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Blackheath Wanderer (0 DX)
04 Sep 08 UTC
Cern
The End of the World on Wednesday or just the beginning of the next one?
0x44 (100 D)
04 Sep 08 UTC
If you're referring to the Large Hadron Collider, it destroyed the world last month during the test. We haven't noticed, though, because they haven't yet released their data.
Zarathustra (3672 D)
04 Sep 08 UTC
Both. In a strange twist of events, the LHC destroys the universe while simultaneously creating one just like it.
WhiteSammy (132 D)
04 Sep 08 UTC
no the end of the world is December 22, 2012 according to the Mayans
WhiteSammy (132 D)
04 Sep 08 UTC
we've got a while
kestasjk (95 DMod(P))
04 Sep 08 UTC
I trust the particle physicists when they say this thing isn't going to destroy the world. I think that stuff just distracts from the interesting results they're going to find

Check out the LHC rap for a nice summary of what the LHC is about, if you haven't already
flashman (2274 D(G))
05 Sep 08 UTC
Why isn't Pandora over there with bricks. The LHC has a lot of wealthy owners.
Chrispminis (916 D)
05 Sep 08 UTC
"Find the Higgs Boson or destroy the world trying." - Particle physicists around the world whose entire career depends on this.

Goodbye everyone. =(
sean (3490 D(B))
05 Sep 08 UTC
what`s the fear? are some people worried they will create a black hole on earth?

or some kind of space and time distorting vortex of tachyon particles ...oh wait that`s star trek. why cant sci fi shows actually employ real scientists to help them write their scripts? then we could learn something while we watch babylon5 seasons of babylon 5! (just finished downloading season 1-5)
Thucydides (864 D(B))
05 Sep 08 UTC
Newton said the world will end in 2066. I'm sticking with that.
MajorTom (4417 D)
05 Sep 08 UTC
sean, actually star terk envisioned many products which have come to pass in some form. the concept of the cell phone and black berry was introduced and mainstreamed by star trek
mps247 (100 D)
05 Sep 08 UTC
I didn't see this topic until just now, otherwise I would have answered. Let me introduce myself:

Yes, I am a particle physicist.
Yes, I will be at CERN on that date.
No, I am not part of the LHC experiment - there are plenty of experiments at CERN, and the LHC just so happens to be the biggest, but I don't work on it.
No, we are not all going to die when they hit the switch - we don't have the technology to make those sorts of "particles" yet!
mps247 (100 D)
05 Sep 08 UTC
So, anybody whose worrying, please stop. It's my life on the line too!
aoe3rules (949 D)
05 Sep 08 UTC
mps: what if they're feeding you mininformation, so you will tell this to the public and their funding will continue? well?!? what then!?!?!?

WE'RE ALL DOOMED!
mps247 (100 D)
05 Sep 08 UTC
Oh no! I hadn't thought about that!!! They're lying to me!
mps247 (100 D)
05 Sep 08 UTC
... Wait! aoe3rules, it's alright! They can't be lying, because there will nothing to fund if we all die!

... But you raise a very good point - what if we've already been screwed over for funding, and we are going to take the World with us as revenge?!?

Be very afraid...
kestasjk (95 DMod(P))
05 Sep 08 UTC
Is it true that the first beam was put off due to the Olympics?
flashman (2274 D(G))
05 Sep 08 UTC
mps... if you are a particle physicist, why isn't your number mps137?
Fidobot (100 D)
06 Sep 08 UTC
I would say it has already destroyed the universe, but we didn't notice, being sucked directly into a parallel universe where canute gets discovered. I believe that's when the universe got destroyed.
But what if the whole thing is run a bunch of crazed Scientists who would not mind dieing if at the moment of death they could look at the LHC henceforth to be known as the Black-hole-o-maker and know that they had been proved right!
cgwhite32 (1465 D)
06 Sep 08 UTC
Kestas - apparently the scientists have delayed the start not due to the Olympics, but so that Andrew Marr (British BBC broadcaster) could be there to film it. It would have been last week, but Marr was on holiday in Devon...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4677687.ece

mps247 (100 D)
06 Sep 08 UTC
Well, the LHC was due to turn on in 2005, so there have been a number of delays. I'm afraid I don't know the exact reason why, as I don't work on the experiment, but I can make some enquiries. However, the delay could have been just for publicity reasons - this is the biggest experiment in particle physics, and most of us work on it, so we want the World to know about it.

It doesn't sound unreasonable that the delay would be due to the Olympics, although Andrew Marr, no matter how good a correspondant he is, sounds a little dodgy.

@flashman: are you talking about the fine structure constant alpha? I would have though my number should be mps511, as this is the rest mass of the electron in natural units.
flashman (2274 D(G))
06 Sep 08 UTC
Yes, and perhaps,

but 137 was reckoned to be the most common number used on brief case combination locks (137 - 137) at physics conferences...

