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Star Revil (276 D)
22 Aug 09 UTC
What do you get if you survive?
What do you get if you survive a game?
Do you get your bet or do you get your worth?
spyman (424 D(G))
22 Aug 09 UTC
PPSC - you get a share based on the number of SCs you have.
WTA - nothing.
Star Revil (276 D)
22 Aug 09 UTC
How do you calculate how big your share is?
digitsu (1254 D)
22 Aug 09 UTC
um, using basic division?
Star Revil (276 D)
22 Aug 09 UTC
How? Is it written somewhere by the makers of this game?
rador (144 D)
22 Aug 09 UTC
34/ size of pot= the points per center. i am not sure how it calculates for when someone has over 18 centers. but if someone won with 18 centers, its just ppcXcenters
Star Revil (276 D)
22 Aug 09 UTC
For example, the pot is 7x5 = 35

There are only 3 players left. 1 winner and 2 survivors.
The winner has 18 supply centers, 1 of the survivors has 10, and one of the other survivors has 6.

How much does everyone get?
Xapi (194 D)
22 Aug 09 UTC
What you would get if the game were to be won by someone right then and there is stated as your "worth", actually (Next to "bet").
Ivo_ivanov (7545 D)
22 Aug 09 UTC
You get to play till the end. That matters by itself.

Plus some points if it's PPSC.
You get a cookie and an attaboy.
Draugnar (0 DX)
22 Aug 09 UTC
@Star Revil (or is it Liver Rats)

Assuming the game is PPSC, it is computed right now is the winner gets half the pot. No matter if it is 18 or 28. So the winner gets 18 in your example. The other players each get 6 and 10 respectively as the PPSC is 1. This is assuming the basic calculations haven't changed in the new code base beyond the initial winners split.
Star Revil (276 D)
29 Aug 09 UTC
So.. Wouldn't it be an idea if behind everyone's name, where you have ''Bet'' & ''Worth'', to also have something like: Points.

To know that if the game would end now, how many points you'd get...?
Draugnar (0 DX)
29 Aug 09 UTC
If it's PPSC, you'd get the roth. If it is WTA, you get nothing. It's already there if you think about it.
Draugnar (0 DX)
29 Aug 09 UTC
@roth=worth
Draugnar (0 DX)
29 Aug 09 UTC
grrrrrrrr @=*

*roth = worth
Star Revil (276 D)
29 Aug 09 UTC
OK. And I still don't get the thing about what you get from the pot ;P
Just give me a simple theory ;D
Draugnar (0 DX)
29 Aug 09 UTC
Your worht is your share of the pot. It's simple. Look at the worth value and that is what you'd get if someone were declared the winner and your number of SCs didn't go up or down in the meantime.
Draugnar (0 DX)
29 Aug 09 UTC
This is from a game with a pot of 476 D.

Turkey Dunecat (2535 )
Last seen: 02:10 AM Bet: 68 , worth: 154
11 supply-centers, 9 units

Austria CountArach (383 )
Last seen: Fri 09 AM Bet: 68 , worth: 126
9 supply-centers, 8 units

England Crazyter (96 )
Last seen: Last 10 minutes Bet: 68 , worth: 70
5 supply-centers, 9 units

Germany Draugnar (124 )
Last seen: Last 10 minutes, Votes: Draw Bet: 68 , worth: 126
9 supply-centers, 6 units


If you tally up all the worths, they add up to 476 D. The only times this varies from what you woul dget if the game ended right now is if the game ended in a draw (where everyone remaining gets an equal share) or if the winner has more than 18 SCs (they only get 18 SCs worht and the remaining gets split between the survivors).
Star Revil (276 D)
29 Aug 09 UTC
So how do you know how much 18SC's are worth in a game with 476 D?
djbent (2572 D(S))
29 Aug 09 UTC
are you thick? everyone has told you repeatedly.
Alderian (2425 D(S))
29 Aug 09 UTC
18SC's (a win) is worth 18/34ths of the pot. 476 * 18 / 34 = 252.

Unless of course someone is CD and that country has not been taken over which is fairly common for some 1 or 2 center countires. It is really 18 / (number of centers not in civil disorder.)
jarrah (185 D)
30 Aug 09 UTC
What happens if someone wins ALL 34 SC's? Don't tell me it can't happen, it is theoretically possible... :-)

Star Revil (276 D)
30 Aug 09 UTC
Jarrah, in theory it is possible, but it's not realistic ;P
It's too much luck dude ;P
Star Revil (276 D)
30 Aug 09 UTC
And: You'd need 17 units that could take a supply center, in 1 turn.
But I understand it now, thanks guys! ;D


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airborne (154 D)
29 Aug 09 UTC
On the brink of war
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=13060
36h, 20dp, PPSC
1 reply
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warhammer289 (100 D)
29 Aug 09 UTC
The war to end all wars-2
this game will be 8 hours so if you like fast games come here
0 replies
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Star Revil (276 D)
29 Aug 09 UTC
Message System
I think the message system isn't really as it should be.
9 replies
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Silver Wolf (9388 D)
29 Aug 09 UTC
Doubt on rules
A fleet in Gulf of Bothnia can support another fleet from Norway to Peters.
I am sure it can if in Norway it's a tank, but I think if it's 2 fleets it's not possible.
Can someone confirm or dismiss this?
20 replies
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tailboarder (100 D)
29 Aug 09 UTC
curious questions
I've read the FAQ section and think I get most of the concepts here.

