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AviF (726 D)
10 Sep 13 UTC
New Game
I would like to start a new Full Press, WTA game with 48 hour phase lengths. I think the pot size should be 101 but I am flexible on that. Is anyone interested?
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mendax (321 D)
09 Sep 13 UTC
George Zimmerman arrested (again)
If only there were signs! If only there was some hint that he could behave violently with a gun! If only there was some way we could have known!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/09/george-zimmerman-taken-into-custody_n_3895388.html
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
09 Sep 13 UTC
ANYONE FROM DETROIT?
Anyone going to St. Jerome's Landowner Festival this weekend?
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Maniac (189 D(B))
04 Sep 13 UTC
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Another Syrian Post
Been buzzing around in my time machine....
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The Fox (115 D)
09 Sep 13 UTC
Looking for a replacement player for an Egypt with a decent start in Modern Map
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=125345&msgCountryID=4
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Mujus (1495 D(B))
09 Sep 13 UTC
I Need a Mod
I need a mod to take a look at some reason postings in the thread I maintain, the Daily Bible Reading because a player is posting extremely offensive material of a graphic sexual nature that is completely unrelated to the topic. I muted him, but want to know if this is permitted or if it can be deleted from the Forum.
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SYnapse (0 DX)
09 Sep 13 UTC
I need a God
I need a God to take a look at some reason postings in the prayers I maintain, the King James Bible because a neighbour is posting extremely offensive material of a graphic sexual nature that is completely unrelated to the topic. I forgave him, but want to know if this is permitted or if it can be deleted from the Universe.
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kaner406 (356 D)
09 Sep 13 UTC
Twilight Struggle
So I'm expecting this game to arrive by post soon (and pretty excited!) - any advice from anyone who has played this game?
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
09 Sep 13 UTC
NEW GAME JOIN RULES?
I just noticed a game that was pending start had 7 players and since a player has left. This used to not be possible. Is this a new feature or is it an error?
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tendmote (100 D(B))
08 Sep 13 UTC
Alas, Metternich's Fanclub
Alas, another game cancelled before completion.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
06 Sep 13 UTC
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The Return of NFL Pick 'em: Week 1 (Plus your picks for Playoff Teams + The Super Bowl!)
So a day late and seven Peyton TDs later--damn, he was great last night!--NFL Pick 'em is back...
So, besides the Broncos/Ravens game, pick the winners for the Week 1 match-ups...THEN pick your playoff teams (the 1-6 seeds for each conference) and then, of course...your Super Bowl match-up and champs.
So, NFL, Week 1...PICK 'EM!
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Lord Robin (130 D)
09 Sep 13 UTC
Looking players for new America game
Hi there ... looking for some beginner players to new America game - http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=125799

I haven't played this version before, so would be interested to learn the curves :-)
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Yonni (136 D(S))
06 Sep 13 UTC
Donations
Kestas makes mention of regular donors. Is there a way to sign up for regular monthly/yearly donations?
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ckroberts (3548 D)
08 Sep 13 UTC
Players wanted
We're looking for three more players.
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taos (281 D)
08 Sep 13 UTC
rank must be changed
How come you lose a few points and you are a political puppet when you were experienced before?
Experience can't be taken from you.
The same can happen but reversed,you may win one game and be expert.
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mendax (321 D)
05 Sep 13 UTC
Well, this could get interesting
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=45762&Cr=united+states&Cr1=#.UidHGzZQFqI

UN asks the USA to review the Trayvon Martin case.
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
08 Sep 13 UTC
Donation message won't disappear
That big message at the top keeps coming back. I've clicked the "Ssshhh" button at least 10 times already.
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Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
08 Sep 13 UTC
Gen. Lee St. Jude Memphis Marathon
See inside
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Emac (0 DX)
02 Sep 13 UTC
Welfare pays better than work in the US
A mother of two in New York is eligible for more in welfare benefits than starting salaries for school teachers in the state. Hawaii offered the most money to a mother of two, $60, 590 and Idaho the least $11,150. 33 states offer more in welfare than full-time minimum wage work earns.
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Paladin Hali (100 D)
07 Sep 13 UTC
Live Game
Live game is on. 5 min. or less. 5 bucks to chip in.

