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HumanWave (337 D)
02 Sep 13 UTC
Philosophical reading
Searching for enriching reads
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
30 Aug 13 UTC
Anyone Here in British Columbia?
I have a mountain-related question for you...
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Diplomat33 (243 D(B))
01 Sep 13 UTC
Interested in a Game?
3 days per turn, classic, 15 point bet, PPSC, PM me if interested. Preferably experienced and somewhat civil players only.
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
19 Aug 13 UTC
World of Warplanes
Being quite a fan of World of Tanks, I was very keen to try "World of Warplanes" which has recently been released.
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Hyperion (1029 D)
02 Sep 13 UTC
How to get banned from webDiplomacy?
So... tell me. How can I get banned from this site?
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dirge (768 D(B))
01 Sep 13 UTC
getting back in to Combat Mission
haven't played for a long time since I'm on a Mac and the classic CM games don't work anymore. I'm excited to see Battlefront has come out with new WWII CM. But they're a bit pricy. Not sure if I should get Normandy or Fortress Italy? Anyone play these games?
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HumanWave (337 D)
01 Sep 13 UTC
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Low point for humanity high point for fake journalism
I just want to bring to everyone's attention that the onion has outdone itself in Syria coverage ill post some links below.
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
30 Aug 13 UTC
Alacriousness
Problem of politicians regarding Syria: the alacrity to do something. If Cameron and co just hold their breaths for a second, wait for what the UN has to say, wait for what other nations have to say, they'll get their mandate. There's simply no rush.
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Sbyvl36 (439 D)
23 Aug 13 UTC
Sbyvonomics
In a perfect (i.e. Sbyvl-dominated) world, the economic system would be much better than it is today. Here are my five steps to fix the socialist playpen that we call America:

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damian (675 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
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I'm going to present an excerpt from the excellent book Economics in One Lesson by Hazlitt, which is available free online from the Mises institute.

An American manufacturer of woolen sweaters goes to Congress
or to the State Department and tells the committee or officials concerned
that it would be a national disaster for them to remove or
reduce the tariff on British sweaters. He now sells his sweaters for
$15 each, but English manufacturers could sell here sweaters of the
same quality for $10. A duty of $5, therefore, is needed to keep him in business. He is not thinking of himself, of course, but of the thousand
men and women he employs, and of the people to whom their
spending in turn gives employment. Throw them out of work, and
you create unemployment and a fall in purchasing power, which would
spread in ever-widening circles. And if he can prove that he really
would be forced out of business if the tariff were removed or
reduced, his argument against that action is regarded by Congress as
conclusive.
But the fallacy comes from looking merely at this manufacturer
and his employees, or merely at the American sweater industry. It
comes from noticing only the results that are immediately seen, and
neglecting the results that are not seen because they are prevented
from coming into existence.
The lobbyists for tariff protection are continually putting forward
arguments that are not factually correct. But let us assume that the
facts in this case are precisely as the sweater manufacturer has stated
them. Let us assume that a tariff of $5 a sweater is necessary for him
to stay in business and provide employment at sweater making for his
workers.
We have deliberately chosen the most unfavorable example of any
for the removal of a tariff. We have not taken an argument for the
imposition of a new tariff in order to bring a new industry into existence,
but an argument for the retention of a tariff that has already
brought an industry into existence, and cannot be repealed without hurting
somebody.
The tariff is repealed; the manufacturer goes out of business; a
thousand workers are laid off; the particular tradesmen whom they
patronized are hurt. This is the immediate result that is seen. But there
are also results which, while much more difficult to trace, are no less
immediate and no less real. For now sweaters that formerly cost $15
apiece can be bought for $10. Consumers can now buy the same quality
of sweater for less money, or a much better one for the same
money. If they buy the same quality of sweater, they not only get the
sweater, but they have $5 left over, which they would not have had
under the previous conditions, to buy something else. With the $5 left over they help employment in any number
of other industries in the United States

Now let us look at the matter the other way round, and see the effect
of imposing a tariff in the first place. Suppose that there had been no tariff
on foreign knit goods, that Americans were accustomed to buying foreign
sweaters without duty, and that the argument were then put forward
that we could bring a sweater industry into existence by imposing a duty of $5 on
sweaters.
There would be nothing logically wrong with this argument so far
as it went. The cost of British sweaters to the American consumermight thereby be forced so high that American manufacturers would
find it profitable to enter the sweater business. But American consumers
would be forced to subsidize this industry. On every American
sweater they bought they would be forced in effect to pay a tax of $5
which would be collected from them in a higher price by the new
sweater industry.

