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Indybroughton (3407 D(G))
01 Mar 13 UTC
Get it while it's hot: France, 5 SCs, no foreign troops
Great opportunity before the neighbors come knocking!
gameID=110931
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Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
01 Mar 13 UTC
EOG Fast Europe - 22
gameID=111467

A lesson for Italy in not attacking Austria. :)
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
01 Mar 13 UTC
I don't mean to knock Catholics
Because without Catholics, there would be no...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSZ77SkAbI8
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TheMinisterOfWar (553 D)
22 Feb 13 UTC
Rank / Position / Rating
Can somebody clarify me on the different ways players are categorized? How is 'rank' calculated? How is 'position' calculated? How is the GR calculated?
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krellin (80 DX)
28 Feb 13 UTC
Sky if Faling...Or Not...
Geee...the Liar in Chief Obama, after telling us how horrifying Sequester would be...er...well, maybe not so much. And how many of *you* bought his lies hook, line and sinker? (I can name a few...)

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/28/obama-says-sequesters-might-not-be-felt-right-away/
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
05 Jun 12 UTC
The Great Debate: Mujus, Crazy Anglican, Nigee, semck, SC vs. My Fellow Atheists?
It seems as if we have a new wave of vocal and talented Christian thinkers, who certainly seem as willing as I to type on the matter, albeit from the other end--so, care to debate, say, 2-4 Christians vs. the same # of Atheists, on a thread w/ a neutral moderator, we each give an opening statement in succession (say, 500-1000 words or less), one rebuttal per person, and then open it up for questions, side with the most +1s for their comments "wins?"
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
26 Feb 13 UTC
Sexist Pig, Re-Heated Family Guy Leftovers, or Fresh New Take--McFarlane as Oscars Host?
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2013/02/seth-macfarlane-and-the-oscars-hostile-ugly-sexist-night.html So the reviews for the Aesthete Super Bowl known as the Oscars are in...and pretty much it's an even split, some loving the job Seth McFarlane did and others, like Ms. Davidson here, finding his turn as Oscar host incredibly offensive...and "misogynistic" seems to be the chief complaint against him--agree with that, disagree...your take?
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
26 Feb 13 UTC
My view:

A little from each column...but I'd have to settle on the middle descriptor.

It isn't that McFarlane didn't pull some arguably sexist things off...
The "We Saw Your Boobs" song (I'll get to it in a minute)...
The Domestic Abuse Joke...
Quite a few others...

But what I think the author of this article fails to realize is:

1. the man makes fun of EVERYONE...blacks, Jews, the Religious Right (so plenty of white people), Abe Lincoln himself...all and more were also targeted last night...it's not as if he as singling out women or Jews or any other one group and blasting them alone for 4 hours, I felt he spread his "offensiveness" around and, oddly enough, that makes it less offensive somehow, when it's not malicious and narrowly-targeted but just a wide stupid stream of "Let's see if I can't somehow make enough jokes that somehow cover everyone in this theatre and on TV." I didn't get offended at the Jew jokes (and those who found them "Anti-Semitic," I think, are stretching it WAY too far...there's a difference between a Jew Joke and an Anti-Semitic Joke, not all Jew Jokes are cruel or Anti-Semitic and vicious, and there's nothing vicious or cruel in making a joke about being Jewish to work in Hollywood...hell, Monty Python made a similar joke--"We Won't Succeed On Broadway (If We Don't Have Any Jews)"--in the acclaimed "Spamalot," and that doesn't seem to get people up in arms) and I don't think most people were, either. They weren't malicious, so just roll with it or roll your eyes.

And

2. the OSCARS KNEW WHAT THEY WERE GETTING WHEN THEY HIRED HIM...I'm sorry, but if you hired The Joker to be the birthday clown at your kid's party, you can't then be shocked that there are less balloon animals and more explosive fights with Batman in your backyard. If anyone's to "blame" (if we even have to assign blame at all) it's the people who hired him...the man's style is well-known, it was no secret what they were getting, and they knew his being offensive would generate a lot of buzz and ratings...that's why I don't buy that his Oscar performance was part of some wider attack on women in the industry and in the American workplace. Women DO face issues in the industry and face MANY issues in the American workplace, and that's no joke for sure, but a fact--that being said, this wasn't done to target women and degrade them, it was done to grab ratings, that's all, there was no malicious intent behind it.