Live game-325. Sorry, I can't find out how to link it, but if you search, you can find it.
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JosephStalin (0 DX)
07 Sep 13 UTC
Please
3 person pleaseeee


http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=125723
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nudge (284 D)
06 Sep 13 UTC
Diplomacy - Australia 2013
So webdippers, a little exercise for you, using the Australian election map. Who takes victory? Can you game it out?
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iscarion (382 D)
05 Sep 13 UTC
Possible to modify the rythm of a game ?
Hi,
we just started a game between friends, but I configure the game with a too tight rythm. Is it possible to modify the number of days for each phase ?

thanks !
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SYnapse (0 DX)
06 Sep 13 UTC
Webdip in the red?
Is this due to:
communists
the Arab Spring
the constitution
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
01 Sep 13 UTC
The Christian Theory of Creation (of the Universe)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3MWRvLndzs

Just in case you didn't know...
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mlbone (112 D)
06 Sep 13 UTC
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going on honeymoon. Requesting sitter for 2 weeks? all gunboat small games
Very easy. 9 gunboat games where I am just shooting for draws. Would appreciate any help just so not to screw the games up.

Thanks!
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
22 May 13 UTC
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Official Thread for The School of War Intermediate Class 2013
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=118549#gamePanel
This thread is for professor commentary and public questions related to this game only.
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Atundal (100 D)
30 Jun 13 UTC
Bump again
rs2excelsior (600 D)
01 Jul 13 UTC
I am back and ready to continue the game. I appreciate the pause.
bump
were back
Zenetar (225 D)
05 Jul 13 UTC
opinions on retreats, anyone?
rokakoma (19138 D)
05 Jul 13 UTC
I was hoping England retreats to Norway. I deliberately didn't mention it in my previous analysis. But hattip for France (and/or Germany), if he convinced England to retreat there it's a great achievement.

That retreat just reiterates what we have said earlier, small power will play along with those bigones who offer viable survival path. Clearly England is doomed, his only chance is to survive in Scandinavia or StP, therefore it seems rational to retreat there and let his homeland be taken.

Of course this immidiately results Russia started losing SCs, as he certainly loses at least 1 in scandinavia, maybe two and is unable to get any anywhere. Depends on how good FGE can and want to cooperate of course.

Whether or not this leads to the collapse of russia eventually, he certainly loses Scandinavia, as we already said. It's not his fault I think, strategically it's impossible to hold against strong northern power(s). Well, it's not his fault in a negotiating point of view, but strategically it was impossible to hold, therefore useless to build so many fleets there.

The retreat to bohemia is a nice try curbing germany's capabilities, more than just nice, probably beneficial, which as a result fuels France again, as germany will be busy with attacking and defending against russia.

That's all on retreats, I'll write more after the moves, because I already wrote what I think will happen, and who should consider what.
cardcollector (1270 D)
07 Jul 13 UTC
Bump
we have moved to the next phase
cardcollector (1270 D)
07 Jul 13 UTC
bump. opinions?
rokakoma (19138 D)
07 Jul 13 UTC
Not much to add from my side. Russia has lost an SCs, England is doomed, Turkey/Italy/Germany is stuck, France is thriving. Just as I said all of this earlier.

France became the biggest power, and will continue to expand while neither Germany nor Italy can stop him, since they are still abused by Russia and Turkey. Already said as well.

The latter ones should seriously consider their strategy I think, as they continue to attack the small ones they will continue to help France, who is not. Of course, Turkey with all that fleets is in a tough situation, to reconsider anything. The same applies to Russia, who has a little bit more options as he can keep his fleets and commit to help Germany against france, by disbanding. Otherwise, I'm afraid he'll continue losing SCs.