In short tariffs are a form of tax, we just don't notice it right away.
ILN (100 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
You don't, but if you want to posses some power, because your one of those power hungry statists, then you do it by sales tax.
ILN (100 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
Either that, or property tax, which is actually the "fairest" tax (no tax is fair)
damian (675 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
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1. That is your problem. .
...Erm? What is?

2. You don't understand the free market at all.

I think it is you who are failing to understand the free market.
A market with tariffs on it isn't free. It's a market that has been tinkered with by the government.
ILN (100 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
yea, i think sbvyl or however you spell it, should take a look at the misses institute. Its actually a good center for information, maybe it'll help him get rid of his idiotic ideas
damian (675 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
(If you find the excerpt disagreeable may I suggest you take a look at the entire reading. (http://mises.org/books/economics_in_one_lesson_hazlitt.pdf) Section 2, chapter 11 deals with tariffs in more detail than the brief excerpt could hope to.)
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
Again, Tariffs only apply to imports, so it keeps us booming, and everyone else in check.

Now on the last page one of you called me a Stalinist. Compare the to charts:
http://www.politicalcompass.org/crowdchart.php?showform=&Sbyvl36=7.9%2C3.9&Krellin=1.8%2C-3.0&Bo+Sox+48=-7.0%2C-7.1&Yellow+Jacket=-5.9%2C-5.5&Abgemacht=-4.8%2C-3.2&Krellys+Wife=1.0%2C-0.5&Philcore=0.6%2C-2.4&Fasces349=8.1%2C-1.5&Dipplayer=2.9%2C-1.1&Invictus=1.8%2C0.4&Goldfinger=-2.0%2C3.0&Nigeebaby=-8.3%2C-6.4&Sunra=-8.3%2C-6.6&Jacobcfries=-6.1%2C-5.4&President+Eden=7.5%2C-5.2&Redhouse=0.8%2C-0.8&Semck83=5.5%2C-2.3&Orathaic=-6.1%2C-6.8&Nudge=-2.9%2C-0.6&Hereward=0.9%2C1.2&Thucydides=-4.9%2C-5.7&Damian+=4.3%2C-5.5&Mujus=-5.4%2C-3.0&Octavious=-1.3%2C0.2&Mendax=-8.1%2C-7.2&Benjormungand=9.0%2C-6.1&Slyster=-3.5%2C-5.3&Kingrishard=-2.5%2C-0.8&Obiwanobiwan=-5.5%2C-4.8&newname=Celticfox+&newec=-6.25&newsoc=-6.15

http://skepticalcubefarm.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/political_compass1.png

You were saying?
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
How do you idiots plan on funding the government then?
ILN (100 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
sbyvl just wants to be right wing in name only, its a fantasy he created, and hes actually trying to trick himself into believing he's right wing, he believes his own lie! In fact, what he wants is an economically isolated america that is self sufficient, where he is the dear ruler and all venerate and bow down to the great leader
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
Give me an alternative to debate.
ILN (100 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
you fund it through property tax
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
You are not right wing. You are an anarchist.
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
What happened to private property, Commie?
ILN (100 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
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if you want funding for your useless government, here it is;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgism
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
Georgism is a Communist idea. Communist.
ILN (100 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
lol im actually the biggest supporter of property rights lmao, but you cant have both, property rights and government
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
And if it's anarchy you want, go to Somalia. Because it's working so FABULOUSLY over there.
damian (675 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
"Again, Tariffs only apply to imports, so it keeps us booming, and everyone else in check."