THAT being said...

Much the same way I DID like Billy Crystal's sketch as Sammy Davis Jr. last year, and the "We Saw Your Boobs" skit this year in a guilty sort of way...

I will simultaneously say yeah, Crystal probably shouldn't have done a quasi-blackface skit, even if it was based on an old character of his and was done for just a couple seconds with no malicious intent (that phrase seems to come up a lot in this post, but I feel it's key)...and McFarlane probably shouldn't have done the boobs song...

At the same time, NEITHER are worthy of drawing THIS level of ire, I think; if you make a case of everything from the vantage point of any cause, you quickly come across as a PETA-esque group of attention-seeking whiners, which is NOT what feminists in this country should strive to come across as--it'll cripple their effectiveness and make people unwilling to listen to them or unable to take them seriously.

Don'y knock Billy Crystal, a pretty damn nice guy, too hard for his SDJ bit--save that ire and political capital for when the KKK marches in Memphis (as they're planning to have a huge rally soon) or when racial profiling and the like comes up.

Don't waste your time on a stooge like McFarlane and a stupid (if damned-ably catchy) song...save that energy for getting women equal pay in the workplace and for people such as Congressman Akin and comments that are, well, "akin" to his "legitimate rape/the female body has ways of shutting that down" debacle.

As a comedian, McFarlane is one of the most hit-or-miss, love-or-hate people out there.

Thus, McFarlane was a so-so host...he made things interesting...he was very raw...

I think he REALLY tried too hard to go out there for the first time, and he maybe shouldn't have made a couple of those jokes..

At the same time, I'd be lying if I didn't say I found him a more engaging host than most, if only for (mostly) all the wrong reasons. (Though he did give us a Captain Kirk cameo, so nerd props there.) :)

Not a Family Guy fan, at all...but eh...he was so-so...

And probably went a bit too far, but I guarantee everyone was hanging on his every word more than is the case with most Oscar hosts, just to see who would be targeted next, so perhaps that's just the trade-off. In any case, I didn't think it was any great crime against Feminism...maybe just a misdemeanor at most, send all the ladies in the "Boobs" song flowers and make it clear there was nothing personal and call it an Oscars.
Celticfox (100 D(B))
26 Feb 13 UTC
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Have to say as a women I found the We saw your boobs skit absolutely hilarious. You don't want someone to comment on them then don't show them in a movie.
hecks (164 D)
26 Feb 13 UTC
I guess the real question is not whether people were offended, but whether people watched. In the end, the network and its advertisers don't care whether you liked the, as long as you watched, and will do so again next year.
Me, I didn't watch, not because I was concerned about being offended but because no matter who's hosting, I find awards shows incredibly boring.
Celticfox (100 D(B))
26 Feb 13 UTC
I watched it via Hulu yesterday.
Draugnar (0 DX)
26 Feb 13 UTC
Highlights baby! Virtually every performance and skit can be found online and then you can look up who the winners actually were.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
26 Feb 13 UTC
I love it when women like Celticfox temper the sentiments of over-eager men thinking they're jumping into the line of fire for women in this kind of affair.
Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
26 Feb 13 UTC
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that moment when you are scrolling upwards to get to top, and know obiwan posted before you see his name....
Draugnar (0 DX)
26 Feb 13 UTC
YJ +infinity!
redhouse1938 (429 D)
26 Feb 13 UTC
I categorically refuse so much as to scan it.
dubmdell (556 D)
26 Feb 13 UTC
I was watching that song and channeling my inner Thucy (#fuckthucy), and all I could think was, "If we were living in a matriarchal society, this song would instead be 'We Saw Your Dick,' and boy, if that were the case, I sure would be offended!"

Celtic is spot on, per usual.
Yonni (136 D(S))
26 Feb 13 UTC
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Seth McFarlane offends my sense of humor.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
26 Feb 13 UTC
"Have to say as a women I found the We saw your boobs skit absolutely hilarious. You don't want someone to comment on them then don't show them in a movie."

