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keeper of the key (100 D)
07 May 08 UTC
Left?
Does anybody kno wat it means under ur profile where it says left? bc i hav one of those.
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eharvey (100 D)
06 May 08 UTC
Tips for Newbies?
Howdy all. My entire World History class just signed onto this site as part of a fun little thing to do for class, and we're currently playing our first game. Just wondering if there's anyone out there with any pointers for us to take into account as we get involved in the action. Y'know, just helpful tips to make the learning curb a mite smoother.
Croaker (370 D)
06 May 08 UTC
Talk to your opponents. Try not to tell outright lies or make meaningless threats. Talk to your opponents. Don't attack an ally just to gain a center. Talk to your opponents. Don't attack anyone in the early going unless you have an ally. Talk to your opponents. Don't try to go it alone. And don't forget to talk.
Feckless Clod (777 D)
06 May 08 UTC
Here's more good advice than you'll read in a month of Sundays:
http://web.archive.org/web/20020602150039/www.diplomacy-archive.com/index.html
DeaconBlues (156 D)
06 May 08 UTC
You can find the complete official rules for Diplomacy here:
http://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/diplomacy_rulebook.pdf

And a helpful guide for new players here:
http://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/Diplomacy_FiveMinGuide.pdf
Medi (280 D)
06 May 08 UTC
I recommend a read through Richard Sharp's book "The Game of Diplomacy." It's quite interesting, and will give you a basic overview of the opening game dynamics, though many disagree with Sharp on some points.

http://www.springoffensive.org/god-contents.htm
Labond (140 D)
06 May 08 UTC
I still find this book is an excellent reference, especially for specific countries. Also, always be polite in your conversations.

http://www.springoffensive.org/god-contents.htm
Labond (140 D)
06 May 08 UTC
You beat me to it, Medi ; ).
figlesquidge (2131 D)
06 May 08 UTC
Well said Croaker. Talk to everyone, and be polite.
Also, just a little warning. Hopefully you and your friends will enjoy the game and stay with us on the site, however, if you enter a game having already agreed to ally that is cheating. Just a little warning, hope it doesn't affect you.
Oh, and although you should really consider when is a good time to stab, try and stab your ally before he stabs you!
menace3society (927 D)
06 May 08 UTC
There's also a diplomacy 'wiki' that contains, in addition to a bunch of information that is less useful for you, a lot about the tactics of and strategies you can employ.
http://www.dipwiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
Oxygen (575 D)
06 May 08 UTC
Exterminate the lesser countries... fully... =)
npetryk (100 D)
06 May 08 UTC
wow mitch. nice forum... ya cheater
Sicarius (673 D)
06 May 08 UTC
yeah ya little snot

lol
menace3society (927 D)
07 May 08 UTC
If you're a teacher and doing this for educational reasons, you can also make up your own boards if you have an appropriately-size map of Europe you don't mind altering. Just laminate it, draw borders labels and borders in the appropriate places, and find or make something to use for fleets, armies, and to identify each player's territories. If you have to stop the game, just write down where all the pieces are, take them off the board, and roll it up till next time.

If you do this, make sure the students refer to places by their proper names, not necessarily the Diplomacy ones (Istanbul, Izmir, Netherlands, etc). The disadvantage is that you don't have a computer to help you with all your moves and to prevent cheating, but the advantage is that you have students interacting with each other personally and learning European geography from a real, high-quality map.

Also, you might be able to get the latest source from the developer, Kestas (kestasjk), so if your school has accommodating tech people you'd be able to set up a private server just for class use.
Feckless Clod (777 D)
07 May 08 UTC
"Exterminate the lesser countries" is terrible advice.
sean (3490 D(B))
07 May 08 UTC
thats right clod, much better to contain the biggies even prop up the small ones id say
Churchill (2280 D)
07 May 08 UTC
I'm not too sure about that. You can use lesser countries in two ways:

1) Coerce/Convince/Lure/Bribe them to help you in your struggles
2) Take their supply centres.

Option 2 is better if you can be sure that you will benefit more than your opponent. A strategy is to position them for a stab using option 1 then take all of their supply centres, in which case you will have their position with no communication and loyalty problems and the additional units!