And it is a cool number. I have a sheet somewhere showing how to achieve it using pi, e and i in various combinations. It was also the age of the universe last time I read anything worthwhile on it (13.7 bn years) although I reckon the number was massaged a bit for the purpose.
mps247 (100 D)
06 Sep 08 UTC
Ah, I see. Very interesting. I must admit that I didn't know all of that. I've never been to a conference where this number is used though, but at one of the conference centres the password to use the wireless network was '511eV/c2', which is a number a particle physicist is not able to forget. It was the only time I had ever seen a password being needed to access the wireless network at a conference. We're not so secretative - we publish in the public domain.
Chrispminis (916 D)
06 Sep 08 UTC
Well, it's just a pity that none of you will be around for me to say "I told you so".

But seriously, I'm interested in the results of the experiment, and despite my natural aversion and suspicion of particle physicists. I'm sure that it will all work out well. The real question is whether it's worth the money. =)
kestasjk (95 DMod(P))
06 Sep 08 UTC
This a good quote from a BBC article I read today:
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The final tab for the LHC is expected to come in at a colossal 6.4bn euros, four times the original budget set by the Cern Council in 1995.

But that sum still represents good value for money, according to Dr Chris Parkes, of Glasgow University, UK, who works on the LHCb detector.

He said: "Tom Hanks is to appear in the movie of Dan Brown's Angels and Demons, which involves scientists at Cern making anti-matter. But the new experiment at the LHC to understand anti-matter cost less than Tom Hanks will earn from the movie."
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7595855.stm
mps247 (100 D)
06 Sep 08 UTC
Thanks for the link Kestas - it makes very interesting reading. I had no idea that 'Angels and Demons' had such a high budget! I remember one of my colleagues, who used to make frequent trips to CERN, laughed all the way through - I got the idea that a lot of things mentioned were in the realms of artistic licence. I've never read it, so I can't say what my opinion is.

Chrispminis, when Thomson discovered the electron, his favourite toast was, "To the electron - may it never be of any use to anybody". He was under the impression that the particle was completely useless, and even wrote (I looked this up as I didn't know the actual quotation), "Could anything at first sight seem more impractical than a body which is so small that its mass is an insignificant fraction of the mass of an atom of hydrogen".

However, Thomson was wrong about this assumption! Without the discovery of the electron, our World today would be very different! For starters, there would be no cathode-ray tubes, so no computer monitors or TV. Electric current is carried by electrons, so its discovery was essential for all electronic devices!

Thomson could not see its potential, and I have difficulty seeing the potential of the work we do now. However, perhaps in 100 years time, the new physics discovered at the LHC will find a use.


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Ivo_ivanov (7545 D)
05 Sep 08 UTC
Request to check for multi-accounting
Hello Kestas.

Please, can I ask you to check the game http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5294 and more especially the players Leon Rey17 (http://phpdiplomacy.net/profile.php?userID=6348) and Nephilm (http://phpdiplomacy.net/profile.php?userID=7764)

Apologies if this turns out to be nothing.
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amathur2k (100 D)
06 Sep 08 UTC
a unit under attack cant support a hold elsewhere rgiht ?
But the opposite has happened in this game
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5407

bohemia was moving to tyrr and yet the unit at tyrr supported a hold at trieste how is that possible ?
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Fast game
Fast game starting where everyone will try the very very best not to go into CD even when they lose the odd SC.

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5529
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DeliciousWolf (112 D)
05 Sep 08 UTC
Did McCain's Speech convince you to vote for him?
Must have watched it to answer!
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I would like to know how we can force to be in civil disorder?
I would like to know how we can force to be in civil disorder?
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xgongiveit2ya55 (789 D)
05 Sep 08 UTC
A Public Announcement
Dear Feckless Clod,

As promised, here is a formal statement regarding your game "Grab Your Partners" (not sure if innuendo is was intended). The game has ended in a crushing landslide victory by the solo kid, Harry Noballs.

Best Wishes,
xgongiveit2ya55

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5068
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Darwyn (1601 D)
27 Aug 08 UTC
Rank System - RANKS!
I posted this in the Rank system vote thread, but I think it will get looked over, so I've copy and pasted it below. If we can implement an ELO system without having to eliminate the point system, this is what it might look like...
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Blackheath Wanderer (0 DX)
03 Sep 08 UTC
President Palin or Biden?
They would be a heartbeart away from the job after all...
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flashman (2274 D(G))
04 Sep 08 UTC
Okay, something straight out of Proust here...
Be indulgent and suggest the perfect diner party menu:

food and drinks

memories of things past even...
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Yaniv (1323 D(S))
04 Sep 08 UTC
I need a favour from someone in the UK
My company is setting up operations in Britain. I've secured two freephone (toll free) numbers and need to test that they are working right, but a test can only be effected from within the UK and I know of no one who can do this for me.

If you're in the UK and are willing to telephone two freephone numbers for me, just to verify that they ring through properly, I would be most appreciative.

Drop me an e-mail at [email protected] and I'll provide you this the freephone numbers.

And thanks. Yaniv
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valoishapsburg (314 D)
04 Sep 08 UTC
The Thread That Has No Topic
In response to Whitesammy's believe that all threads go off topic
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Yaniv (1323 D(S))
05 Sep 08 UTC
Is there a way to disband a unit (ex: fleet) in order to be able to build an army?
Is there a way to disband a unit (ex: fleet) in order to be able to build an army?
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Tetra0 (1448 D)
03 Sep 08 UTC
Strangest game ever?
What is going on in this game? any participating players care to enlighten me?

