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keeper0018 (100 D)
10 Mar 09 UTC
how to change your email address
how do you do it?
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Cloths of Heaven (100 D)
11 Mar 09 UTC
new game
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9345

200-point pot so far... will start in 12 hr
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nitish (2087 D(S))
11 Mar 09 UTC
CD France in great position
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9257

6 centers, currently the second-most of any country; secure borders and room for growth. Great game for a beginner to learn the ropes, or for anyone who enjoys playing France and has ~45 points to spare.
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SILK SPECTRE: New 15-hour game
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9348
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Chalks (488 D)
11 Mar 09 UTC
Retreating
if I'm forced to retreat, I can choose to disband the unit instead, right?
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
10 Mar 09 UTC
Topic revival
Can the "Volunteer" and "Variant" threads be revived please. I have just finally found the time to make use of them :)
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nomadcorp (100 D)
10 Mar 09 UTC
I made a new game. Join! (12 hours, 10 point bets)
! Coordination Compounds! Wachow!.... is the name of the game
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Nekrotzar (100 D)
10 Mar 09 UTC
British Bulldog - new 10-point game
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9346
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xcurlyxfries (0 DX)
09 Mar 09 UTC
Riddle me this...
I have to write riddles for my schools newspaper so I figure why not post em here and let you guys have a shot at em :P
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rratclif (0 DX)
09 Mar 09 UTC
Meta-Gaming
I don't think anyone would argue that meta-gaming doesn't exist on the site, though we might argue it's prevalence. As a community we've discussed the whole "name and shame" thing, but there is no formal system for preventing or discouraging this, and I'd like to open a discussion on ideas. I'll start it off with: A permanent record of those confirmed? Like a black-list?

Discuss.
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Maniac (189 D(B))
09 Mar 09 UTC
Could someone code a 'flying dutchman' variant please?
I think this would preserve a much missed aspect of face to face play.
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Freakisharm (1445 D)
10 Mar 09 UTC
New Game Up
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9338

Name- Divide and Destroy
50 points, 24 hr turns
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xgongiveit2ya55 (789 D)
10 Mar 09 UTC
Ratings
Are we any closer to implementing a parallel rating system? There are two systems I recall hearing about: the fairly prevalent Ghost-ratings, and figlesquidge's badges.
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Maniac (189 D(B))
08 Mar 09 UTC
This can't be good - count the players
Follows
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Jacob (2466 D)
09 Mar 09 UTC
Sitter Needed for Four Games
Things have just gotten really busy for me and I keep missing turns.
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hitler the second (0 DX)
10 Mar 09 UTC
New Game!
http://phpdiplomacy.net/index.php?gameID=9330
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bonbon (100 D)
09 Mar 09 UTC
Join the Empire Strikes Back
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9322
bet 25
turns every 24 hours
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Watchmen was the SHIZNIT!
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9304

15 pts., 20 hours.
Fanboys welcome.
Yes, it was!
Thucydides (864 D(B))
09 Mar 09 UTC
yeah it was good lol

I am Ozymandias, King of Kings. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.

Niiice
Are you being snarky?
JOIN MY GAME y'all
lulzworth (366 D)
09 Mar 09 UTC
I mean except for the poor musical accompaniment, really contrived acting and heavily condensed plot it was alright. I mean, action sequences were nice and it looked pretty good.

Thucy - the best part was really a quotation from somewhere else?
The music was good. Haley deserves an Oscar nod. The plot was hardly condensed. JOIN the GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sean (3490 D(B))
09 Mar 09 UTC
what a difference the word "THE " means in the English language these days. watchman was shit vs watchman was THE shit.

cant wait to see it when it comes out in japan.
Chrispminis (916 D)
09 Mar 09 UTC
Kirk, the music was questionable... I liked the songs, but their appropriateness is doubtful.

No, the plot wasn't condensed, but the character development and mythology certainly was.

It was a decent movie all the same. Saw it in IMAX. Haha, it was hard to read headlines and other texts because I had to read across a gigantic screen.
Chalks (488 D)
09 Mar 09 UTC
oh man, I loved the music. With the one exception of "hallelujah" during the sex scene, everything seemed to fit really, really well for me. I mean, that was the music that was around when the comic came out anyways, why not use it?

That said, I've heard people say they love/hate the music about 50/50.
Onar (131 D)
09 Mar 09 UTC
I loved the music, the acting was top-notch, but the omissions from the comic were deplorable.
Darwyn (1601 D)
09 Mar 09 UTC
Having never read the graphic novel but as a fan of comics in general, the movie was great.