33 replies
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Alderian (2425 D(S))
18 Aug 09 UTC
School of War 1 - End of Game Statements
19 replies
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Tantris (2456 D)
29 Aug 09 UTC
New Public Press game
48 hour - 50 D - WTA - Public Press only, no private negotiation.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=13063
0 replies
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Attavior (1677 D)
29 Aug 09 UTC
Live Game Today (3:00 EST)

Any interest in a live game this afternoon? I can start as early as 1:30 EST. I am hoping to play for about 3-5 hours from the time be begin.

24 replies
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rlumley (0 DX)
28 Aug 09 UTC
Metagaming Tourney
I think it would be funny to create a mini-tourney where metagaming is not only allowed, but encouraged and endorsed. Have some friends? Tell them so sign up! Pissed cause some guy stabbed you last game? Give him hell!
12 replies
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redcrane (1045 D)
29 Aug 09 UTC
Live game... for the umpteenth time.
does anyone want to join?
you might have noticed the number of live games I try to make or the number of forum posts I make about live games...
but really.
6 replies
Open
I can haz a cheezburger?
One more needed.

1 reply
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Crazyter (1335 D(G))
29 Aug 09 UTC
Live Game for 72 Hours
...well amost live. 15-min phases but timer will be set for 8-hours for sleeping. Game will last 3 days total, after that everyone must draw.
2 replies
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Plastic Hussar (1375 D(B))
29 Aug 09 UTC
Rust Never Sleeps
Do you?
New game: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=13052
75 pt bet, 20 hr turns, PPSC
See you there (especially if you are a Neil Young fan)
1 reply
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kestasjk (95 DMod(P))
29 Aug 09 UTC
The inserting orders problem
After an update optimizing order caching and getting 0.9 ready for public release there was a bug in the footer code. When any bug gets detected all changes are rolled back in case the bug caused any data corruption, which in this case rolled back valid changes to orders, which meant orders didn't save any submitted changes.

The bug has now been fixed, and next phase times have been extended to ensure no-one misses their orders because of it. Thanks for reporting the problem
4 replies
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Serioussham (446 D)
29 Aug 09 UTC
MOD HELP REQUIRED-IN THE NEXT 4 HOURS
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=12941
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=12940

every time i finalize my moves and and click on a different game my moves are reset as if i hadn't done anything, also it keeps showing me that i have messages when i have already read them! Help please and Thanks in advance!
5 replies
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WarMaster7 (100 DX)
29 Aug 09 UTC
MOD's - Problem to insert moves
Hi,
i insert my moves and update and finalize then, but when swap into an other game my orders are gone. Is there a system problem?
Please help, i have to enter soon.
10 replies
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Iggy (753 D)
29 Aug 09 UTC
Un finalized doesn't work anymore. You cannot change orders!!!!!!!!
damn
1 reply
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
29 Aug 09 UTC
The Roma- HOW?
HOW is the mistreatment of these people still going on? HOW do these folks keep going with all of this? HOW is there no great Roma State? HOW is there so little help and so little outrage?

20 replies
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Acosmist (0 DX)
29 Aug 09 UTC
New game: 36-hour phases, 50-point buy-in, WTA
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=13057

password: password
0 replies
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The_Master_Warrior (10 D)
28 Aug 09 UTC
What goes around comes around
New game, 36 hour phases, 75 (D)s to enter. PPSC (obviously). New to mildly experienced players only please.
2 replies
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spyman (424 D(G))
29 Aug 09 UTC
Chat Achive - could this be switched around?
I think is excellent that we can now read all messages from the games we have played. One thing though the messages appear in reverse, with the most recent message appearing at the top, and the first message at the bottom. I think it would be better if this was switched around.
2 replies
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Bonotow (782 D)
28 Aug 09 UTC
New Game - Never miss a move
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=13046
70 D to share
24h, PPSC
password: CDsucks
5 replies
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amonkeyperson (100 D)
28 Aug 09 UTC
Drawing Glitch
inside....

7 replies
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Acosmist (0 DX)
28 Aug 09 UTC
Potential premature victory "bug"?
This game is making me wonder. http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=12640
3 replies
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DJEcc24 (246 D)
27 Aug 09 UTC
please join this sight for more diplomacy and a south america map!
dip.xbsd.kr


this is the korean diplomacy. it also has a map of south america you can play. it is set up the same as this sight and is in english too. if you join this sight you would not be multi accounting either even though both sights look alike. i encourage all to join this alternate sight as well because it only has about 15 active games going.
24 replies
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rlumley (0 DX)
27 Aug 09 UTC
Bug in Messages
See inside.
4 replies
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DJEcc24 (246 D)
28 Aug 09 UTC
tournaments
how do you get entered?
1 reply
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Zman (207 D)
28 Aug 09 UTC
New, but very excited
Ive been playing the board game for 20 years, but recently moved and cant find a new quorum of players. Hence, am very excited to find this site. But how do I find a game to join? If i click on "open games" I just get a weird message.

39 replies
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Splat (131 D)
28 Aug 09 UTC
3 players defeated, 1 play left 3 players vote to draw why isn't it drawing?
the game is http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=12682

I'm not sure if there's someone I should send this directly to..
but my understanding was that a player that shows up as left doesn't affect the voting?
2 replies
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