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Maniac (184 D(B))
16 Nov 13 UTC
Finally we have an answer..
Who ate all the pies?
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
16 Nov 13 UTC
Outsourced to America
Hey guys, just wanted to share with you a small personal triumph. For years some Americans were worried that their job would be outsourced to China. But a couple of months ago I recently took on my first Chinese client, which means that the Chinese have started outsourcing things to America.
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Mujus (1495 D(B))
16 Nov 13 UTC
(+1)
If you came with a warning label, what would it be?
You can also suggest warning labels for other members. :-)
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philcore (317 D(S))
16 Nov 13 UTC
sugar daddies thread silencing ....
Cmon the LED chandelier site was ok because zultar expressed interest ... This one could have led (no pun intended) to some interesting discussion nice krellen got a hold of it! And Bosox since I couldn't say it there because it was already locked ... Big +1 for the draug comment!
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Celticfox (100 D(B))
16 Nov 13 UTC
PS4
I believe this was released today. Anyone pick it up and have any reviews on it?
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DavidCharles765 (100 D)
16 Nov 13 UTC
Sugar Daddies
As I'm a gay, I always try to find a best partner for mine. I have tried so many sites those provide arrangements for us. GayArrangement.com is one of these sites. I find this site very helpful for me. So, I want to see all of the best sugar daddies in this site, because you can find me there waiting for you.
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redpanda (100 D)
14 Nov 13 UTC
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What "players can end the game by agreement" means literally?
May I ask a question about the rulebook?
(I am not an native speaker of English. I am Japanese.)

redpanda (100 D)
14 Nov 13 UTC
In the rulebook, there is a passage "players can end the game by agreement before a winner is determined."
Which is the natural interpretation of this sentene?
(i) If all players agree to draw, then the game ends.
(ii) If more than half players agree to draw, then the game ends.
Of course, I know (i) is realized in this site. But I want to know the natural intuition of what the sentence literally means in English.
It's (i). If all players remaining in the game agree to end the game, then they can end the game. Not a majority. On this site, they also could agree to end the game with a Cancel rather than a Draw.
redpanda (100 D)
14 Nov 13 UTC
【background】
In Japan, there is some local rules about when the game ends (except some player wins).
One is that when more than half players agree to draw, which is realized in a certain online Diplomacy in Japanese.
Another one is that when when pkayers whose SC are more than 22/34 in sum agree to draw, which was realized in a certain online Diplomacy in Japanese.
stupidfighter (253 D)
14 Nov 13 UTC
That's actually an interesting question. As written, the rules are ambiguous. A qualifier like "all players" or "a majority" would be needed to be 100% sure of the meaning.

My personal verdict- it could easily mean either (i) or (ii).
Also, I could argue plausibly that this sentence means players could, by agreement, set different parameters on the game, such as limiting it to a maximum of ten years.
stupidfighter (253 D)
14 Nov 13 UTC
On further reflection, I'm going to argue in favor of (i).

While it could be interpreted as (ii), it would be stretching the definition of agreement. An agreement implies consent of all parties involved. (ii) would be better described as a "vote", not an agreement.
JECE (1248 D)
14 Nov 13 UTC
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redpanda: That's a good question. I would defer to one of the most basic principles of customary international law, though: that counties must agree in some way to international agreements or customs if those agreements or customs are to apply to their country. That's an oversimplification, but I think that it's an important point.
Alderian (2425 D(S))
14 Nov 13 UTC
I like what sf said: "An agreement implies consent of all parties involved."

But, if all parties at the start of the game agree that towards the end of the game it takes 22/34th of the centers to vote draw, then so be it.

It seems to me that it could be either (i) or (ii) or anything else, all depending on what is agreed upon ahead of time.
Maniac (184 D(B))
14 Nov 13 UTC
Remember that the rules were originally written for face to face. I would suggest that if 3 out of 4 remaining players agreed to end the game, the game ends. Think about it, the game couldn't continue if 3 players walked away. Sure one guy could sit there and take his own moves and 'win' but by definition that wouldn't be a game. The game ends when all but one player agree (to walk away).
Ramsu (100 D)
14 Nov 13 UTC
The ii) has been implemented on vdip, and I quite like it.
redpanda (100 D)
14 Nov 13 UTC
Thank you for many replies.
I found what I wanted to know was "An agreement implies consent of all parties involved", namely the conception of agreement, though other replies also are interesting.

I will comments on some of the replies.

>Maniac
I am afraid that the idea "the game ends when all but one player agree" may generates unhappy results. Suppose a 17 SC player is going to win in next turn. Then other players "agree" to end the game to stop his win. In general, an ending rule must be such that it cannot be used to such an aim. Of course, (i) is good and (ii) is bad in this view. ("More than 22/34" rule is NOT bad, because any player who is at most 11 SC will not "dash" to win.)

>stupidfighter
In contrast to your own name, you understand accurately what I want to know from my poor passage. Than you.
It seems to me that the word corresponding "agree"in Japanese does not imply (or at least does not clearly imply) "all the party," so translations sometimes misled many Japanese including me.
hecks (164 D)
14 Nov 13 UTC
Functionally, when playing the board game, it usually means when somebody has to go home and the remaining players decide it's not worth continuing without him/her. Either that or when the beer runs out.
Maniac (184 D(B))
14 Nov 13 UTC
@redpanda - the question was about the literal meaning of the rules. One shouldn't look at the effect of the rules when looking at the literal meaning. I still maintain that the literal meaning of the rules is that the game ends when all but 1 of the remaining players agree that it ends.

