No, what we need is pe

Oh for fuck sake...

What we need is people not bumping my elegant formula for relationships yo the next page.

Age/2 + 7. It works.

bo - if you have a school full of 18 year old guys dating 14 year old, then you kiddies are more fucked up than I thought.

Krellin, no offense (actually feel free to take offense), it's been a long time since I've cared what you think.

I think the formula is interesting...but where is it from? Why +7?

More important, what about all the math-deifienct among the general population?

Yes, lol, why +7... why not 8? Or 6... meh...

I have no idea where that formula came from, but its been around for at least 5 years. I knew that in high school

I don't know where it's from. Just try it out with a few ages: it works very well.

Bo - why would I take offense at anything you say? Particularly if you think an 18 year old trying to get in a 14 year old girls pants is cool - then you are one fucked up kid, moreso then I thought...Again, Bo, you demonstrate yourself to be just another thoughtless sheep, going along with the crowd to be cool

@Abge,
I think your formula is broken.

I'm 32.
32/2=16
16+7=23

You're saying I can date somebody who *just graduated* college? I strongly disagree. I'd be an uber-creep.

"Bo - why would I take offense at anything you say?"

Ditto.

I will note, though, that the general consensus (age/2 +7) says YOU, BO, are wrong...

Have fun diddling the little girls, Bo...

>=18
It works

Krellin, you just questioned the formula minutes ago that Abge posted and now you are trying to use it against me. Who is the mindless one?

Anyway, I'm not dating a 14-year-old. I wouldn't date a 14-year-old.

Bo - I quetioned where it came from, not it's social valdity.

And if *YOU* wouldn't date a 14 year old, why would you defend an 18 year old that does. That makes you either a hypocrite or a liar. "Not for me...I think it's wrong...but if you want to..." says the immoral hypocrite.

I challenge you Bo, just once, to stand on principle instead of being such a sheep, too afraid to disagree with your peer group to make a stand.

If you don’t think it’s right for *you* to date a 14 year old at 18, because you think the age gap is too big, then be a man of principle, Bo, and say you just don’t think it’s right. Instead, you act like a pussy and waver and defend the perv guys that can’t find someone more appropriate who would prey after a child.

Here’s the deal Bo…if an 18 year old *touches* that 14 year old, it’s Statutory RAPE….THAT is why is wrong, dumbass.

I question the formula. I think it's fine at the low end and at the high end, but in your 30s to 50s it's too permissive. A 30-year-old should probably not be with a 22-year old. A 40-year old is too old for a 27-year old. A 50-year-old and a 32-year-old... maaaaybe. A 60-year-old and a 37-year-old? Sure, why not.

"And if *YOU* wouldn't date a 14 year old, why would you defend an 18 year old that does. That makes you either a hypocrite or a liar. "Not for me...I think it's wrong...but if you want to..." says the immoral hypocrite."

I wouldn't sleep with a guy either, but if another guy wants to, whatever, I don't care. I wouldn't have an interracial marriage, but if two other consenting people want to, sure, go for it. And I wouldn't date a 14-year-old girl at 17 but I don't mind if someone else wants to as long as the 14-year-old understands it, which most do, and is okay with it. That doesn't make me a hypocrite.

There is a four-year window. 21-year-olds can date 17-year-olds. 18-year-olds can have sex with 14-year-olds. As long as it's consenting, it's legal. At least in Indiana. I don't know about other states.

Being a man of principle basically means that if others don't do what you do, they are wrong. Being a man of thought instead of formulated principle means that if others don't do what you do, you think about it, consider their course of action, and determine whether or not there are scenarios where it can be acceptable.

I'm definitely not a man of principle. Sorry if that doesn't please other men of principle.

@hecks ... why? Obviously there is a social construct, but dissect it and tell me why. I'm obviously not in the majority here but I'm just getting the "it's weird" response instead of the "it's weird because" response.

A 30-year-old and a college senior have almost nothing in common. They won't share cultural references, priorities in life, friend groups... I guess it's not so much "it's weird" as "it's destined for failure and heartache".

