Ha ha ha - Brilliant! So Tiger was actually Braddles as well! How many accounts does this guy actually want? :)

Thanks Kestas - I hope this slight code change goes a long way to stopping these multi-accounters.

Keep up the good work *thumbs up*

Ironically it was tiger's complaint that made me finally decide to write the code ;-)

Rofl.

don't be so hard on him, in that game "war games 2" he only used one of his accounts, maybe he decided to play fair from now on?

Alamothes one of them!!!!!
=]
Can never be too hard on multi accounters. I was in a game with both Tiger in Bradster so obviously he wasn't being completely straight.

cool. can i see the code? or at least tell me how you caught them.

i'm not saying he didn't use multi accounts, i only said that he didn't use them in "war games 2" when he was complaining about me... so f*** off krokodil

Calm down, krok was obviously joking

The middle guy even used the same e-mail names...

> can i see the code? or at least tell me how you caught them.
If you're desperate to see you'll be able to see it in CVS once I commit the latest code, but I think it'd be counter productive to detail it right now.
No-one is being banned without good reason though, there's no mistake, if that's what you're wondering aoe3rules

>maybe he decided to play fair from now on?
He was using his multi-accounts today alamothe, and I don't think it matters whether someone is using multi-accounts in a particular game; there's no reason to use multi-accounts at all. (this is all krokodil was saying, no need to be rude about it)
I'd rather give people the benefit of the doubt and not have to worry about such a weird problem, but I let braddles/gisset/tiger off last time and it turns out I shouldn't have

I think these guys need checking out in a game im in, caled diplomcay game:
ponybane
cronos101
willv2011

all seem to be the same player or at very least the first two are....

yeah, cronos' email address is [email protected] so Im fairly sure they are the same.

Great work Kestas! I'm sure this will make a lot of people very happy.

Hmm, on a darker note, it seems that a lot of the multi-accounters have a tendency to bad mouth this site, and say that it is "second rate", "inept", and other such things. A few of them have also advocated dipBounced. I don't know why they are so malicious, but perhaps their multi-accounting is not to win, but to undermine the credibility of this site? No accusations here, just some speculation.

Chrispminis: i think you might be on to something.

wow

It seems that a lot of the multi-accounters are one rather sad individual! He can bad-mouth us all he wants, he's still only one person (however many he pretends to be). I had his card marked back in March when he was still gisset, and ruined a couple of my games with what at the time seemed inexplicable gameplay - now of course it all makes sense and I'm glad to have been vindicated.

sorry scratch that last sentence, I'm getting him confused with another player who may actually be someone different!

moral: check the records before posting!

I'm in a couple of games with a couple of those people (or the same person multiple times...) and I've wondered if it was a cheater but figured I wouldn't raise a stink.
Ahhh vindication!

Ug... I was in a game with Tiger... This is going to definately change things up (he was leading, though don't know if any other of his accounts was playing). It sure would be nice if there was a record of when someone takes over an spot in disorder.

Agreed. The gamemaster definitely needs to post something like "Italy has returned from Civil Disorder and is under the control of Dangermouse" - or something.

lol i was in a game with tiger and 2 of his other accounts and to think i barely gave it a second thought! now the game is barren and it gives my the creeps to think of all the other games that where contaminated.

question: what are these strange accounts - Civil Disorder Italy and such? Are they there for a purpose or are they fakes as well?

They're countries in civil disorder - not actual players.

sorry for being rude, didn't know it was a joke, i can only understand :-) as a smiley

ok, no problem. :-)

if it is possible. Maybe its possible a code to spy orders and conversations.

No?????

If kestasjk wants to spy on your orders and conversations he can, since he's got admin access to the database where they're stored. Is that your question?

I'm hoping you're not asking for a feature that would allow you to do that yourself...