Although, you may want to build your reputation by helping a loyal, lesser, ally to surive as you can win without taking their centres, but those of their opponent.

Personally, I prefer option 1, unless they are not helpful then option 2 occurs. Also, let no emotion stand between you and your 18 supply centres.
Churchill (2280 D)
07 May 08 UTC
There I go again with the spelling! That should say "survive".
Feckless Clod (777 D)
07 May 08 UTC
For newbies, I think it would help to define what is meant by "lesser countries". However, your attitude towards another nation should rather depend on which country you're playing, and might well be subject to change over time. For example, it is common for Austria to be quickly eliminated by a coalition (simply because it has so many neighbours), but (depending on the attitude and intentions of the Austrian player) this is not usually in Germany's interest, or Russia's, for that matter, while Italy and Turkey can hardly be expected to endorse a tenet like "exterminate the lesser countries". France and England are unlikely to be overly concerned with of Austria or Turkey until directly affected, England is unlikely to be initially concerned with Italy, and Russia might well benefit from an alliance with Turkey, so it's hard to see who Oxygen's advice is intended to serve.

Of course, any nation might be fair game to any other nation later on. Assuming that winning is your ongoing objective, "let no emotion stand between you and your 18 supply centres" is excellent advice.
menace3society (927 D)
07 May 08 UTC
I think "lesser countries" was intended to mean either "everyone else," or the neutral SCs. In other words, always look out for number 1, and pick the low-hanging fruit first.
marklikesboys (100 D)
07 May 08 UTC
hey emily harvey and mitch luden
mapleleaf (0 DX)
07 May 08 UTC
If you keep to yourselves (please), then your inexperience will not be an issue.
Anomander_Rake (100 D)
07 May 08 UTC
the key is "diplomacy".
Zarathustra (3672 D)
07 May 08 UTC
i agree with everything said thus far, especially the bits about talking to your opponents (that means the other six players, not just those who you are not allied with at the moment).

My extra bit of advice is to know and use the rules. The rules are rather simple, but can be used in some very interesting ways, for instance the double bounce (moving two or more units into a territory in order to prevent a 3rd party from sneaking in). also, the rules pertaining to support are VERY important for tactics. After you know the rules for support, you will understand where to attack from and whether to support your attack or cut support provided by other units.

Generally, talk to each other and know the rules.
Zarathustra (3672 D)
07 May 08 UTC
oh, and you have the greatest teacher ever for letting you play diplomacy for class.
Dog_Soldier (100 D)
08 May 08 UTC
Is that debate between labond and sicarius around here somewhere?
I think I saw that they were going to continue somewhere else but cant remember where
Labond (140 D)
08 May 08 UTC
By Email - I remember the final post in the thread suggested that it might be interesting to post the result in a new thread. I'd be quite happy to do so if Sicarius is, but Sicarius is away at the moment. It was an interesting discussion and it would be nice to resume it later.
Dog_Soldier (100 D)
08 May 08 UTC
Email... : (

I was enjoying that debate. although idk if I would call it that


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dangermouse (5551 D)
07 May 08 UTC
Proud Owner
I, Russia, am now the proud owner of 4 supply depots in Office Linebacker (http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3621).

St. Petersburg, Denmark, Munich & Tunis.

:)
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mapleleaf (0 DX)
02 May 08 UTC
Non sequiturs....

I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight, if all of you people don't tell me what you think of them.

Please note that I will not be tolerant of any statements that contain illogical conclusions.

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Nick Douglas (408 D)
08 May 08 UTC
Need someone to fill a CD spot
There's a free SC for anyone who takes over this civil disorder Turkey in "Upsetter in Dub": http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3379
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creek999 (100 D)
07 May 08 UTC
emily isnt smart
booo emily is going to lose cuz they cheat and have no friends
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xgongiveit2ya55 (789 D)
06 May 08 UTC
Number one
I'm aware that rankings and the point system don't mean that much, but I'm still curious as to who the number one player is. I found dangermouse, who came up as number 2, but I can't find number one.
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Sicarius (673 D)
06 May 08 UTC
babysitter
will someone babysit my games for a few days?

something came up I gotta go to florida.

so if you're willing just give me your email and I'll give you my password
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BoG75 (6816 D)
07 May 08 UTC
Biggest Win So Far
I just won my largest point game so far in Yellow Submarine.

