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AviF (726 D)
10 Sep 13 UTC
New Game
I would like to start a new Full Press, WTA game with 48 hour phase lengths. I think the pot size should be 101 but I am flexible on that. Is anyone interested?
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mendax (321 D)
09 Sep 13 UTC
George Zimmerman arrested (again)
If only there were signs! If only there was some hint that he could behave violently with a gun! If only there was some way we could have known!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/09/george-zimmerman-taken-into-custody_n_3895388.html
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
09 Sep 13 UTC
ANYONE FROM DETROIT?
Anyone going to St. Jerome's Landowner Festival this weekend?
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Maniac (189 D(B))
04 Sep 13 UTC
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Another Syrian Post
Been buzzing around in my time machine....
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The Fox (115 D)
09 Sep 13 UTC
Looking for a replacement player for an Egypt with a decent start in Modern Map
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=125345&msgCountryID=4
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Mujus (1495 D(B))
09 Sep 13 UTC
I Need a Mod
I need a mod to take a look at some reason postings in the thread I maintain, the Daily Bible Reading because a player is posting extremely offensive material of a graphic sexual nature that is completely unrelated to the topic. I muted him, but want to know if this is permitted or if it can be deleted from the Forum.
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SYnapse (0 DX)
09 Sep 13 UTC
I need a God
I need a God to take a look at some reason postings in the prayers I maintain, the King James Bible because a neighbour is posting extremely offensive material of a graphic sexual nature that is completely unrelated to the topic. I forgave him, but want to know if this is permitted or if it can be deleted from the Universe.
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kaner406 (356 D)
09 Sep 13 UTC
Twilight Struggle
So I'm expecting this game to arrive by post soon (and pretty excited!) - any advice from anyone who has played this game?
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
09 Sep 13 UTC
NEW GAME JOIN RULES?
I just noticed a game that was pending start had 7 players and since a player has left. This used to not be possible. Is this a new feature or is it an error?
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tendmote (100 D(B))
08 Sep 13 UTC
Alas, Metternich's Fanclub
Alas, another game cancelled before completion.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
06 Sep 13 UTC
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The Return of NFL Pick 'em: Week 1 (Plus your picks for Playoff Teams + The Super Bowl!)
So a day late and seven Peyton TDs later--damn, he was great last night!--NFL Pick 'em is back...
So, besides the Broncos/Ravens game, pick the winners for the Week 1 match-ups...THEN pick your playoff teams (the 1-6 seeds for each conference) and then, of course...your Super Bowl match-up and champs.
So, NFL, Week 1...PICK 'EM!
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Lord Robin (130 D)
09 Sep 13 UTC
Looking players for new America game
Hi there ... looking for some beginner players to new America game - http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=125799

I haven't played this version before, so would be interested to learn the curves :-)
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Yonni (136 D(S))
06 Sep 13 UTC
Donations
Kestas makes mention of regular donors. Is there a way to sign up for regular monthly/yearly donations?
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ckroberts (3548 D)
08 Sep 13 UTC
Players wanted
We're looking for three more players.
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taos (281 D)
08 Sep 13 UTC
rank must be changed
How come you lose a few points and you are a political puppet when you were experienced before?
Experience can't be taken from you.
The same can happen but reversed,you may win one game and be expert.
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mendax (321 D)
05 Sep 13 UTC
Well, this could get interesting
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=45762&Cr=united+states&Cr1=#.UidHGzZQFqI

UN asks the USA to review the Trayvon Martin case.
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
08 Sep 13 UTC
Donation message won't disappear
That big message at the top keeps coming back. I've clicked the "Ssshhh" button at least 10 times already.
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Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
08 Sep 13 UTC
Gen. Lee St. Jude Memphis Marathon
See inside
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Emac (0 DX)
02 Sep 13 UTC
Welfare pays better than work in the US
A mother of two in New York is eligible for more in welfare benefits than starting salaries for school teachers in the state. Hawaii offered the most money to a mother of two, $60, 590 and Idaho the least $11,150. 33 states offer more in welfare than full-time minimum wage work earns.
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Paladin Hali (100 D)
07 Sep 13 UTC
Live Game
Live game is on. 5 min. or less. 5 bucks to chip in.

