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Leon Rey17 (1838 D)
14 Jan 09 UTC
Reply to the Currency
Daggers-simple, fitting, recommended by the greatest, Edi Birsan. It's official, from here on D will now be Daggers(note the air of arrogance from my statement).
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Fidobot (100 D)
12 Jan 09 UTC
Quote
"A diplomat is a man who always remembers a woman's birthday but never remembers her age." -Robert Frost
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wooooo (926 D)
14 Jan 09 UTC
Very Fast Game
Anyone up for a very fast game? 1 hour phases? Now or later.
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Zilph (100 D)
14 Jan 09 UTC
New Diplomacy "System"
This is a piece I wrote that was inspired by the article in Diplomacy World 104 about the Central Powers System. It proposes what I believe is a new way of thinking about the Diplomacy board, or at least a way that hasn't been expressed in these terms before. Let me know what you think.
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danikine74 (167 D)
14 Jan 09 UTC
Retreats

It sounds a bit strange that a unit retreating would be able to conquer a new province...
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Pandarsenic (1485 D)
13 Jan 09 UTC
An odd thought
In Spring '01, you're doing something wrong if everyone doesn't think you're on their side.
In Fall '01, you're doing something wrong if everyone still thinks you're on their side.
Agree/Disagree?
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figlesquidge (2131 D)
13 Jan 09 UTC
Russian Gas
Hi all. I don't know much about the issue, and living in the UK I would guess most of the news has rather an anti-Russian bias to it. Most of what I've read has been implying that Russia is trying to blackmail Europe into paying higher rates for gas. How's, or indeed is, this being reported in other parts of the world?
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LitleTortilaBoy (124 D)
14 Jan 09 UTC
Can the Baltic Sea support into Kiel?
See title.
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airborne (154 D)
14 Jan 09 UTC
Disaster! what next?
I'm asking anyone what should you do after a complete disaster.
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xcurlyxfries (0 DX)
13 Jan 09 UTC
The Dance of France (Opener)
I dunno if this opener has been thought of before( most likely) but I giured I would post it since it would seem to work.

Contructive feedback would be great.
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Kompole (546 D)
14 Jan 09 UTC
Very fast game- JOIN!
1 hour per turn
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Jacob (2466 D)
13 Jan 09 UTC
2 billion orders?
I don't think so...
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TURIEL (205 D)
14 Jan 09 UTC
**********NEED TWO PLAYERS*********
Game: Herald Of The Gods.
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TURIEL (205 D)
14 Jan 09 UTC
********SEEKING PLAYERS FOR NEW GAME********
Game name: Herald Of The Gods. 24hr phases. Game will start as soon as the 7th player joins.
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EdiBirsan (1469 D(B))
13 Jan 09 UTC
Starting a game... a commitment
On another website before a player starts a game he has to agree to a statement of intent . Do you think this would help especially with the youngsters here?
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Centurian (3257 D)
13 Jan 09 UTC
Refusal to Pause
I've been trying to get my games paused so I can go on a trip this week and some people haven't voted for pauses yet (despite logging on). I'm not accusing anyone of malicious intent, but it brings up a hypothetical question. What happens if someone refuses to pause because you are killing them? Is that not-allowed? Is it simply frowned upon? Is it a legitimate tactic?
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flashman (2274 D(G))
13 Jan 09 UTC
Would you cheat to win?
And if so, how would you define 'cheat'?
flashman (2274 D(G))
13 Jan 09 UTC
I recall a long long thread in another life on another Forum about lying. One artist came up with the position that by telling something that is not true you are actually lying. My own position was more in the direction that to repeat an untruth without knowing that it is not true does not make you a liar...