Conclusion, the objective is to work with the small ones, as it has always been. Yet, Germany is in the only position to choose sides, as Turkey must keep attacking italy, thanks to building all those fleets.

While I keep telling France is growing, and will continue to do so, no one is really trying to stop him. Of course, many of you might think, there's still time, and you may be right, but even if there is, you should know by now what will you do, when the time comes to change strategy.
I'm doomed? No way man, you underestimate me!
CSteinhardt (9560 D(B))
08 Jul 13 UTC
Sorry, I had an emergency come up and have not been around, nor will I be for the next while.

Very briefly, and less eloquently than usual:

Turkey A Tri H - Surely there is something you can find to do with the unit? Anything?

Russia: You were dealt a tough hand, and this isn't an unreasonable response. The right disbands will be crucial. Liked the tactics this turn.

Sorry I can't write more at the moment!
cardcollector (1270 D)
09 Jul 13 UTC
Next phase. Bump

opinions on builds and destroys?
rokakoma (19138 D)
09 Jul 13 UTC
Getting interesting :)
I like Russia's disband, I think he finally got my message, also the move on turkey is promising. Where I mean promising, Russia might finally grew up to the point to regain solo threat status. If he's able to ally with Germany, as his disbands suggests, then he might thrive again.

Anyway, a shift in alliances is due I think. I already stated Germany might go with russia, and clearly not just Russia's but French builds point towards that direction. Germany should just look at the map and ask himself, on which of my borders are more enemy units and which of my neighbours is bigger... Then he will know who the new threat is.

Worth to note, another weakest link, namely England basically fell out of the picture and it triggers alliances and objectives to be altered.

On the south, well, I have no idea what the heck is happening there. The new french fleet there is totally unexpected for me (I would have built another in north) I'm eager to see what will happen there. I'm still think it's France's interest to keep italy alive, though builds suggest he thinks otherwise.

In conclusion I expect a reshuffle in alliances, but as always the really small ones can tilt the balance a lot depends on their negotiating and strategic skills. As it has been always an opportunity to use small powers, so is it for small ones to ask for overcompensation.

On builds: I don't understand the French builds at all. Neither. In my opinion he was impatient and he might feel it's time to go full force on Germany and Italy, whereas I think he's wrong. He's builds basically shout out, come and attack me, becuase I'm the most powerful!
rokakoma (19138 D)
10 Jul 13 UTC
Dear 'students', I'm going back to my retirement as I fell off my last game today. Meaning I cannot give my comments on this game anymore, whether or not you liked them :D

Anyway, it was fun to do, really, and I'm sure CSteinhardt will continue his good work and useful advising as he did so far.

Good luck everyone ;)
cardcollector (1270 D)
11 Jul 13 UTC
Thank you very much. I appreciated your comments and found them useful. Enjoy your retirement, I hope you visit us again.

On another note, we face an NMR from Turkey who has internet issues and I haven't heard from my TA. Can one of the mods please pause this game?
cardcollector (1270 D)
11 Jul 13 UTC
Mods pleaseeee
jmo1121109 (3812 D)
11 Jul 13 UTC
This is the wrong place to let us know. I only check the mod email in the mornings and no other mod saw this.
Zenetar (225 D)
13 Jul 13 UTC
Can we get CS back here, please?
CSteinhardt (9560 D(B))
13 Jul 13 UTC
I'm sorry - I kinda had an emergency come up this week, and have been only minimally checking webDip with sporadic internet access. Things should be back to normal sometime this weekend, I hope, and I'll do my best to write about these Spring moves before Fall actually processes. Sorry!
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CSteinhardt (9560 D(B))
15 Jul 13 UTC
I'm now back (mostly), though still trying to get caught up. In general, the tactics were pretty good this turn, but let me mention a couple of things worth discussing:

French F TYS H:

Could have been a misorder, given that Italy did support it twice. However, I'd point out that in general, putting that fleet into the Ionian is better both for attacking Italy and for pushing past Italy. And it's the latter that you really need to be thinking about most strongly (see below).