The acting was decent...a but campy, but I thought it fit well into the dialogue and the attempt at making it comic-like. In fact, that was one of the best parts...the comicy look and feel.

The music was fine with me.

But my favorite line (and character) of the movie was Rorschach's: "I'm not locked up here with you...you are locked up here with me"

One more comment...again, I haven't read the comic, but one review stated that only Dr. Manhattan had super powers. I mean his are obvious, but while the others weren't as near omniscient as he, did they all not have some sort of super speed or strength?
Toby Bartels (361 D)
09 Mar 09 UTC
In theory, no, they had no super speed or strength, just will and training.

I haven't seen the movie yet, so I don't know if they're portrayed as realistically there as in the comic, but that's the theory.

(To be fair, I don't find even the comic's portrayal of Ozymandias entirely realistic. I am thinking of one scene in particular.)
Darwyn (1601 D)
09 Mar 09 UTC
okay, but what about Rorschach's mask? If that's just ordinary cheese cloth, where do I get me one of them?
Onar (131 D)
09 Mar 09 UTC
That wasn't a superpower, just bad-assed-ness.
Darwyn (1601 D)
09 Mar 09 UTC
okay, who sells bad ass cheese cloth?
Toby Bartels (361 D)
09 Mar 09 UTC
@Rorschach's mask:

‘1962. Special order dress in new Dr. Manhattan spin-off fabric. Viscous fluids between two layers latex, heat and pressure sensitive.’ —from Rorschach's biography of himself, Chapter VI, page 10, panel 2.

Similarly, the Owlship, while pretty tricked out, is within the range of what was possible for the Manhattan-advanced airship technology. Everything super comes from Dr. Manhattan.
Darwyn (1601 D)
09 Mar 09 UTC
Ahhh...okay, that explains everything. I was just about to ask about the Owlship and it's hovering goodness.
Onar (131 D)
09 Mar 09 UTC
I still say the comedian is my favouorite character.
Question, though: was the smiley-face button his personal thing?
Toby Bartels (361 D)
09 Mar 09 UTC
Again, I haven't seen the movie, but the Comedian wears a smiley face throughout all of his costume changes in the comic. (Although it doesn't take on the familiar shape and colour until the '70s, which is when that design became popular in real life.)
Onar (131 D)
09 Mar 09 UTC
I kknew that much, but I was asking if it was unique to him... I suppose my question wasn't clear.
Toby Bartels (361 D)
09 Mar 09 UTC
Do you mean, do any of the other vigilantes/superheroes use a smiley-face button? No.

Or do you mean, does anybody in the Watchmen universe use a smiley-face button other than the Comedian? I'm not sure about that.

I hope that they did keep in the movie that some of the action on Mars took place on Galle: http://www.msss.com/education/happy_face/happy_face.html
Onar (131 D)
09 Mar 09 UTC
Ah, I don't know why, but I kept thinking other people used it, especially after that scene on Mars... That face was, in fact, shown.
Toby Bartels (361 D)
09 Mar 09 UTC
One that you get a lot of in the comic (and I hope in the movie) is where something in one scene references something in another scene without any deliberate intent on the part of any of the characters. So there ARE lots of hidden smiley faces in the comic, but they're only there for the reader's pleasure, as references to the Comedian. Or in other words, they're part of the artistic work, but not part of the story.

I wasn't thinking of that when I first answered your question.
Onar (131 D)
09 Mar 09 UTC
There were a few in the movie, not as many in the comic, (which I read a little bit of).
I have to say, I was a little disappointed with the lack of the "comic within a comic," which was cut entirely from the movie.
Chrispminis (916 D)
09 Mar 09 UTC
Ozymandias caught a freaking bullet...

I know it's stated he's the smartest man in the world, but he kicks everyone else's ass... it seems he's also the strongest and fastest... he's just the ultimate human... I mean, he's an arrogant dick, but his delusions of grandeur are realities of grandeur. For all of Dr. Manhattan's super powers he was still easily manipulated and outsmarted by Ozymandias. Let's just say that if the Watchmen ever played Diplomacy, I have no doubt that Ozymandias would win.
Darwyn (1601 D)
09 Mar 09 UTC
I suppose that would be a good phpdip name, eh?

Someone will register it (if not already) and we'll see him here...I'm certain. =D
Onar (131 D)
10 Mar 09 UTC
Damn, I would love to be Ozymandias on here....

