yes but there are many things kobe or david do that are unacheivable for the najority of us but we still strive to be like them.

But just because they can't be achieved by mere mortals doesn't necessarily mean that people shouldn't strive for them does it? I mean I know I'm not going to grow up and make 100 million a year like Tiger does, but that doesn't mean I can't still try to be a good golfer.

Like Tiger did*

true but i think in the sex department people try to hard maybe, they feel that it is so important to be good in bed that they take striving to be like someone to a whole different level, almost to obsessing about being like that person, which turns into striving to be that person, not to be like them

Hmm male stupidity!! Surely you do not strive for something that is totally unacheivable. Scoring a goal from blah blah feet away with some weird takcle thing going on seems unacheivable but not really if you work at it and train hard etc. Yet having a 10 inch dick is kinda unachieveable when you dont have a 10inch dick no?

sorry to be crude btw

Well, here in the U S of A theres solutions to that problem as well:p

don't know if someone answered u yet, vamosrammstein, but before vhs, there were beta videocassetes, and i'm not too old, so i don't know if there was something before beta

vamm - how?

when you put it that way :) but like having a 10 inch dick, david was born with a talent, something that the rest of us don't have, so sure if we practice a shitload we might be able to come pretty close, but we could never reach his level, unless we have that talent or gift.

wow i never thought i would compare david beckham to a 10 inch dick.

Surgery.

before beta there were books and regular ole film reels :)

Haha so being born with a large penis is a genetic gift just like being born with footballing ability? I would say soccer ability, but that'd get me flamed for being American wouldn't it?:p

Hmm dunno, i still think its different.

The 10 inch dick thing does not automatically provide talent or make the experience good, fun, mind blowing etc. Yet in porn it is encouraged maybe even neccesary. That kind of talent is not needed or wanted in most normal life situation yet is viewed a priority in porn.

true maybe not the best analogy

Raw natural talent doesn't necessarily provide success in a sport either though, it still requires constant training and practice to become truly great, regardless of what your natural ability is.

no, biddis, as being i tall, big man doesn't give u talent to play basket, but it really helps

but does a giant dick really help?i would think it can hurt as well

Probably similar to how being tall in tennis makes you a good server, but diminishes other aspects of your game. In other words, it might make one aspect tremendous, but at the expense of other aspects.

Since the latest studies suggest that about a third of viewers are female and are the fastest growing demographic group in the porn industry, we may need to ask how this change is affecting men and woman.

well, they could be the fastest growing demographic group cause the other demographic group cannot grow anymore (every man view porn)

checkmate +1

That does not change the fact that a higher portion of woman now view porn than in the past, and even more will in the future. What makes you think that every man views porn? Most unlikely and since the internet is making porn available every place, the male demographics are also be growing.

hahahaha, yeah man, it was a joke

Ok hahaha. You never know on this sight.

And the male demographics are growing in more than one way.

Before DVDs and VHS and Beta there was 16mm and 8mm celluloid films.
Before films there were "What the Butler Saw" type machines where a series of still photos - shown flip-book style by winding a handle - would tell the "story". It would be very tame by todays standards (a woman stripping for a bath for instance), but in Victorian times it was considered extreme porn.
Before these there were erotic/explicit paintings, drawings and statues. These go back into pre-history. There are cave drawings more than 20,000 years old of the female genital area.

im loving this discussion, porn does have an impact on women (this is going to be very crude) 10 years ago i would be very surprised if a women/girl let me cum on her face now if they don't its more surprising

Why would you want to do that? It's degrading and disgusting.

(and perhaps an entirely different topic)