I agree, Celticfox--

It's not as if it was a slut-shaming or an attack...and anyway, yeah, they chose the roles (and hey, it was one of the few times all night I got one of his movie references with Kate Winslet in "Hamlet," so don't take that away from me, damn it!) so it's on them...and it's not as if it's anything to be ashamed about either, if I understand corrrectly, most of those actresses were good actresses and those movies good movies, so it wasn't taking a shot at their not being quality professionals...
Draugnar (0 DX)
26 Feb 13 UTC
But it was hillarious when he rattled off *all* of Winslet's films where she showed her boobs!
Celticfox (100 D(B))
27 Feb 13 UTC
Exactly Draug. I've never understood why some people get offended at obvious jokes like that. Everyone got made of at some point during the night.
Gunfighter06 (224 D)
27 Feb 13 UTC
I don't use caps lock that often, but when I do...

AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS THAT ARGO DID NOT DESERVE BEST PICTURE?!?!?!?!
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
27 Feb 13 UTC
I don't use caps lock that often, but when I do...

AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT DOESN'T GIVE A CRAP ABOUT ANYTHING RELATED TO THE OSCARS?!?!?!?!?!
Draugnar (0 DX)
27 Feb 13 UTC
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I don't use caps lock that often, but when I do...

AM I THE ONLY ONE THINKS THE HOBBIT GOT RIPPED OFF?!?!?!?!?!?!
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
27 Feb 13 UTC
I don't use caps lock that often, but when I do...

YES?!?!?!?!?!?!
dubmdell (556 D)
27 Feb 13 UTC
bo_sox, SHUT THE FUCK UP! http://i.imgur.com/U9mt72m.png
I didn't see the other nominees, but when I saw it Argo hardly struck me even as a Best Picture nominee. I liked it and it was a fun Action movie. Tell me what Argo reveals about the human experience? What was its profound contribution to film making. Again I didn't see the other nominees and these guys know alot more than I do, but it hardly seemed to fit the bill for me.
and on the oi (original idiot's) post, McFarland did go too far on a few occasions.

1. The Boobs opening was in bad taste
2. The rihanna Joke was wrong place wrong time
3. The Denzel Washington/ Eddie Murphy joke was unfunny, and the only way it was funny is if you think (ironically or not) racist.

I thought the fuss over the Lincoln joke was lame, that was a damn good joke. He could have done Seth McFarland humor without crossing several lines into sexist and racist punchlines, but he chose to cross it without any real benefit to the show.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
27 Feb 13 UTC
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...Sethe McFarlane Humor without crossing sexist and racist lines?

Have you SEEN the man's body of work?

That's like asking Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly to serve as hosts at the White House Correspondent's Dinner and NOT cross those political, racial, sexist lines.

I'm sorry, but the man was hired to do a job and whether it was in poor taste or not is less his fault and more the fault of the people who hired him hoping for A and being shocked at getting B instead when the man's whole work screams B.

1. It was in bad taste, but a good joke can be...I actually think the problem is he didn't go far ENOUGH in a way--that is, if he'd sung about women AND men in nude scenes, I think he'd have been fine, I think people take issue with the Boobs song more for allegedly just picking on women and being misogynistic than for it being out-and-out offensive...if he'd poked fun at all the men who lose their shirts (and you could've made a good Captain Kirk joke about that, considering they even had Shatner) as well as women doing so, I think it'd have gone over better critically.

2. Maybe I heard the joke wrong, but while it's dark, it didn't seem in favor of domestic abuse...not when i heard it...

3. That was just a stupid joke, really, not too offensive but not too funny, either, just stupid
no, it isn't, the man's humor is actually really good without resorting to boob jokes, (ironic) racist jokes, and woman beating jokes on national television. He had a chance to show his ability and versatility, he just chose to show he thinks boobs, women beating and (ironically) racist jokes are so hilarious
I mean for christ sakes the guy makes his living by making obscure pop culture references, this should have been his crowning as the king of comedy, but he had to make (another) tired chris brown joke

An how stupid do you need to be to go in and tell a viscous joke (wildly funny or not) about a leading member of the acting community (mel gibson) referencing the N word none the less in front of a gathering of the entertainment industry. Takes a special kind of stupid...
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
27 Feb 13 UTC
"I mean for christ sakes the guy makes his living by making obscure pop culture references,"

The man makes his living by that...AND with his sexually/racially/politically-charged jokes.

