What you call "progress", we call "Marxism".

Now let me ask you something: What is your end goal? What do you want the country to look like when you're done with it?

In a simple phrase:

Equality of Opportunity

That is all I desire for anybody. As long as everybody has that, then I can put up with small injustices.

So Sbyvl What gives you the right to impose what you think is immoral, especially consider the majority of people are ok with divorce and gay marriage, on everyone?

Elaborate.

And you can't use "we". You're not a group. You're a solitary crank with no new ideas, and no real education.

I mean, I have to ask, because it might help me understand what on Earth is wrong with you... what do you do for a living. What is your background? (you can be non-specific, I'm honestly trying to see if I can even start to understand you)

I'm an attorney. I grew up in New York.

Is that what you were looking for?

with your poor understanding of case law?

I don't buy it.

What do you do for a living?

No, now I think you're a bad liar, on top of your other *sterling* qualities.

The nuclear industry.

I'm beng quite honest.

"poor understanding" bah.

You want to legislate your morals. You want to see what you deem immoral to be outlawed. What gives you the right to tell other people, especially those of us who don't hold to the same beliefs, how to lives our lives.

And so am I. I don't believe you. Unless you went to the equivalent of the University of Phoenix. You're way too ignorant of the actual law to have been educated in it.

So no, I don't believe you.

Because I am right and they are wrong.

@JK: That's your problem, not mine.

As I've said.. you're an authoritarian piece of shit. And a liar. You'd fit in well with the Taliban.. they're equally convinced their asshattery is "right" and everybody else is "wrong".

Every time I think I can't have more contempt and/or pity for you, you push the envelope.

You do realize that I despise Islam, right?

So? You're acting the same way. You and the fanatical Islamists share a conviction that you're absolutely right, and you have the right and duty to impose your views on others, regardless if they like it or not.

Thats what makes you an authoritarian piece of shit. You hate freedom, and the idea that somebody could do something you don't like, but harms nobody makes you want to oppress them.

You're the same.

Well damn that's all it takes. Well guys I know I'm right and Sbyvl here is wrong so let me impose all my beliefs onto him. Because you know if he doesn't want to get a divorce or have a gay marriage then he can choose not to, but damn just cause he doesn't want any part of something then let's just ban it all. What else are you against? What other fun can't we have?

Not necessarily if people like it or not. We'd have to get politicians that think like me elected to Congress.

Thank the goddess most people can see through your BS and won't elect them.

I mean, for example, I think sidewalk preachers babbling on about God and shit are annoying as fuck. I'd prefer not to be around that.

But I'm not saying that I have any right to stop them. They're allowed to indulge their nuttery in a public space as long as their not hurting anybody.

I mean, if you and your wife/gf/prostitute want to dress up in leather Nazi uniforms and engage in fisting, scat, and watersports, thats fine. Its your private life, and I have no right to say to two consenting adults what they can or cannot do in their private lives.

You are on the opposite side of freedom. That is why you're authoritarian, and one of the many reasons I have pity for you.

You know, that and the gay death camp thing. Weirdo.

Rand Paul, Mike Lee, and Ron Jonson in 2010
Ted Cruz and Tim Scott in 2012.

We're getting there

Here is a simple position:

"Don't like gay marriage? Then don't get one, and shut the fuck up"

Did I ever mention a sodomite death camp? No.

"Don't like anal sex? Then don't have anal sex!"

Here is another simple position:

"You want higher taxes? Then write a bigger check and shut up"