I mention this because I wonder how you would define cheat. For example, a player accidentally leaves his notepad open on a table in a Face-to-Face game and you see his orders. You did not look deliberately and did not dwell on them but you saw enough to give you an advantage. Would using this information constitute cheating?
aoe3rules (949 D)
13 Jan 09 UTC
@flashman: No, it would constitute idiocy, as he obviously left it out there on purpose.
Akroma (967 D)
13 Jan 09 UTC
nope, as long as you did not actively try to get these orders by looking at hise notepad, and just randomly stumbled across it, it is good information

of course, the word random can be redifined as you see fit
Centurian (3257 D)
13 Jan 09 UTC
I would avoid doing anything I definately wouldn't have done had I not seen the orders. However, if it was a case of a 50-50 choice then the orders would be impossible to ignore.
figlesquidge (2131 D)
13 Jan 09 UTC
I agree. Personally I think the definitions of cheating depend on the game itself and what you agree. On this site, I would say it is cheating to do something you couldn't do to another player. For example, if you're in a game with some people you know in real life, I would say that as well as metagaming/multiaccounting etc it would be cheating to go and look at their screen whilst they input their orders, because there is no way other opponents could do this to you. Thus with the limitations of the site, cheating over phpDiplomacy becomes impossible other than meta/multi's.

To answer you main question about the definition of cheating, I think that cheating takes two forms. First is the "real" cheating, which is things you can only do by exploiting the system and running different accounts. This would be impossible in the game, and anyone doing it is obviously doing it for the wrong reasons. Second is the "soft" cheating, which involves things like looking at people's orders, and can be considered in the same frame as trickery.
On this site arguable neither should occur, because either would be taking advantage of a situation that could not occur in favour of another player. In an face-to-face game however, as long as everyone agree's, you could allow cheating right up to the point of a Flying Dutchman
figlesquidge (2131 D)
13 Jan 09 UTC
In response to Centurian's point, I think aoe3's point comes into play. If you have allowed soft cheating, the odds are the other player knew exactly what he was doing, and has left a calculated list of faked moves.
xcurlyxfries (0 DX)
13 Jan 09 UTC
I never thought of doing that :O

I normally post my spring 01 moves just to get people cunfuzzled and figure they wouldn't believe em but posting fake moves may be a turning point in my game
fortknox (2059 D)
13 Jan 09 UTC
As someone who cheated in online video games long ago, I can say you do get a rush from being dominant in a game, but you soon realize that you'd like to lose once in a while.
Seriously. Sometimes the challenge is being able to win after losing a whole bunch... and let me tell you, that's a better rush than dominating by cheating.

As far as the orders left on the table, I'd return it to the player and tell him he may want to change his orders, as some might have seen them. He may change, he may not. You can predict he may change or not. Adding that randomness makes for a much better game...

You want to beat players on a level field. If they are being dumb either don't play with them or even the field, yourself.

My $5.43 (inflation is killer!)
StaggerLee (100 D)
13 Jan 09 UTC
Although I have to say that there are unusually few reasons for one to cheat in diplomacy. If I cheat in computer games it's usually because I feel unfairly treated by the circumstances of the game. In Diplomacy you only got yourself to blame in most cases.
trim101 (363 D)
13 Jan 09 UTC
if you cheat in a video game against other people our scum as your ruining it for other people, if you cheat in diplomacy its all fair
StaggerLee (100 D)
13 Jan 09 UTC
Well, I don't know how to cheat at multplayer anyway. I'm referring to situations like your level six heavy infantry getting run over by level one scout cavalry in RTW. ;)
trim101 (363 D)
13 Jan 09 UTC
o i see what you mean
Jacob (2466 D)
13 Jan 09 UTC
I'm surprised to hear people say they wouldn't use the orders on the notebook. Have you guys read the rulebook for this game?

On PAGE ONE it goes on and on about how it is perfectly acceptable to lie, eavesdrop, let some write orders for you so they know what you are doing but then secretly give someone else your real orders to put in for you, etc.

So, I would not 'cheat' to win. But you are right to ask what the definition of cheating is.

