good job getting to where they are now.... well done.

PMed you Le_Roi

and orthiac imagine this in the voice of a nagging teenage girl "I know OMG totally" ( not a girl but i think its appropriate)

@orathaic- really? I sent it 15 mins ago...

thanks Le_Roi and if any one else has suggestions thats great

i suggest not acing like you've got an unshakeable alliance and never getting into the position of being stalemated.

diplome, talk about balance of power. Tell one player you're willing to attack another to keep them from getting too powerful, and then do. Pull off if they attack you and threaten that you will let the other guy win. (your threats are more useful when you follow through.)

diplome the other guy aswell.

don't get into alliances with people who are so close to you that the very thought of attacking them means so many troops (because of your rather impressively long but unmanned border) you can't possible attack with 2 years movement and them noticing...

i'd refer you to : http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=14470
but only becuase i'm proud of how the axis powers got to their agreed draw.

lots of troops along those borders almost all the time. (i'd say it would have gone to a stalemate eventually if we had stabbed someone, but as it's a league game we all wanted 4 and not being in front of all the other league players... we can risk the solos in the last game of our league)

ItsPublic Press just so you know so diploming is in front of everyone and I've been trying check the chat archive.

you can say things like, "i'm going to stop germany from growing too much, but not devote enough troops to kill him." in the global chat.

but, yeah, i didn't notice it was public press, that probably changes things.

Might I interest you two fine gents in a WTA game? :)

Well if you sit for me that might be bad but i might consder it

wtf of course this violates the rule, jesus.

@denis- hmm...that could be a problem. You could find someone else to sit for that game in particular. I'm a trustworthy guy.

i haven't said anything about my plans or discussed anything a pron wouldn't find out anyway

no, the 'unwritten' rule is that it's not a good idea to talk about on-going games.

but if he had messaged me, he could have gotten the same advice i've given, without you knowing about it...

A small shrimp? ;)

Le_Roi I'll see

is that better of worse?

better or worse, stupid keys board.

we called a draw