Considering that it isn't true.....

@mendax, the truth is I don't think we can stop it. The big thing is we are in so much debt and printing so much money (b/c of liberal and conservative spending alike) that we cannot afford to stop. With the value of the dollar going under we may lose our position as the world's reserve currency. If you doubt the possibility of this just look at the deals going on between China and Russia who are trying to move away from the US in lines of dependent trade. We won't have another great depression but it will hit the lower class hard and the middle class will take a huge hit as well. Maybe even the rich will feel a little bit of the after effect.
@Sbyvl36, they have turned the party into a group of close minded, lying, ignorant, uninformed, and down right idiotic people whose only concern is fucking Christianity and what the bible deems as "moral values." I got news for you, the bible isn't the only biblical text out there and it sure as hell wasn't the first. What makes it more right than the others, and what gives the Tea Party the right to trample all over the 1st Amendment in freedom of expression (homosexuality) and freedom of religion?

And how would you know? You don't live here. Just because your beliefs are great where you're at doesn't mean they'll sit well here.

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare

Aww again with the personal attacks. Can't take it that maybe you are wrong and that what you want isn't what everyone else wants.

Just a note to Kramerkov, there are normal Christians out there (like me), no need to get a bad impression because of the extremists that don't even adhere to the bible lol.

"extremists that don't even adhere to the bible lol." I believe I've supported my argument with scripture passages. Go back a few pages and you'll find it.

I know we don't always agree ILN but you are fair and you do listen to others when having a discussion.

@ILN, you're right, I do not mean to make that sound like I view all Christians that way. I am Christian myself. I just can't stand this distorted view of religion to play on people's fears and desires. It is just sickening sometimes.

Hey Sbyvl you follow the kosher laws too? Or are you going to pick and choose which OT verses you follow?

I had no idea that quoting Scripture was distorted. Hrm.

I meant *used to prey on, but I guess that works too.

Sodomy Laws are in NT too.

Its funny how sbyvl affiliates himself with a religion of love and peace, one that advocates forgiveness and turning the other cheek, one that believes god created man with free will, and following god is only optional. Yet he believes in *forcing* others to abide by his morals, believes in punishment, and spews out more hatred than the Muslims he *despises*. Quite a christian you are.

idiot.

Wrong. I never said we should force anyone. But we must keep morality. Let me ask you: Are you in favor of polygamy?

No, but i don't deny other the freedom of others to participate in it.

Then why quote the OT and honestly your Bible means nothing to me so why should I listen to anything that comes from it?

I have nothing against polygamy as long as everyone within the relationship is consenting adults and everything is agreed upon throughout.

So where do you draw the line?

"I had no idea that quoting Scripture was distorted. Hrm."
Quoting scripture for the use of your own point of view when it is meant to be subjective is distortion. The bible is a guide meant to help some people find their own way. Not follow yours.

*deny others the freedom to participate in it

@CF: I quoted both the Old and New Testament.

"The bible is a guide meant to help some people find their own way. Not follow yours."
Well said

@kramer: So now you reject Scripture because it confirms what I said. Interesting debate strategy.

Hell, I haven't even fully read the Bible and probably won't for some time, if ever. I don't need a book to tell me how to be a good person, but for those who do read and adhere to the bible more power to you. Just let other people decide for themselves how they want to approach Christianity.

I drew my lines. Everyone must be consenting adult and agreed to everything within their relationship(s). I don't want to know or care what other people do in their bedroom. I don't get why that matters to you so much since it's not harming you. And yes I know you think it's a sin, but are you without sin?

So are you a Christian or not? You seem to dodge everything I say.

@CF: Civil authorities are in place to maintain God's laws.

Sbyvl is more like a pharisee