Russian F Swe - SKA:

In general, be careful making moves you don't want to succeed. You didn't expect SKA - NTH to work, but if it had, you really wanted to be Swe, not SKA, right? Further, if it failed, most likely it failed because of NWG S NTH - Nwy, in which case Nwy retreats to StP, and you don't really like that outcome, either. So, you had basically three realistic options, all of which involved some guesswork in order to be useful:

1) Swe S Nwy (guess that Germany won't hit Swe and France will hit Nwy with power 2, most likely convoying Edi)

2) Lvn S Swe - BAL (expecting a power-2 attack from Germany or expecting Den S NTH - SKA, which lets you set up a Swe/BAL perimeter).

3) Swe - Den (trying to cut a support for NTH and hoping you catch France and Germany being clever swapping fleets).

Of these, I think 2) was a clear best guess in a Fall turn, when you care the most about keeping Sweden for another turn. In the Spring, 2) is still a very good guess, but I wouldn't have complained if you picked 3) or 1), probably in that order, with one major exception: in either case, you need to send Lvn - BAL, not to GoB; you really, really want to be in BAL instead tactically, and if you don't get into BAL, it means you're still in Sweden.

French A Edi - Yor:

I don't understand this move at all. As with Gascony earlier in the game, you want to put units in the places that give them the greater number of useful things to do. From Edi, both NWG and NTH can convoy the army, so you have more threats. From Yor, only NTH. You could then send it to Lon, allowing convoys through both NTH and ENG, but you have no fleet in ENG, nor are you likely to have one for at least two more turns, by which point you really hope that army is no longer in England. A Edi H would have made a lot more sense in this case.


Germany: Combined set of orders:

This turn, it looks like you ended up moving against both Russia and France. This is likely to get you swallowed, even if you do gain Swe; you'll have to find one of them that you can work with, or else you die. So don't attack both -- do your best to read the situation diplomatically and trust your read, and if they're both out for your centers, then you weren't going to survive the experience anyway. By attacking both, you actually make yourself a less useful ally to either one, which means you have less to work with when you try to get one of them turned around.


So, with that said, let's talk strategy for a moment. We're now at the point in the game where we find out whether somebody can reach 18. The Turkish NMR obviously doesn't help, so let's take a moment and try to count to 18 for the remaining players in the game.

France: From this position, we expect France to get Tunis, Munich, Holland, making 12. How can France get six more?

In the northeast, there are basically two lines that can be set up against France. The most forward is to stop France right at Nwy/SKA/Den/Kie. Losing Mun makes this tougher, but it's not fatal. If, say, Denmark is breached (it's actually a bit more complicated than this, so I'm speaking roughly here), then Kiel is also lost, Norway, Sweden, and StP are also lost, but Berlin can be held. If Berlin is also lost, it can be easily held by France one taken. So, France is likely to get either 0, 5, or 6 more in the north in a winning war. Note that last caveat, though! The lines I just discussed assume major fleet superiority, and right now, France has three northern fleets, the same number as Russia. Germany has two more. So, even if France builds another F Bre this year, it's just as likely that France will be defending as attacking in the north. Still, if France commits to the north, then the upshot is that reaching Berlin means 6 centers and a win.

What about the south? If France gets to the Ionian (see above), it is difficult but not quite impossible for defenders to hold Rome/Naples (if France gets both, it keeps both in most cases). Beyond that, a French fleet in the Adriatic will likely get Venice, and to go past that, France probably needs to break into either the Aegean or Bohemia. So, a French push in the south likely gets it another 0, 2, 3, or more, with several stopping points along the way.

So, what's the conclusion for France? The conclusion is that basically either Berlin or Rome are the targets, but that there's no obvious immediate path to victory because if Germany turns around, even Denmark looks pretty challenging at the moment.