Live game-325. Sorry, I can't find out how to link it, but if you search, you can find it.
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JosephStalin (0 DX)
07 Sep 13 UTC
Please
3 person pleaseeee


http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=125723
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nudge (284 D)
06 Sep 13 UTC
Diplomacy - Australia 2013
So webdippers, a little exercise for you, using the Australian election map. Who takes victory? Can you game it out?
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iscarion (382 D)
05 Sep 13 UTC
Possible to modify the rythm of a game ?
Hi,
we just started a game between friends, but I configure the game with a too tight rythm. Is it possible to modify the number of days for each phase ?

thanks !
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SYnapse (0 DX)
06 Sep 13 UTC
Webdip in the red?
Is this due to:
communists
the Arab Spring
the constitution
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
01 Sep 13 UTC
The Christian Theory of Creation (of the Universe)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3MWRvLndzs

Just in case you didn't know...
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mlbone (112 D)
06 Sep 13 UTC
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going on honeymoon. Requesting sitter for 2 weeks? all gunboat small games
Very easy. 9 gunboat games where I am just shooting for draws. Would appreciate any help just so not to screw the games up.

Thanks!
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
22 May 13 UTC
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Official Thread for The School of War Intermediate Class 2013
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=118549#gamePanel
This thread is for professor commentary and public questions related to this game only.
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CSteinhardt (9560 D(B))
24 Jul 13 UTC
Spring 1906:

Sorry for the delay - I wrote something up earlier, and realized that I got something wrong in the tactics, so it was shoddy analysis. So, I'll try this again, and mention some of the interesting moves this turn:

French A Hol -> Kie:

I don't understand the tactics here for a couple of reasons. First off, let me point out that you could have forced Kiel in either of two ways:

1) Mun - Ber, Hol S HEL - Kie, NTH - Den (or Yor - Den, but then you need NWG S NTH as well).

2) Mun & Hol S HEL - Kie, NTH - Den (or Yor - Den, see above).

Both of these carry risk. In the first case, Ber S Kie - Mun is a swap of Kie/Mun, except that it will be difficult for you to get Mun back. In the second case, you can prevent the risk to Mun with Bur S Mun, but then allow a retreat to Ruhr (if you order Bur - Ruh, it carries the same risk of losing Munich). Germany does have proper tactics in response (I would have loved to see SKA S Kie - Den, Den - HEL, Ber - Mun, GoB - BAL, for example), and this war will be a stalemate, as best I can tell, if played perfectly on all sides. But, the point is, you have a one-turn window to take Kiel and force Germany/Russia into a complex defense; if you don't take it this turn, and GoB is put into BAL and Pru is put into Sil, then it's probably dead drawn. So, make sure you take Kiel. As a general rule, if you have a cuttable support and an uncuttable support, use the uncuttable support. :)

Your current set of orders, on the other hand, was not guaranteed to succeed, and actually could have failed for two reasons. First, as I mentioned above, Germany can cut both HEL and Mun. But second, the most likely scenario, given his past moves, is that this particular Germany will continue his passive tactics, so you were most likely to see HEL and Ber S Kie. The problem is, your orders also didn't guarantee taking Kiel against that set of orders! A direct attack cuts a support, but if that attack is cancelled because the convoying unit is dislodged, then it doesn't. If you were going to use Yor - Den to cut the support, then you needed NWG S NTH. Otherwise, if it's power-1 anyway, just use NTH - Den; it gets dislodged just as easily in the face of a power-2 attack, but still cuts the support, and the only major downside I guess is that you might accidentally get into Denmark because Germany does something unexpected, and if that happens, it probably turns out okay. [As a general rule, something unexpected like that leads to chaos and chances for both sides, and if you're the power pushing for a solo, chaos usually works in your favor].

There's a second point here, though, which is that you really want a fleet, not army, in Kiel. What are the places an army can go from Kiel? Den, Ber, Mun, Ruh, Hol. And a fleet? Den, BAL, Ber, Hol, HEL. So, your army can go to Mun and Ruh now but not to BAL or HEL. Which of these places is it most likely to go? You have plenty of internal support, so definitely not Mun/Ruh. On the other hand, a fleet in the Baltic would be quite nice, and even the threat of a fleet in the Baltic is something Russia would be forced to react to.

German F Den S Russian SKA - NTH:

See above, really. You needed to make an inspired guess this turn, and if you got it right, you end up with a line, either a Mun/Ber line or a Kie/Ber line. You picked neither, and as a result, now you have two one-center powers that happen to have the same owner, essentially. Between this and the south, you're now expendable, and that's going to be...problematic. There is a decent chance England will now outlive Germany, but it's now clear that the north will eventually be split between F/R, not F/G/R. If you were going to try and put SKA into NTH, England needed to be giving the support, and you needed to be trying to defend Kiel. (Which, given the French tactical choices this turn, would have worked; along with GoB -> BAL, you would now likely have a place in the draw).

More to the point, though, consider whether you really want SKA in NTH. A quick digression: what is every player now hoping to get out of this game?