I'm not a fan of FG or AD, but come on...you CAN'T deny that's an immense part of the McFarlane oeuvre and style, as it were.

"An how stupid do you need to be to go in and tell a viscous joke (wildly funny or not) about a leading member of the acting community (mel gibson)"

1. Leading member of the acting community? Maybe in 1995, NOT in 2013, he's a complete burn out, dropped by agents and a pariah of sorts, and well-deserved.
2. It was a well, well, WELL-deserved shot at the abusive, misogynistic, Anti-Semitic bastard
3. REALLY, SC? All those back and forths on your trumpeting your ideal of Jewishness against mine, and you're saying a joke at the expense of one of the nastier Anti-Semites in Hollywood was a stupid move? I have to agree with McFarlane's response to the boos in response to that joke: "Really? so you're on his side?" Should we keep from making jokes at Saddam's expense? He was once a "leading member" of his community too, after all...

That said, yeah, his referencing the N word was pretty damn stupid.
Gunfighter06 (224 D)
27 Feb 13 UTC
Obi is right. The Oscars should have known what they were getting when they hired him. Watch a couple of episodes of Family Guy and learn the guy's style before you hired him. He didn't say or do anything that he wouldn't put in a Family Guy episode.

I *normally* don't care about the Oscars but Argo DID NOT deserve best picture. To immortalize Argo with Citizen Kane, Casablanca, and Gone With The Wind (and even Patton and Unforgiven) is an insult to those masterpieces. Was it a first-rate action movie? Absolutely. But by that logic, Rambo and Black Hawk Down are the best movies of all time.
Octavious (2701 D)
27 Feb 13 UTC
Hang on a second... People actually watch the Oscars? The whole thing??? I thought it was something people just looked up in the papers the next day, like County Cricket scores and famous people who've just died.
EvW (261 D)
27 Feb 13 UTC
*Heath Ledger voice*

Why so serious?
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
27 Feb 13 UTC
I was prepared to just skip most of the show and maybe tune in late to catch the Best Actress/Actor/Director/Picture quartet of major awards, as they usually save most of those for the end, and of course Best Picture for last...

But then 1. The Ducks were getting their asses kicked by the Avalanche, and 2. I flipped back for just a second as a result, and there was William Shatner as Captain Kirk, so the Trekker in me HAD to see where this was going...one infamous-if-inappropriate song about boobs later, I just had to see what else the guy was going to say--

Because a man who'll go through black, gay, and boob jokes in liberal-heavy Hollywood in the first 10 minutes is a guy who'll say ANYTHING, and there's something to be said for the entertainment value of such people (that and, like a great many people, I always enjoy seeing stars getting knocked off their pedestals now and again...so if they picked the guy solely for ratings, they picked the right guy, he certainly kept people like me who would normally be tuned out tuned in, just to see how much more of an over-the-top train wreck the normally-dignified night would become.) ;)
Thucydides (864 D(B))
28 Feb 13 UTC
I love America. I love Oscares award show. I love boobs. I am man. I am proud. I do not apologize for being man.
"1. Leading member of the acting community? Maybe in 1995, NOT in 2013, he's a complete burn out, dropped by agents and a pariah of sorts, and well-deserved."

He obviously still has many friends from being the top A-list star, yuu obviously haven't seen everyone who still defends him, and if you have any more questions check out the crowds reaction. It was wildly stupid thing to do and at best, a joke that was on the shelf for 3 years. But keep talking out of your ass obi its what you do best.

"3. REALLY, SC? All those back and forths on your trumpeting your ideal of Jewishness against mine, and you're saying a joke at the expense of one of the nastier Anti-Semites in Hollywood was a stupid move? I have to agree with McFarlane's response to the boos in response to that joke: "Really? so you're on his side?" Should we keep from making jokes at Saddam's expense? He was once a "leading member" of his community too, after all..."