Except with the 18-14 example. That's creepy not because of the age *difference* but because of the age of the 14 year old in general. There's a whole lot of brain development that goes on in late adolescence, a lot of it in the area of the brain that evaluates risk and reward. I think 14-year-olds aren't developed enough socially or neurologically to be making an informed decision about sex.

There will always be 14-year old girls more than ready to fornicate, although I would question their mental readiness if their target of choice was CM. 14/18 is pushing it *anectodal evidence inbound* but that's usually a case where the 14-year old girl is more mature than the 18-year old dude anyway, not to mention him probably being a pitiful loser because who the hell dates a 14 when you're 18 and your possibilities are limitless. Mind you, we had a 14 years age of consent when I was 14 (not that the limit, which is meant to protect children from sex abuse, will prevent consentual sex anyway - that's from the same sci-fi movie where children call police when their friends get wasted or high), although my biggest erotic thrill at that time was kissing a girl under blooming cherry tree in a park. Then the catholics and communists set it back to 15 because no one else cared to show up to the parliament to vote and we've been at 15 ever since. The reasoning for setting it to 14 in the first place was one of the most idiotic I ever heard, though. It was meant as a counterbalancing reward for setting the criminal responsibility to 14 years of age. In other words, if you're old enough for jail, you're old enough to fuck. Enjoy, kids!

What we really need is CMAid to raise funds to get him laid so he can progress in his life and continue to develop as a human being unhindered by the continuing ladies-obsession.

Little Boy Bo...if you don't give a shit what I say, then stop explaining yourself.

But one is curious...why wouldn't you date a 14 year old and try to get in her pants if it's OK? You demand that others explain why it's wrong (which Hecks did quite well...which also should be *obvious* to anyone...)....but why wouldn't you?

Better Question, Bo…when you bst 18 year old buddy starts dating a 14 year old (that you think is wrong “for you” to do), you gonna slap him on the back and tell him “Atta boy for getting’ you some kiddie stank!” and sit by in eager anticipation as he tells you how much fun it was to feel up the kiddie girl? Because…after all…you have no problem if your buddy seducing little girls with lollipops, right?

But...you know...what other people say doesn't matter to good sheep like you that wanna look cool in front of your pals. Baahhhhhh....

"I wouldn't have an interracial marriage"

If you would have said that back in that discussion about a year ago we'd be done so much earlier...

If I stop explaining myself, you'll accuse me of bailing on the discussion. And we can't have that now, can we, krellin? After all, we've spent all this time trying to get you to MAN UP and all.

Why wouldn't I date a 14-year-old girl? Because I can sing, play guitar, play drums, play sports, wear a silver chain, and can talk to girls better than I can guys. Sad as it may be those things get girls. And because girls don't get hotter than 18. Really, what kind of question is that? What reason would I have to go after a 14-year-old girl at all?

I'm friends with plenty of guys that don't know shit about sex because they've never had it and get a rager just by talking to a hot girl. It's so fucking pathetic that it's funny. Said girl turns their back to them and their mouths drop to the floor. Those are the guys that need a 14-year-old girl because they can't get anything else.

I'm not going to congratulate someone for dating a 14-year-old. What do you think this is, a contest?

Lol steephie, my bad. Standards always get in the way.

Bo...you make my case...so you approve of 18 year old guys trying to fuck 14 year olds because they aren't mentally mature enough to talk to someone their age...and you apparently think this is reasonable????

Let one of those rapist-wanna-be's near my 14 year old daughter and we'll see what happens...

Ironically....Bo himself is the product of inter-racial marriage, being part....uhhhhh....Native American...Indian...African Indian...whatever the fuck he is part of...

I'm one of those guys that prefers to be attracted to the girl he dates, krellin. Call me whatever you want but I don't see a problem with having nothing for the looks of girls of other racial backgrounds.

Else you'll find me staring. And that doesn't. go over well.

@hecks - you wouldn't believe how many 21 year olds I know who are dating people ~30. Its not to far off.