England: Survival is unlikely unless somebody gives you a gift, but the goal is to stick around, outlast some of your enemies, and maybe be able to influence the final outcome.

France: You'll be around at the end -- the goal is to find some way to get to 18.

Germany: Find a way to hold a critical position on a stalemate line, so that you cannot be cut out of a draw.

Italy: Find a way to hold a critical position on a stalemate line, so that you cannot be cut out of a draw.

Russia: You'll be around for the end, see if you can find a way to get to 18, although at the moment you're behind in the race against France.

Turkey: It's unlikely that you will be able to hold a critical position on a stalemate line, so instead try to hold a critical position where your non-interference is required for a stalemate line to exist.

So, the problem is that your survival really depends upon being the barrier between F and R, which means you really don't want R in the North Sea; you want F there, and you want your fleet in Denmark holding the line. If Russia were to move forward and the battle lines were drawn at, say, NTH/Hol vs. Bel/ENG, then you're going to be swallowed by Russia. So, don't support a move you really can't afford to succeed. :) You got unlucky that it did succeed, but it was avoidable.

Turkish F ION S Tun:

...and now you've got a line in the south, which makes Germany that much more expendable. Good decision by both of you; Italy now gets to hold a line (so he can't be cut out), and Turkey has the power to cut Italian supports and possibly throw France the solo if it looks like elimination is the alternative.

Italian F Nap - TYS:

Similarly, good recognition that you and Turkey are joined at the hip here.

Italian A Ven S Rom:

...but as before, I don't understand this. Rome is not under threat. Surely there is someplace else you'd rather put Venice. Piedmont's lovely this time of year. Tyrolia would let you actively help your Turkish ally or actively form a barrier around Munich (you really don't want France going to Tyrolia/Piedmont either, right?). Ven S Tri might be reasonable tactics if Turkey knows that support is available. You've only got four units -- make sure you use all four of them.

Turkish F Bul S AEG - Con:

This is an example, like the Russian tactics last turn, of the locally correct solution that creates later problems. F Bul(sc) is going to be a major problem for you now, because it cannot hit Rum. So, for example, Russia now can force Serbia with Vie - Tri, Rum S Bud - Ser. You can order Tri - Bud, so it's a bit of a guessing game (I won't spoil it for you by showing the full set of options; there are better and worse tactics here, and that's for you to decide this turn), but the point is, it's an unfair guessing game biased against you, and it would instead have been a fair guessing game with chances for both sides if you had an army there. Your alternatives would have been worse this turn, so this still might have been the best option, but in a Spring turn, it's always worth considering whether you can give up something short-term and get it back in the Fall. Note that if Italy were in Tyrolia now, the situation would also be greatly improved.

Russia:

I didn't really talk directly about your moves this turn, but I notice again that the unexpected moves on the board often seem to end up working out conveniently for you. It's difficult for me to know what's going on because I can't read the press, but I suspect you did a very good job this turn, and that some of what I discussed above didn't just happen to break conveniently for you by accident.

French Retreat: NTH -> Lon:

This one's likely to hurt you, quite possibly severely. I'll wait until next turn to talk about why, to avoid unduly biasing the outcome.



Most improved: I (by a wide margin), F (pre-retreats), R (including retreats)
Biggest decline: G
Bump nmr.
rs2excelsior (600 D)
29 Jul 13 UTC
bump.
hello? Is it me you're looking foooooor?
bump?
Draugnar (0 DX)
10 Aug 13 UTC
I haven't heard from my student in a long time.
cardcollector (1270 D)
16 Aug 13 UTC
bump
I was hoping this thread would get locked really. Depressing to have to check the echo chamber every turn. I don't even know if we still have professors, do we?
cardcollector (1270 D)
16 Aug 13 UTC
I don't even have a TA anymore.
Have you learned something from TA's and professors by now?
@card you have no need of a diplomacy much for the rest of your game so if you want you can talk to me about how your tactical plan on finishing the game looks like. If you would like me as a TA.
cardcollector (1270 D)
16 Aug 13 UTC
I definitely have learned plenty. I was just pointing out that I haven't had a TA for weeks. Not really complaining.
Would you like to have someone to consult with about the endgame or you want to finish the game by yourself alone?
cardcollector (1270 D)
16 Aug 13 UTC
I actually would like someone to consult every once in a while. And I'll take you up on that offer.
Ok then. I don't know if you need the permission from the dean but as soon as the mods allow it we can start. You should contact the one who is in charge here.
Pete U (293 D)
27 Aug 13 UTC
bump
Zenetar (225 D)
03 Sep 13 UTC
let's write EoGs. I can start if there are no more volunteers.
Zenetar (225 D)
06 Sep 13 UTC
okay.
I hope that Turkey at least is going to read it.