EdiBirsan (1469 D(B))
13 Jan 09 UTC
Cheating in Face to Face tournaments is usually restricted to or defined around the Order Box. Things like
1, Taking someone elses orders out of the box so that they NMR
2. Taking someone's orders out and looking at them
Note orders left on the table or elsewhere are usually off limits socially but not within the confines of cheating
3. Messing with someone's orders in the box, for example a player keeps some one's old set of orders and then puts it in the box with his own so that targeted player has two sets of orders in and if he has not dated his orders a potential for conflict.
4, Messing around with votes to end the game which comes in the general category of Deception of the Tournament Director
5. Deception of the Tournament director
aoe3rules (949 D)
13 Jan 09 UTC
Whether it was cheating or not, I would typically just avoid doing anything that is morally "wrong". But if I'm desperate, maybe. Although that's rare as it's just a game.
xcurlyxfries (0 DX)
13 Jan 09 UTC
The only time I ever cheated was when someone used a glitched custom hero in BFME2, I would disconnect and prevent them from taking a win.
mksm0k3 (0 DX)
14 Jan 09 UTC
Well cheating in on this site would be playing on the same map with multiple accounts.
Pandarsenic (1485 D)
14 Jan 09 UTC
"I'm surprised to hear people say they wouldn't use the orders on the notebook."

That shit is clearly planted, my friend.


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Pandarsenic (1485 D)
12 Jan 09 UTC
Philcore made me LOSE THE GAME
http://losethegame.com/

And that's why we don't do Sioraf -1: it makes me lose The Game.
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christfuhrer (100 D)
13 Jan 09 UTC
Join this Game. Would be appreciated
Killing is my business... and business is good
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mwalton (2561 D)
10 Jan 09 UTC
Can a moderator please unpause gameID=7812
This game has been paused since the outage and we clearly have a CD in the game that is causing it to stay paused. Thanks!
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Jacob (2466 D)
13 Jan 09 UTC
NEW GAME: On Earth is not His Equal
101 point buy-in, 36 hour phases, WTA
All that plus: Free burritos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=8030
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alumbrados (100 D)
12 Jan 09 UTC
How does a country go into CD?
How does a country go into CD?
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Lord Alex (169 D)
13 Jan 09 UTC
Your comments, cheats, glitches, and misc. here for Fallout three
Yay Brotherhood of Steel!!
(i should have made my name more game related) :(
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kaisertimothy (239 D)
13 Jan 09 UTC
real quick game?
i am home sick for probably two days. Would anybody be interested if I started a game a 1 hr/stage?
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wee_alex (1330 D)
13 Jan 09 UTC
Admin: I need to leave a game
I need to be removed from a game (http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=8026), as there is a conflict that I need to address OOG. I don't want to throw the game from the very beginning, and the first turn hasn't taken place. Can anyone advise on how this could be done (I'm germany, BTW)?
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Galvorte (516 D)
13 Jan 09 UTC
Can Mods Please Draw Game ID#7771
Has been paused since a multi was found to be playing several countries in the game, remaining players decided to draw due to the influence of the multi making the game's results questionable. Unfortunately someone who joined as a replacement player for one of the removed multis has not logged on since joining (a week now) and since the game is paused, there's no CD to take care of it or anything.
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airborne (154 D)
13 Jan 09 UTC
Possible Mutli
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=7952
wooo and I have found a wield England. Who in both games where he is England he orders. F Edi-Nth and F Lon-Nth.
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amroth (275 D)
13 Jan 09 UTC
Can a moderator please draw game id=6441
All four players have entered /draw. However one of the players (Turkey)has the game paused and just announced he would be gone for 3 weeks. I'm Italy - I'll try to get England and France to confirm here in the forum.
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Ursa (1617 D)
13 Jan 09 UTC
Bouncing and support.
Message below.
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rratclif (0 DX)
13 Jan 09 UTC
Mods, please help
I joined a game by accident (took over CD Russia, clicked on take over instead of 'Open Game'), can the mods remove me from the game? I'm at my (personal) limit for how many games I want to play at once so I won't be able to pay any attention to this one really. I'd like there to be a chance for someone else to take it sooner than I could let it go CD.
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