This has nothing to do with being Jewish or what Gibson said. I would resent you bringing it up, but we all know already you have no shame.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
28 Feb 13 UTC
"He obviously still has many friends from being the top A-list star, yuu obviously haven't seen everyone who still defends him,"

That doesn't mean he's still an A-lister...sorry, what's he been in, lately?

Acting roles in film since 2004:
2004 Paparazzi Anger Management Therapy Patient Uncredited
2010 Edge of Darkness Tom Craven
2011 The Beaver Walter Black
2012 Get the Gringo Driver
2013 Machete Kills Luther Voz Main Antagonist Principal/Villain
2014 The Drowner

WOW...what a stirring, A-list actor's resume for sure!

But hey, maybe I'm being unfair, what about his directorial work?

...Oh...nothing since the also-controversial "Apocalypto"...in 2006..7 years ago...

Not quite an A-list resume there EITHER, hm?

So, tell me again--he's still an A-list actor HOW?
An A-list director HOW?
A relevant person outside the courtroom and White Pride circles HOW?

"if you have any more questions check out the crowds reaction."

That they were sensitive or else thought the joke was a bad one doesn't make Gibson an A-lister, what sort of logic is that?

"But keep talking out of your ass obi its what you do best."

I do confess, you're far, far better at that than, I, SC...insisting Gibson's still an A-lister with that above record...hah...next you're going to tell me Ryan Leaf is still a viable NFL quarterback, right?

"This has nothing to do with being Jewish or what Gibson said."

Given it was a joke at the expense of Gibson, what Gibson said, and McFarlane's "Really? you're on HIS side?" follow-up indicates that he's taking issue with Gibson's Anti-Semitic, abusive self...yeah, I'd say those are pertinent...

"I would resent you bringing it up, but we all know already you have no shame."

And we already know you won't let things die, or leave me alone...you WILL take issue with a joke at Mel Gibson's expense and continue to call him an A-lister despite all the evidence to the contrary (the above shambles-of-a-career doesn't even include his debacles concerning his wife, other religions, and his being dropped by his own agent--because that's what happens to A-listers, right?)
fulhamish (4134 D)
28 Feb 13 UTC
Ah yes all those terrifc historical epics - Gallipoli, Braveheart and that crap about the first American Civil war - the name escapes me. A safe and dependable generic villan in the lot of them. Was the hero in the one about the Americans who cracked the Enigma Code too, or am I getting confused?
ulytau (541 D)
28 Feb 13 UTC
I do not believe a single thing Thucydides wrote in this thread.
Gunfighter06 (224 D)
28 Feb 13 UTC
"First" American civil war?
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
28 Feb 13 UTC
The war on Italians, the war on Irish, the war on Spaniards, the war on Indians, the war on Germans, the war on Russians, the war on Mexicans... Americans fighting Americans ;)


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Mujus (1495 D(B))
24 Feb 13 UTC
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A Promise for Israel
The Today's Bible Reading thread includes this psalm today that has an amazing promise for Israel. (This is an occasional special posting so if your mind is completely closed to the Bible, just mute this thread.)
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erist (228 D(B))
28 Feb 13 UTC
That feeling
you get when you watch someone take a series of moves that screws you over but that you also know screws themselves over in a long run they are currently blissfully unaware of.
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JKMatthews (100 D(B))
28 Feb 13 UTC
Potential Multi Issue
I'm new to website after playing a few IRL games, and my housemate who also works at the same place as me is probably thinking about joining. However, I know there are issues relating to people using multiple accounts, and if that's done by IP address is will most likely look like both our accounts are the same person's.
What's the best way for us to avoid this, or who should I contact to discuss it further?
Thanks!
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semck83 (229 D(B))
28 Feb 13 UTC
Van Cliburn dead
A sad day for classical music aficionados. Cliburn also represented an important if small moment in US-Russia relations during the cold war.
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Colonel Saloh Cin (100 D)
28 Feb 13 UTC
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Are you the one who will rule the world?
For the easy payment of 15 D, you can enjoy the chance to rule the world with The World Wide Schlieffen Plan ( http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=111246 ) . If you can take 10 minutes out of you day for possible world domination, than this deal is for you. In fact this deal is just to good. I'm gonna have to put a time limit of 7 days for this. I would wait that long though. there's only 13 spaces left.
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Yonni (136 D(S))
27 Feb 13 UTC
WebDippers at Bonnaroo?
Anyone planning or thinking of going? I've got my ticket for this year.
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hecks (164 D)
27 Feb 13 UTC
Grand Bargain
Here's a thread to see if we WebDippers can do what US Congress can't: reach a compromise between the howling bands of drum-beating partisans on both sides.
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
27 Feb 13 UTC
I'm speechless
http://www.viddler.com/embed/70 D1d214/?f=1&offset=0&autoplay=0&secret=48017121&disablebranding=0
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Octavious (2701 D)
27 Feb 13 UTC
Our Glorious Democratic Unions
Good news, everyone!