I agree that this probably was not the intention.
JECE (1248 D)
16 Nov 13 UTC
redpanda: I wouldn't say that 'agreement' necessarily implies unanimity. The rules could have used better wording. But I would say that an agreement requires the assent of all parties in some way or another. If all players agreed at the start of a game to end the game with a 50% vote in favor, then I suppose that you might be able to read the rules as requiring the game to be drawn should two out of three players later agree to a pause.
taos (281 D)
16 Nov 13 UTC
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If not all players on the board voted draw it will not be an agreement but an enforcement.
Alderian (2425 D(S))
16 Nov 13 UTC
Unless it was a per-arranged agreement. Just like you can agree ahead of time to ending the game based on the game year, you can agree ahead of time to the draw rules.

I think the rules being not entirely clear gives players room for whatever flexibility they want. Nothing wrong with that, IMHO.


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steephie22 (182 D(S))
15 Nov 13 UTC
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Anyone else jealous...
At all those kids who get to play webdiplomacy at school? I never could :(
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daniyhungre (100 D)
15 Nov 13 UTC
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Please Keep DC35 Banned
As someone who plays on the school wifi with him I know that he has been making multiple accounts and playing games. I'm sorry that people at my school are retards. He is not my friend and I do not want to play with him. Although I do know people in my school that have been unrightfully banned DC35 is not one of them.
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SYnapse (0 DX)
15 Nov 13 UTC
US Veteran for President
The music was a nice touch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=akm3nYN8aG8
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
06 Nov 13 UTC
TORONTO MAYOR ROB FORD
admits to smoking crack. Anyone follow this issue?
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Will16 (100 D)
15 Nov 13 UTC
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Unban DC35
My friend DC35, was un rightfully banned from this game, because he was accused on meta gaming, from no real source.
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DogeKingofPINGAS (0 DX)
15 Nov 13 UTC
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DC35 is back
Wow.. These mods suck, this is the longest i've gone without getting banned
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unban_DC35 (0 DX)
15 Nov 13 UTC
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Unban DC35
If any mod sees this please understand that my real account, DC35, has been banned. I would extremely appreciate it if it were unbanned but if this cannot be done then so be it... I have not metagamed and only made other accounts when i was banned again.... i don't think that the mod i am in contact with understands this
ALL I WANT TO DO IS PLAY WITH MIS AMIGOS
Please understand mods.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
15 Nov 13 UTC
TPP
Any of you knowledgable folk want to let me know what this Trans-Pacific Partnership is? Mass media is unusually silent on it.
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SYnapse (0 DX)
15 Nov 13 UTC
Whats your favourite Jmo?
Mine's this airplane currently over Tunisia:

http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/hb-jmo
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Strauss (758 D)
14 Nov 13 UTC
Nothing more to say
What an asshole, England didn't cancel this game.

gameID=129523
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tendmote (100 D(B))
15 Nov 13 UTC
What is the purpose of forum discussions?
What is the purpose of forum discussions? What properties should a desirable outcome of a discussion possess?
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
15 Nov 13 UTC
On the Greatest Discussion Thread of the Discussion Board: A Thread
first
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Bob Genghiskhan (1228 D)
15 Nov 13 UTC
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Why would anyone join a game they weren't going to show up for?
It's really shitty behavior.
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badpolitician22 (0 DX)
14 Nov 13 UTC
JOIN THE LIVE GAME
PLEASE JOIN THE LIVE GAMES
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tfwood (100 D)
14 Nov 13 UTC
anonymous game
How is an anonymous game different from a gunboat game?
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Conservative Man (100 D)
13 Nov 13 UTC
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Its me again, your old friend CM
I need some advice, but this is quite a bit different than any previous advice I've needed.
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
12 Nov 13 UTC
Is it weird to retry a test for which I got an 8,8 out of 10 ...
... if I can retry that one or something less relevant or with a higher note? The note counts as a fraction of an end-exam, as opposed to just pass the year as usual. People tell me it's a waste of time and such... What do you think?
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Mujus (1495 D(B))
12 Nov 13 UTC
Discuss.
(Who(m) am I mocking??) :-)
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krellin (80 DX)
13 Nov 13 UTC
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JMO is...
....such a foul specimen of humanity he makes a one legged, toothless crack whore look charming...
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
14 Nov 13 UTC
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This Is Why Obamacare Is (NOT) Awesome
More people signed a White House petition to construct the Death Star online (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/isnt-petition-response-youre-looking) than signed up for Obamacare online in its first month. (http://www.nbcnews.com/health/26-000-signed-through-federal-obamacare-website-first-month-administration-2 D11591428)
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principians (881 D)
11 Nov 13 UTC
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about mexican violence
Though I know many interesting videos and info in spanish, I just recently found a pair of videos in english.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Nov 13 UTC
ADVERTISE YOUR RENEWED FREEDOMS HERE
Utilize this thread by doing things that used to get you silenced here and only here.
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Hyperion (1029 D)
14 Nov 13 UTC
Sengoku Variant
In vDiplomacy, one of the variants that caught my eye was the Sengoku variant.
Link: http://vdiplomacy.com/variants.php?variantID=27
Would it be possible to import this into webDiplomacy?
If not, what is the basis for importing new variants, such as, more recently, the Modern Diplomacy variant?
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