And what about Russia? Russia looks weak at the moment, but a quick check will show that there are basically no stalemate lines in the way of growth. If Russia were to be the victor in Scandinavia (putting it on 11, including Bul), what's in the way of getting most of the current Turkish centers (add 6)? Or Berlin? Or having fleet superiority and menacing England (again, there's no defensive line...). In other words, Russia looks weak, but if you let Russia out of its current box, it's weak with explosive growth potential.

This combination probably has the most meaning for Germany, as it tries to make its decision. Germany does not want to, for example, stop the French solo in a way that makes it expendable. Rather, for Germany to end up in the draw, it must be a non-removable part of a stalemate line in the end. So, there's a bit of brinksmanship -- you want to get a threat so dire that everybody else is afraid to remove you, but obviously not so dire that you give up a solo. Even worse, the quickest path to making France that large of a threat runs straight through your centers, and if you end up holding one solitary unit in Berlin, it's easy for the other players to agree to cut you out of the draw. So, you'll have some thinking to do.

The same thing applies here to both Italy and Turkey. Italy wants to be a key part of a line, and could end up holding that line against either France or Russia, but if it shrinks too quickly, won't be part of either. Turkey, on the other hand, isn't going to be on the front lines, and thus needs to fine an essential role for itself where removing it would mean a solo for somebody. England has done a good job of staying alive and finding a role, but will only be in a draw if it can cut a deal where somebody keeps it in.

Should be a fun next couple of turns!

Most improved in the last year or so: F, R
Largest decline: T (NMR tends to do that), G
Zenetar (225 D)
17 Jul 13 UTC
we've moved
cardcollector (1270 D)
17 Jul 13 UTC
bump
CSteinhardt (9560 D(B))
18 Jul 13 UTC
Fall 1905 Reaction:

As before, the tactics and strategy don't separate so cleanly at this point, as the game starts to become progressively more tactical with known alliances. Some moves that jumped out this time around:

English F Nwy S Russian Fin - Swe (and similar):

Fortes fortuna adiuvat. England and Russia took a major tactical risk here. NWG S Swe - Nwy would have been nearly fatal for their northern hopes. Swe S NWG - Nwy would have been bad as well. Several choices for SKA would have been much safer. And yet...it worked, and left you in a much, much stronger position than a more conservative set of tactics would have. In recent turns, I highlighted some places where more aggressive tactics would have been sensible, even if they wouldn't have worked. Here, a sensible risk did turn out to pay off, and probably changed the balance of the war in the north. Well done!

Germany: Entire order set

This, on the other hand, was...less inspired. As you probably have noticed by now, I'm not going to criticize anybody for getting outguessed. Sometimes you make a sensible set of choices and simply guess wrong. The problem I have here is that Germany needs to find a way to be the tipping point between a solo and non-solo, and these order didn't accomplish that.

With that in mind, I would have felt one of two sets of orders made sense:

A) Attack Russia, try to get far enough forward that you can't be eliminated. Offer France uncontested centers in your rear in return. Something like:

Pru - Lvn, Mun - Sil, Swe - Nwy with support, Den - BAL, Hol - Den (convoyed by HEL), disband two units in your rear and try to secure a War/Mos line knowing that Russia will just have to let you sit there as part of the draw. If you're in Nwy, England's in StP, and you have units in BAL, Lvn, Sil, and Den (which you then convoy to Pru/Lvn; disband Nwy), then it might be a French solo, but it won't be a draw with Germany not present.

B) Hold the line at Germany:

In this case, turn around You can't hold Mun anyway, but you have a decent shot at holding Hol with Mun - Ruh, Den - HEL, while asking Russia to support you to Norway from SKA and use Fin to cover StP (basically, you take England's place in the alliance as a much more capable ally). Try and set up a Kie/Ber/Den/SKA/Nwy line, which you can hold against all comers along with Russia, and claim your place in the draw.