Ah, well.
Toby Bartels (361 D)
10 Mar 09 UTC
From what I've heard, Ozy outsmarted Dr. M even more thoroughly in the movie than in the comic.
Onar (131 D)
10 Mar 09 UTC
Yeah, to the point where Dr. M was the lynchpin in Ozy's plan... (Then again, I don't really know what it was like in the comic...)
Thucydides (864 D(B))
10 Mar 09 UTC
Yeah this is true.

And he did catch a bullet.. that's powers if you ask me.
Toby Bartels (361 D)
10 Mar 09 UTC
@Chirs & Thucy:
Yeah, that's the scene that I was thinking of.

I think that it's pretty clear from the comic that this power is SUPPOSED to be simply a result of Ozy's highly focused will and the extraordinary training that he put himself through. And that Ozy himself (at least) believes that it is a power within the ability of every ordinary human being to achieve.

To quote Ozymandias from the appendix (which therefore probably didn't make it into the movie) to Chapter XI:
‘The disciplines of physical exercise, meditation and study aren't terribly esoteric. The means to attain a capability far beyond that of the so-called ordinary person are within the reach of everyone, if their desire and their will are strong enough. I have studied science, art, religion and a hundred different philosophies. Anyone could do as much. By applying what you learn and ordering your thoughts in an intelligent manner it is possible to accomplish almost anything. Possibly for the “ordinary person.” There's a notion I'd like to see buried: the ordinary person. Ridiculous. There is no ordinary person.’

I suppose that it's debatable, but I take this at face value. In the Watchmen universe, while there is one person who obtained god-like powers through a freak accident, it's also possible for ANYBODY to obtain übermensch-like powers. As Ozy is the only person to have done this, he is super in a way. But as these powers are available to everybody, in a way he is not super at all.

Or you could argue like this: Ozymandias's superpower is super-strength of will, and everything else comes from that.
Toby Bartels (361 D)
10 Mar 09 UTC
@Onar:
In the comic, Ozy had to scheme to get Dr. M out of the way. And he had a back-up plan to keep Jon from ruining things if he came back. As far as those go, they're probably about the same in the movie.

But the linchpin, as you say, is different. It involved Dr. Manhattan only in the sense that it relied partially on advanced technology that he helped make possible. Even correcting for that, it also makes the story less realistic, which may be why they filmmakers, even after undoing most of the changes in earlier draft scripts, still changed the ending.


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EdiBirsan (1469 D(B))
09 Mar 09 UTC
Face To Face Event: San Francisco and Los Angles
BLADES of March: 14th in LA area
Whipping in SF Japantown, April 17-19 anyone interested contact me
EdiBirsan AT astound DOT net
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vekkna (110 D)
09 Mar 09 UTC
Youngstown
Are there any plans to add varients like Youngstown to the site? It would be great to be able to play Youngstown online like this.
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LitleTortilaBoy (124 D)
09 Mar 09 UTC
When you attack a convoying fleet, does the convoy cancel?
title
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
07 Mar 09 UTC
My Greatest diplomatic maneuver...
I figured we could all share the move we are the most proud of
Joined as italy in autumn 03 with Russia and Germany gaining hegemony and Austria crumbling beneath Turky and Russias onslaught, made a gambit with a delayed Lepanto with the help of Austria, enjoy...
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=7877
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TheClark (831 D)
08 Mar 09 UTC
New Game "While Horse and Hero Fell"
Another try at this game!
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maintgallant (100 D)
09 Mar 09 UTC
Mid-SC hump
A query for you better players out there. I can establish a good position out of my opening. How do I get over that mid-SC hump, from 7-10 SC's say, and convert it for an advantage?
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xgongiveit2ya55 (789 D)
09 Mar 09 UTC
New Game! Respectable pot
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9321

225pts, PPSC, 20hr
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TheClark (831 D)
09 Mar 09 UTC
Only 17 hours left shoppers!
"While Horse and Hero Fell" still accepting players!
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9302
36 hour phase, 110 bid
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sean (3490 D(B))
09 Mar 09 UTC
Gunboat/no press game
need a few more willing hands for a no press STFU

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9312
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Family Guy (0 DX)
09 Mar 09 UTC
Please join
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9317
We only need three players.
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LitleTortilaBoy (124 D)
08 Mar 09 UTC
Can I get some tips for England?
I've said in other topics how I don't like playing as this country. Starting out is hard to do for me, being that there's so many choices of what to do, and you have to rely on fleets heavily.

When should I build fleets? What are the best territories to take? etc.
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atymins (0 DX)
06 Mar 09 UTC
Does everyone have problems with the message board?
I can't stand trying to read something on the message board when i can only read the first letter or so because it is covered up by the map. Does this happen to everyone, and if so shouldn't we talk to the site designer?
Thanks
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