I'm pretty sure Civil Disorder is a cheater ;-)

Unown116 and blood32 are the same person.
Thier emails are [email protected] and [email protected]. They are in the same game aswell.

and they log in at the same times

A few others:
uid uname email
2217 bgrier85 [email protected]
2260 Diplomacy Warrior [email protected]
2846 sydney [email protected]
2789 miguelito [email protected]
2790 detaiquer [email protected]
2793 Cel. Taylor [email protected]
2155 justonething [email protected]
2008 diplomaniac [email protected]
1869 Gissett75 [email protected]
2738 HarryWest2 [email protected]
2739 HarryWest1 [email protected]
2737 CharlieWest2 [email protected]
2587 Tom_West2 [email protected]
2671 Tom_West4 [email protected]
2583 Barbarossa [email protected]
2714 Dummy [email protected]
2586 Tom_West [email protected]

Turns out the guy complaining and asking about other diplomacy sites to play on was gisset again, trying to get some petty revenge I guess.. I really hope this doesn't become an ongoing thing

I'm having to add a table to store IPs that are banned, really sad that I have to do this but I guess just a handful of people can ruin it for the majority of honest players (there are only 5 actual multi account players in all of the accounts above)

Jesus christ! I was in games with so many of those people. I suspected [and reported] a few but never that many.

They can't ruin it if the code spots them early enough, they get kicked out of any games they start and other people quickly fill the civil disorders. It's just a minor inconvenience for the players and a major hassle for the administrators!

It is pointless and childish, perhaps understandable in the teenie brigade, but judging from the email addresses, one is 32 years old, another is a student at Oxford University..! You'd think they would act a little bit more like grown-ups.

Excellent move kestasjk!

Re Kestasjk's last post, I claim responsibility for all of the West accounts. That is because myself and four brothers were all playing PRIVATE games from the same computer. There are only four of us so some of us take two sides each. I really don't see that there should be a problem with this. The games we were playing were entitled West, West 2 etc and were just for our own amusement. If this site does not wish to support private games of this nature I will look elsewhere (which is a shame as I find the interface very user friendly here).

I used the Barbarossa account to play public games and have never used multi-accounting in a public game.

I would be very grateful if you would restart the banned accounts so that we can continue with our private games.

Thanks

If you wish to play private game on your computer, please download phpDiplomacy from SourceForge, install it on your computer and play there that kind of games.
For public games (on public hardware and software resources) you will be welcome, of course I think, with only one account to play with other people.
IMHO I think this would be the sense of a site like this.
Have fun.

It's not easy to play on you're own computer, since you need to have a full installation of PHP and MySQL before you can use PHPDiplomacy.

Not so hard, if you really want. I suggest using WebDeveloper as a WAMP: it makes all very simple.
I've made it and use my private installation to test.

Out of interest, if all his other accounts have been banned, why is gisset75 still around?
Perhaps running a search through the database would be useful? Also, if instead of deleting them their details are changed, it should prevent errors caused by looking through old games and links. Alternatively, a simple boolean field for banned could be added, and names rewritten in links accordingly as well as the login checking the account is not banned...

haha don't be silly install php diplomacy on your own computer :-)
there are other alternatives like jDip... and it doesn't have a broken judge

i vouch for Barbarossa, he's a nice player

I have jDip installed too (actually I have Diplo too). I'm talking about testing and playing with code... and to play your favourite platform with friends at home. If you don't like phpDiplomacy why you play it?

Are you going to ban these people? I am in games with sydney and miguelito and they are still actively taking part.

I like it! I only said I would never try to install it at my computer... And I'm a CS student :-)

If Tom West's assertions are true, I'd agree with his reinstatement. (not that I actually have any power here). I see no reason why creating multi accounts to screw around in a private game where everyone knows whats up should be prevented.

Having just said that, perhaps a good reason not to do so would be to allow kestas to keep detection code relatively simple.

how about, when you first log on, you are redirected to the rules page and one of the rules is if you have multiple accounts to play private games you must declare it on the forum?