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3563

I just want to say it was a great game and hope to play again with all the players. Italy and Austira almost had my solo stoped.
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wawlam59 (0 DX)
07 May 08 UTC
Ads for Individual Online Tournament ---- Wonderful Mansion
Find more information here,

http://www.stabbeurfou.org/Tournoi.php?nom=Wonderful_Mansion

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A-Strat (123 D)
07 May 08 UTC
What is the position ranking?
what is the position ranking mean??
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tglee2010 (100 D)
07 May 08 UTC
new game
new game tglee
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tglee2010 (100 D)
07 May 08 UTC
New Game
New game is Europe
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Sicarius (673 D)
06 May 08 UTC
draw request for game 'smash 99'
other 2 remaining countries agree, as can be seen in the press

I want to go on record saying i can definitely win, but I am going to florida so that kinda forced my hand


http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3614&msgCountry=Global
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fwancophile (164 D)
06 May 08 UTC
ATTN: americans
for your eyes only...

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3797
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figlesquidge (2131 D)
06 May 08 UTC
No units = no comments
In my opinion once you have been designated as 'out' you should not talk to other players about how the game is going. If they are also out or the game has finished then sure, or if you're not talking about the game in hand, such as if you're trying to set up another game, but there shouldn't be any comments from the dead to the living about the game. I might be alone in my views, but who knows: thoughts...
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Tucobenedicto (100 D)
05 May 08 UTC
Iron Man was pimp
Discuss.
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Whipster (100 D)
06 May 08 UTC
new game
I've started a new game for people who haven't played before or have played only a few times. it's called newbies. thanks
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Bengoa (329 D)
06 May 08 UTC
can´t enter the game
Hi, I´ve just joined a game, taking england who was at civil disorder. But something is wrong and I can´t enter the game.

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3610
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el_maestro (14722 D(B))
06 May 08 UTC
New game: Irelande Douze Points
Looking for players ...
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Twenty (160 D)
06 May 08 UTC
Anyone had problems with support moves?
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3567

Turkey (me) in the above game both this recent round and previous round have had supports not carried out. In the recent round Adr Sea was to support Venice and Budapest to support Trieste, these weren't actioned and for some reason my other support moves were.

If happened in the Spring as well, a couple of support holds didn't occur.

Has anyone else had this problem, or is it just me?
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Croaker (370 D)
06 May 08 UTC
Invitations & Winner Take All
Is there an internal mechanism to invite specific players to partake in a game, or is email the usual method?

Also, how do you set a winner-take-all game? I do not see an option when creating a game. Do you need a certain amount of personal points to do this?

Thanks for your help.
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Wombat (722 D)
06 May 08 UTC
Join Game "Game name 2"
A few hours left, not to pricey in points...

Come on! Where's your sense of adventure?
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keeper0018 (100 D)
06 May 08 UTC
amount of games with a diplomat in CD
i just took a look at the open games, and i am disgusted in the number of games that have at least one diplomat in CD. when you sign up for a game, you should be in it until the end. i know that things come up, but not in this amount...
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fwancophile (164 D)
30 Apr 08 UTC
americans only?
heh who would be interested in a game premised on excluding foreigners. c'mon...
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Churchill (2280 D)
03 May 08 UTC
Capped points rewards
I started a new thread as the discussion was currently in another topic.
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fwancophile (164 D)
03 May 08 UTC
worst french opening ever
seriously:

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3741
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Croaker (370 D)
06 May 08 UTC
Technical Question
If you have posted your orders but not finalized, I assume that they are not carried out. In other words, if time runs out all of your units hold.

Is this true? Or are non-finalized orders honored?
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positron (1160 D)
05 May 08 UTC
TCS
Several games are named "TCS". Anybody know what TCS means?
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pierredude (186 D)
05 May 08 UTC
Whatever
Join game 20 pts
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3792
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