Let's see the dance.

Well the premise of this strategy is for the paranoid french player who thinks everyone is after him.

This I personally think should only be applied if after communicating with your neighbors you feel as if one or more of them have got it out for you. This strat will let you defend all your home SC's while still getting some Nuetral SC's for building.

The main moves(varying possible) is F Brest - MAO Paris -Gascony Marsielles - Hold

As you can prolly tell the main preformer in this dance is the army in gascony. From there, if you have an enemy coming from Italy, you can move marsielles to Spain and have Gascony bounce in Marsielles. From Germany, have marsielles hold and Gascony bounce in Paris. From England, Bounce in Brest. All the while your fleet in MAO should be capturing Portugal and you should then build in which ever SC your enemy is closest too.

Variants are possible in case you have more then one enemy coming at you but I imagine duirng the first year it will only be maxed at 2 enemies (if your communcating correctly) which is defendable with this stretegy.


The only downside, is your army in gacony is only being used for defence and is rather lame after 02.


Opinions?



PS soz about the message being so far from the original post, had to go help my mom with something.

If you are paranoid about Germany you tell them that you are moving to Burgundy. That should be enough to arrange a bounce. If you are paranoid about Italy do the same with piedmont, although rarely does Italy go to Piedmont and ever more rarely does he follow up wih an attack on Marsailles (its usually to support into Tyrolia).
As for England, well just tell him Germany is gunning for him. Should keep him out of the Channel.

France has one of the easiest times protecting and gaining centers. I don't think I've ever gained less than 2.

Still :P

I s'pose, I guess this is more for people who logged on 20 minutes before phase end and weren't able to communicate properly.

The gascony opening is an anti English opening. You plan on convoying into Portugal and walking into Spain with Marsailles. Then build F. Brest. This way you don't have to waste a turn getting back into the Mid. Atl. You can just support into channel or better yet, if England doesn't build F. London, take the channel and Irish Sea.

Well, I hadn't thought of that but it is a good idea xD

I really don't get why I'm a "mastermind" but the only strats U know are the austrian hedgehog and the lepanto/bluewater lepanto.

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me?

ah. Well I'm still learning to. Ain't no perfect way to go about it because even retarded moves can be the right moves with the right words.

Or retarted words mixed with retarted moves xD thats how I won my big game xD

no one figured I would move to such stupid places.

I'm still trying to figure out what the worst possible opening could be in a game. Probably Russia
A Warsaw-Prussia
A Moscow-Livonia.
F.St. Pet-Finland
F.Sevas-Armenia.

Given you aren't allowed to bounce yourself

Worst opening is for England

Just move all your units nort west

Why would you say you aren't allowed to bounce yourself? I do it all the time.

Draugnar: That's in the context of his previous post-- the worst opening without bouncing yourself (or, presumably, an NMR).

Yeah

woooo's got it right. It's very useful in keeping MAO in the MAO so quick off the bat to launch an attack against England.

Well lame, I wanted to think up my own opening xD

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=7880

scroll back a few moves.

I think England moving all North-West (Clyde, Wales and North Atlantic) is far worst than any self bounce.

nice :O but I would've held Marseilles in case of Italian/German interference.

If I can't schedule a bounce in Bur or Pied I like to go to Marsailles. That way if one of htem moves there anyway I can bounce them in Marsailles and finish up in Spain anyway. I know theres a chance they won't go to Marsailles but I find it to be an easier decision going back to Marsailles then deciding if I should leave it after they attack pied or Bur

There is an opening called the French Slingshot that starts with the move to Gascony and holding Marseilles (either directly or through an agreed bounce in Bur?Pied). In the Fall the French convoy Gascony to Portugal.
This works best in fact with an agreed bounce so that you tell the English that you are convoying because you were expecting to be in Burgundy and was not etc.
then you build Fleet Brest and Fleet Marseilles typically.
In the Spring 02 you order
F Mid-NAT
F Bre-Mid
Por holds
Spa-Gas
F Mar-Spa sc
and in the fall you convoy Army Portugal to Liverpool
while Gascony is used to cover Brest if the English went to the Channel.
The whole idea here is to get an army onto the British Isles uncontested into Liverpool .
You need some more work with the Germans and the Russians which I do not want to go into here, but it is a variation on the theme of going two armies south for France.

I like safer and more sturdy variations. I don't build in Marsailles as to not tick of Italy. If England builds in London I'd probably enjoy a bounce in the channel and move to Irish sea. Should get you Lvp regardless and if England is able to defend it it probably means you get the channel. Then it just takes some work to convince Germany that Belgium will do you more good.

I personally would just use the strat for defense even though you could do a Tunis convoy if Italy is busy with Austria.

**North African convoy to Take Tunis the next year if you want to fight vrs Italy instead of England.