Both of these options involve a combination of negotiation and tactics; you're using the tactical threat as a lever to force the negotiations to the conclusion you want. Option B) would be better if you believe you can trust Russia to keep you around, because it's more certain to be a draw instead of a solo. But, it's less certain that Russia won't be able to cut you out of the draw; if France gets stopped at Rome/Naples rather than past the Ionian, for example... On the other hand, option A definitely means you survive, but takes more of a risk of a solo. Your choice of option C, though, means that you don't really have as much to offer either side. Having said that, the following is now a fact: with the correct builds/disbands and orders, Russia, England, and Germany will be able to stop France from gaining anything further in Scandinavia and Germany. The question is, are England and Germany worth enough that Russia prefers that option to a division of the spoils?

Italian A Ven S Rom:

This was, sadly, the worst move of the turn. Tactically, you supported a unit that was not under threat. Strategically, though, you missed the chance to wield influence. You could have put Russia in Trieste. You could have supported Trieste, which would have given A Ser freedom tactically and ultimately given Turkey a build at Russia's expense. You could, probably, have successfully negotiated for Vie S Ven - Tri. Instead, you wasted a turn you can't afford. The only way you survive this game is for the R/T war to come to a quick enough conclusion that you get help with France, and you picked the option that makes that war as long and messy as possible.

French A Yor H:

Although, this comes in a close second. What does this army do for you in Yorkshire that it can't do in Edinburgh right now?

Italian F Tun H:

This, too, should have been something else. Either you're helping France take the Ionian (in which case he has something better to do than take Tunis from you, hopefully) or you're not (in which case he might as well put his own fleet in Tunis, since he knows he can rely on that support). You only have four units, and you chose to waste half your power this turn. That's never good tactics.

Russian A Bul - Con:

You want a fleet in Con, and you want an army in Ser. You didn't have an unlimited set of choices, and it was certainly a guessing game, but in this case you "won" the guessing game in a way that will end up being really inconvenient without a southern build. Of course, without a *northern* build, you have a different set of...inconveniences. And, sadly, you have but the one build, which gives you a very tough decision. On the plus side, you could easily have had no build or even a disband, so this still rates as a successful turn.

Most improved: R, T
Largest decline: I, G

I could read your comments all day and still be captivated. Thanks CS!
Zenetar (225 D)
20 Jul 13 UTC
I've asked Tru Ninja for TA replacement. So far I've got no reply from him :(
cardcollector (1270 D)
21 Jul 13 UTC
Btw just putting this out there, I did not intend to build A-Brest. Dunno what happened, but it's done and I'm gonna work with what I have. Including no TA for now.
jmo1121109 (3812 D)
21 Jul 13 UTC
Tru Ninja has left the site while he starts a new job, if you have a problem contacting your TA please pm me immediately.
CSteinhardt (9560 D(B))
21 Jul 13 UTC
I was going to mention that build, and thought it might make more sense to wait and see how it's used. It's definitely not the build I would have picked, although remember I'm commenting without access to any of the press.

With that said, I've noticed that when somebody claims that the move made on the board wasn't the one they intended to make, it's, erm, how do I put this nicely, occasionally inaccurate. And, I can come up with several plausible scenarios in which it might be the build France would choose to order, if I'm a bit imaginative about what your press might have read this turn. Either way, it's the move on the board, so it's the one you get to use, and we'll see how you go about using it.
bump up the volume

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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
05 Sep 13 UTC
Obi, Where are you?
You always start off our football seasons with some wonderful predictions.
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
18 Aug 13 UTC
political compass?
Where do YOU fall?
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Draugnar (0 DX)
04 Sep 13 UTC
Because Jamie just can't get enough of my first week of school...
Here is my opening post for the second forum topic - The Challenges and Rewards of Social Entrepreneurships. Several poople posted before me so I only tackled previously unbroached topics.
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