There's a reason it says right in the CONSTITUTION

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all __MEN__ are CREATED equal [but the lazy one's deserve what they git], that they are endowed by their CREATOR with certain unalianable rights. That among these rights are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness."

Read em and weep.

WOOOOOOOSH like a fart in the wind

I actually agree with krellin, that the world is moving towards the equivocation of gender. Anyone in high school will tell you that. But, the fact is that it's basically unstoppable. Children are taught at a young age that promiscuity is both attractive and normal, so they naturally grow up to be as sexually devious as they can be. And since when you compare the conservative and liberal agendas next to each other in the mind of a child, the liberal one will win out. Children assume that what 'feels right' is right. If you disagree, you should have attended prom at my school last year. (And I live in the suburbs. I hear it's far worse in inner-city schools.)

Regardless, the moment parents ease control over their children, they all run around like their inexperienced idiot peers. And since in modern youth culture, it is acceptable to be and to support LGBT (don't argue with me on this point unless you're younger than me), it only seems normal for kids to explore their sexuality as early as possible. And once that happens, the barrier between gender becomes blurred. Krellin has a valid reason to be up in flames, but I'll tell you again that the whole thing is just an inevitable product of a free society (I also hear it's worse in Europe as well).

krellin, a year ago, I'd have supported what you're saying, but if the world turns to crap, you just got to get more cynical. You don't have to support it, but your words are not appreciated and not even heard today. If it came to a vote, I'm pretty sure there would be a consensus that your views have no place in society. But if you're still mad, just go write a manifesto about how much you hate the direction the world is turning. You can try and stop it, but the world will just turn without you.

It's taken me a long time to realize it, since others like krellin are more obvious candidates; but I now see that Thucy is by far the easiest person on this forum to send into fits of irrational sputtering.

(Consider the above a friendly PSA to all the local trolls).

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semck, that's not fair. He's always in a fit of irrational sputtering.

Actually, different does mean unequal, at least in the context that you're using it.

"Children are taught at a young age that promiscuity is both attractive and normal, so they naturally grow up to be as sexually devious as they can be."

This seems to be a contradiction in terms. Are children taught to be promiscuous, or are they that way naturally?

"the moment parents ease control over their children, they all run around like their inexperienced idiot peers"

The clear solution is to stop controlling our children. Teach children self-control, teach them that they are powerful, and show them love the whole way, and you won't have to control your children.

@ Thucy - just wondering, are you married? Dated much? Are your parents still married or cohabiting (if they ever were)? Do you have kids? Have you ever coached boys and girls in the same sport? Just trying to get a feel for if you have any real-life experience with gender or if it's all ivory tower theory to you.

we stopped complaining when we started slinging

I don't know what madness has struck Thucy, but I must point out two things to him:

First, that quote isn't from the Constitution. It is from the Declaration of Independence. Please get your documents right in the future.

Second, all men are created equal. We all.come.out of our mothers naked and hungry and crying. Pretty equal. What we do from there is up to us. By the time we reach adulthood, we are no longer equal because some.of us worked hard and some.of us were lazy ass gits.

yes because thats all that goes into "equality" Draug you twit. You are either lazy or not.

Draugnar, what we do from birth is not entirely up to us. Don't delude yourself with that myth. Our parents and circumstance directly shape our present for at least a decade, for many people, two decades. There are exceptions. I acknowledge that. There's a reason they're called "exceptions;" due to their deviance from the norm, we give this title. I expect you were speaking very generally, but I do want to know if you honestly believe what you wrote or if you believe something more nuanced like I suggest.

And Draug once again again demonstrates his complete disconnect from the people outside of his class, and while making a particularly absurd claim about equality, no less.

Draug doesn't really believe this shit, he just gets his idiot bravado from time to time and turns into Krellin lite (all the stupidity a fraction of the racial slurs)

LOL! Santa has me.figured out! I was trolling the Thucy troll and grabbed several others in the net!

Now the quote is from.the D of I not the Constitution. And all men.should.have equal rights and.equal access (and I will admit they don't or we would see more men.of.color in the top echelons of.business amd.politics, not.just one half breed as president).

"(I also hear it's worse in Europe as well)."


No. It's not. Sorry!

"Men and Women are Different."
-My official reaction after seeing this thread title:
http://www.twistappel.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/bert-and-ernie-reaction.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atgyXNHiim0

wrong thread my bad,

POLES AND HOLES MY FRIENDS

POLES AND HOLES

#TCOT

@DRAUGNAR

Have you even READ the Constitution????

@FlemGem

Ill have you know my wife is the most beautiful woman in the world

the most beautiful i tell you

and that's all i'll say about her

are you guys assuming that all boys are the same as all other boys and all girls are the same as all other girls?
Id like to think that in 2013 we all realize that there is a rainbow of differences between everyone

and stop studying the monkeys

"rainbow of differences between everyone..." Sure there is...and the rainbow being a rather limited scope of the entire electro-magnetic spectrum, this means humanity is in fact more consistent than it is diverse...and girls *tend* to fall into a particular set of shades, and boys *tend* to fall in another (overlapping) set of shades...but on average are different.

Nobody is suggesting that everyone is the same, or even that all boys or all girls are the same...but to deny that there are certain *tendencies* is stupid.

For example, human tend to *not* eat their babies...thus, if a human wants to eat their babies, we frown upon this. An extreme example, but an example none the less. Like it or not, humans are creatures of habit, and in order to get along in a *society* we like to see people fit within norms. Baby-eating, not normal, frowned upon. Other behaviors are less obvious, but when my male or female child starts expressing gender-type behavior, that is not a bad thing -- it is a normal thing, but SOME around here would actually seek to destroy that natural tendency and seek gender-nuetrality for all.

imposible to destroy human tendencies; we always fight control

Sure, there will always be genetic AND societal differences between women. However, the women within the UK and the USA complaining about women's rights within their country really don't know what they are talking about when put in comparsion with countries like India and Saudi Arabia.
Also,
http://www.learnliberty.org/content/do-women-earn-less-men

@ Thucy - I'll take that as a "no" on all counts. Sorry to hear it.

Hey now our 35th is next month, don't hate the player hate the game

If you want a wife you just have to learn what women want - they want a stable guy with traditional values. My beautiful wife likes that.

My wife is beautiful, by the way.

I feel sorry for you young liberal goons who only know love for a night

+35....for Thucy. amen, brother. Love my wife...she loves me...and hell yeah, 35 years is awesome bro. Wife and I have survived some shit....bet you have survived more....and I'll bet....

....You understand that LIFE...and RELATIONSHIPS....are MORE about COMRPOMISE and agreement, than they are about all these *fucked up* liberal ideas about gender roles, and shit. Telll me, true or false...would a Liberal Life have given you 35 years? Or three divorces?