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4651
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WhiteSammy (132 D)
04 Sep 08 UTC
Just for Kicks and Jiggles
*******************THIS IS IN NO WAY TO BECOME A********************* *****POLITICAL/RELIGIOUS/PERSONAL PREFERENCE DEBATE******


*and yes i took the time to line that^^^ up
anyways....

Since i have always wondered what makes people think that something either has a 100% chance of being possible and shuns all those who dont think likewise or that something is completely impossible and cant believe that anyone in their right mind could believe something so far-fetched, I have a good one.
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po8crg (969 D)
02 Sep 08 UTC
Google Chrome
Google Chrome is a new browser; this site works fine in it.
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Ultimarory (100 D)
04 Sep 08 UTC
COME JOIN!
Come join this game!

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5513

I've never won a game and I am on 20 credits. You will probably beat me!
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Centurian (3257 D)
04 Sep 08 UTC
Ingame solution for multi-account?
I am strongly suspicious that france and turkey are the same person in a game I am playing:
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5374

This is based on past game history and France trying to talk me down from attacking Turkey (its 1902). I'm Italy in this game and it makes sense for me to avoid fighting france but to follow through with my stab on turkey. Assuming they aren't kicked off (which they should be) or until then what am I expected to do? This throw the game into an unfortunate loop.
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Skipped phase in "002b"?
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5460 That's the URL. I think the current phase should be Autumn 1902, but there's a chance that I'm horribly mistaken. It now lists the current phase as Spring 1903. Will somebody check on that and make sure I'm not crazy?
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xgongiveit2ya55 (789 D)
03 Sep 08 UTC
Support?
I know this has come up before, but here goes. I want to move a fleet in Constantinople to Bulgaria(sc) with support from the Black Sea. From what I've read in the forum in the past, this is a valid support. The game, however, does not give me the option to support a move to Bulgaria(sc); only Bulgaria and Bulgaria(nc). This is regarding a move that will be processed in 24 hours, so time is a factor for responses.
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
28 Aug 08 UTC
League entrants- Last Call
We have entered the final day for applications to the league system. There is place for one player more. If somebody drops out, then you may be able to take their place, so even if somebody has taken the place, you could still get in.

Please email me, (email in profile), including your phpdip name. Thank you.
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New Game, 26-point buy-in
It's called "No Civil Disorders, Please".
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Shardz (0 DX)
03 Sep 08 UTC
Possible bug in game 5406
In game #5406, 'the greatest game ever told', shouldn't Tyrolia's attack on Munich in Autumn of 1902 have cut Munich's attack on Burgundy? Maybe it's changed since I last played, or maybe I'm just crazy.

Could anyone shed some light on this?
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Archonix (246 D)
02 Sep 08 UTC
I might disappear for a few days
I'm sure many people have heard of the civil unrest here in Thailand incited by the PAD. There have been rumours that some protesters may attempt to cut Bangkok's power - if that happens I lose my access to the internet until it gets restored.

There was a clash between Government supporters and PAD protesters this morning and there was a death. The military did state that they would get involved soon afterwards. I do believe that since the rumours are so widespread that the military would be able to prevent it but I don't know for certain.

Anyways, my fingers are crossed that everything will be sorted out.
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Texas Kelly (100 D)
02 Sep 08 UTC
Surrendering
I'm GMing my first Diplomacy game in a while at another site, and I've received a request from one of my players that I'm not sure how to handle. The player in question has the low supply center count and is in a very precarious situation (current season is Summer 1904), and has requested that he surrender his territories and units to another nation that he is allied with rather than have them fall into the hands of the nations that are attacking him.

I know this isn't in the scope of the official rules, so I'm curious to know if there's any precedent for allowing something like this or not. (My inclination is to allow it, but I'd appreciate some direction from people more knowledgeable than myself.) :-)
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Yaniv (1323 D(S))
03 Sep 08 UTC
How do I delete d'Artagnan-2
I inadvertently created two new games when I only intended to create one
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Jann (558 D)
02 Sep 08 UTC
Superfast game!!
Hour-long shifts!!
hurry hurry hurry
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5490
just for fun
lol
10 point bet
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Blackheath Wanderer (0 DX)
01 Sep 08 UTC
Athens 1896: WTA game. 103 to join
Time to gamble those hard fought points of yours...
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kestasjk (95 DMod(P))
02 Sep 08 UTC
Password reset screwup
I was resetting someone's password when I screwed up a query, resetting everyone's password to the same thing. As luck would have it my local web server has screwed up thanks to an update which means I can't load the passwords from backup yet.

If you registered in the last few days unfortunately I don't have your password backed up, so you'll have to e-mail me at [email protected] so I can e-mail you a new password

Sorry for the inconvenience
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Imperator Dux (603 D(B))
02 Sep 08 UTC
25 Hours in a 24 hrs/ phase game?!
I don't know if it's just my computer, but it says that the phase ends in 25 hours in schnurstrax, a 24 hr/phase game.
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