I've just voted in the UNISON election for the leader of their Devon and Cornwall Police branch! Naturally I carefully considered both canditates, and after deciding the top one had a slightly larger nose I voted for him...
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krellin (80 DX)
25 Feb 13 UTC
Cool Hats and Other Accoutrements
Pope gets a cool hat that nobody else can really pull off without a good mocking.

What other hats and accoutrements come with jobs that only that job can really pull off?
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
23 Feb 13 UTC
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I think I need help.
I just woke up from a dream where I unexpectedly was going to Space.

What was my biggest concern? Trying to figure out how to get my Diplomacy games paused...
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krellin (80 DX)
27 Feb 13 UTC
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SyFy - Robot Combat League
SyFy Channel Robot Combat League.

'nuff said...
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krellin (80 DX)
27 Feb 13 UTC
StoryBundle - Indie Authors
http://storybundle.com/

Just bought, have bought previous bundles - worth the pick-your-price for basic reading amusement.
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semck83 (229 D(B))
26 Feb 13 UTC
Tonight
http://postimage.org/image/4o5w0ycpf/
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pixie0901 (100 D)
26 Feb 13 UTC
Tuesday LIive
$20 bet in 15 minutes, please join, anonymous players
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MarshallShore (122 D)
25 Feb 13 UTC
Question for Catholics:
Who do you want to be the Pope, and why?
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Colonel Saloh Cin (100 D)
26 Feb 13 UTC
One spot left.
If you want to join a med game there's one called New World 3. Password is TA.
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hecks (164 D)
26 Feb 13 UTC
Goodwill Quandry
Looking for some advice. My wife says I should wash second-hand clothes before I wear them, in case there are bugs or something in them. But is that going far enough? What if there are demons in my "new" corduroys? Should I exorcise them first? Pat Robertson says better safe than sorry.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/02/25/robertson-rebuke-demons-by-praying-over-possessed-secondhand-clothes/
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
26 Feb 13 UTC
twitter your way to jail (and other laws...)
m.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20782257
Interesting take, especially when compared to webdip's forum rules. How do these laws vary in your home? Free speech anyone?
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Randomizer (722 D)
26 Feb 13 UTC
Trademarking Jesus
From the Wall Street Journal
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324432004578302060560501092.html?KEYWORDS=trademark+jesus
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
26 Feb 13 UTC
I'm starting a new religion
and I need people to get in from the ground up to make it as fucked up as possible. Basically we want to oppress our membership and get lots of tax breaks. Oh, and smoke weed. Who's with me? Let's hear your ideas!
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krellin (80 DX)
21 Feb 13 UTC
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Men and Women are Differrent
Another reason why Men and Women should *not* be treated the same. Because they are *not* the same...
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/256666.php
Before you blow a nut, *different* does *not* mean unequal.
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dipplayer2004 (1110 D)
25 Feb 13 UTC
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Michelle Obama presents Best Picture Award
Cult of personality much? Can the Obamas refrain from inserting themselves into every damn corner of American life? Who thought this was a good idea--among both the White House staff and the Oscars producers? Can we leave politics out of anything? Why were military personnel used as props in a banal entertainment industry awards program?

Seriously, how is this not creepy and inappropriate?
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