Early game:
I've picked up Russia at Spring 1901, one move after the start. I have a good record with Russia, mostly because I am able to establish key alliences in the beggining, and capitalize on this.
The guy who played Russia before me, made a huge mistake by moving Mos->Sev, Sev->Bla. I think that you either have to be Madmarx in disguise or be lucky to play vs bad opponent in order to break into BLA in S 1901.
My first goal was to establish peace with Turkey and convince Germany to let me into Sweden.
2nd build in Swe was my biggest win (in my opinion), but I feel that it was also France/Eng fault, cause they haven't proposed anything exact to Germany in 1901. There was a lot of messy talk in press in A 1901.
Before 1901 it was clear that there is some kind of anti-English allience. I tried to convince both Fr and Ger that I'm into Sealion, but I came up with idea to turn the tides and strike on Germany. We could have made it into Den in S 1902, but England wanted a diff set of moves. War->Sil was a distraction, I didn't plan to achieve much with this move.
In the south I was able to hide my Juggernaut with my activity in the north. I think that this was really good for me cause there was nothing in the press like 'Let's stop Juggernaut' or something like that (it's quite often happens although)
Italy was passive and from this point Austria was doomed.

Mid game:
Everything went according to my plans. There was a slight hiccup with Turkey getting Bud, but I was on good terms with T, so we solved in later on.
in 1903 I had an opportunity to stab Turkey with Italy's help and also support Italy into Munich. Crushing Germany and making a successful stab on T, would increase my solo chances greatly.
But Italy was very stubborn, he refused both opportunities and that mistake cost him the game.
I've decided to continue my work with T.
Because of Fr/Ger allience and failure to crush Ger, I was getting pushed back up to the point when France decided to stab Ger and go for solo.
In 1905 Germany and I decided to work together to stop French, but Germany for some reason didn't trust me so he went to Swe and later was consumed by French.
I've tried to stab Turkey because of my TA's advice, that didn't achieve anythign for me.
I was too late to go for solo, France would get it faster. So I had to stop my activity in south and make peace with T.

Late game.
Not much to say here. England did a really good job on making an anti-French coalition
and once we were sure that France was unable to progress, we went into draw negotiations.
Germany and Italy were defeated for this purpose.
At this moment Turkey decided that he could try solo, but with my lucky mistake in S1909 and extra build from England I made an impression on Turkey that he can't push further.
France and I were tired from this game and we pushed for a draw. Once Turkey abandoned his solo run (though he could try to grab a few SCs from me) he agreed on a draw.

Summary:
1)I was able to establish key alliences in the beginning but overestimated Juggernaut.
2)My tactics were not that precise. I still have to do a lot of work on that. That's why I decided to play a bunch of gunboats for now.
3)I don't have an ability to convince such stubborn players like Italy. Dunno how to fix that.
4)In some key moments of the game, I lack strategic vision and ability to predict what's gonna happen next turn. Also (I believe it falls into the same category) my 'geographical' analysis isn't great. For example, no matter how many fleets I built in the north, I wasn't able to achieve much. Proffessors pointed that out, but I didn't believe them till I tested it on myself.
5)Overall this SoW was a really good experience for me. Testing myself in an 'intermediate' enviroment was a bit of challenge for me.

Regarding SoW:
I didn't quite understand how TA can help me and what I can learn from them. My TA has gone semi/almost inactive till the middle of the game, and before it his messages were like "You are doing good, not much to say", but once I met Fr/Ger allience in 1904-1905 I didn't recieve much help. An advice to stab Turkey at that moment was a blunder in my opinion.

Thanks for all the players and professors participating in this SoW.
I wanna thank all of you, but especially TheMinisterofWar (for establishing anti-Fr coalition and literally being my TA at the end of the game) and stefanodangello for being a loyal and cooperative ally.




Zenetar (225 D)
06 Sep 13 UTC
I've made some mistakes/typos in this long post. Sorry for that.
Nice read Zenetar. Not sure if I feel inspired enough by this game to write something, but I'll try in the next few days, if only because you made such a nice effort.


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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
05 Sep 13 UTC
Obi, Where are you?
You always start off our football seasons with some wonderful predictions.
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
18 Aug 13 UTC
political compass?
Where do YOU fall?
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Draugnar (0 DX)
04 Sep 13 UTC
Because Jamie just can't get enough of my first week of school...
Here is my opening post for the second forum topic - The Challenges and Rewards of Social Entrepreneurships. Several poople posted before me so I only tackled previously unbroached topics.
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