The example in the excerpt I provided applies only to imports as well. Tariffs reduce foreign competition by increasing the cost. The lack of foreign competition allows American businesses to keep their prices high because they foreign products artificially cost more. It improves American business but reduces the standards of living for everyone through the increased cost of goods. Every extra dollar you pay for those goods is subsidizing the existence of American jobs that wouldn't otherwise exist, in unprofitable industries, and thus can't be saved to be channelled into profitable industries.
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
Yes you can. No taxes, just tariffs. But now we are going in circles.
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
Supply and demand will bring prices down. Do you suggest a price freeze?
ILN (100 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
lol its funny how you use a Stalinist tactic to shut up your opponents, branding people things lmao
damian (675 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
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I think I'm in favour of a nightwatchman state. Ie. Security and Legal system only, funded by voluntary contribution and ... something else.

Perhaps something else should be the Return on Investments the government could get if it sold all of its unnecessary assets and invested them in various businesses.
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
After you did the exact same thing. Moron.
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
Go to Somalia.
ILN (100 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
Typical statist rant, "oh you're an anarchist? Go to somalia!" i pity you
damian (675 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
Supply and demand will bring prices down, yes.

But the prices will still be artificially high (higher than they would have been without the tariffs), because you have given the American businesses the ability to charge more for their product and still be cheaper than foreign goods.
ILN (100 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
Damian, that would be a nice solution as well, but its not safe.
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
I mean, give me an example of where Anarchy has actually worked.

Whereas my policies have worked in the past, and will work again.
damian (675 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
Relatively speaking, a broad scale investment into the general stocks, at any time in the last 100 years would result in a positive ROI. Because the stock market has consistently gone up. Even if you invested at the peak of the 1920's or 2008, your net worth would increase over 50 years, and with dividends to help we should be able to fund a government relatively stably.
ILN (100 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
heres a song for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZghGHHBO_nU&list=TLT1yv1pcPgpE

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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
30 Aug 13 UTC
Because you're worth it ...... Friday Music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YZb8s7Kxa4

Stairway to Heaven - best song ever? Discuss
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
31 Aug 13 UTC
war powers act and cybering?
"●The CIA and the NSA have begun aggressive new efforts to hack into
foreign computer networks to steal information or sabotage enemy
systems, embracing what the budget refers to as “offensive cyber
operations.” " (src: washingtonpost)
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
30 Aug 13 UTC
A Punny Thread
To start, I will make a pun. The next post contains a pun based on the pun made in the OP, and the next post contains one based on the previous post.

So I'll start with a marbleous pun.
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mapleleaf (0 DX)
29 Aug 13 UTC
I'm in Vancouver getting really STONED on this medicinal shit.
It's a long story...
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krellin (80 DX)
01 Sep 13 UTC
US - 3 Days Before Chemical Attack
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/08/30/us_had_intel_on_chemical_strike_before_it_was_launched

US knew of chemical attack 3 days before....and did nothing. Kind of sick to my stomach now...
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Draugnar (0 DX)
31 Aug 13 UTC
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If obi were to take my online courses...
...he'd probably fail.

More below.
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hecks (164 D)
30 Aug 13 UTC
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Birthday present idea help
Today's my wife's birthday, and I've procrastinated getting her a present, so I could really use some ideas. I was thinking maybe an oil painting, but I don't have much money. Does anyone know where I can get an oil painting cheap?
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josunice (3702 D(S))
14 Aug 13 UTC
Gunboat High Stakes Tournament
Entry 250@, Gunboat 36-hour 125@/per game
10-game rounds, 5 simultaneously
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nudge (284 D)
31 Aug 13 UTC
House of Cards
Should I bother?
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hecks (164 D)
28 Aug 13 UTC
Physics Question
Within.
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Gnome de Guerre (359 D)
31 Aug 13 UTC
JOIN: A Terribly Long Game
gameID=125205 is already past the halfway point, with 9/17 players having already joined as I type this (for the math impaired, we only need 8 more players to begin). Deadline is September 6th, so that should be plenty of time to fill all the seats.
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
31 Aug 13 UTC
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Show me where Sybvlism has worked.
Since you say Marxism doesn't work, show me where Sybvlism has.
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partytime (131 D)
31 Aug 13 UTC
masacar
i have made a game called masacar anybody want to join only couple of minutes till start.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
30 Aug 13 UTC
War in Syria .... no thank you
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23892783
So the British govt don't want to get involved in Syria but the Prime Minister does, who are we to stop him, I'll even offer to drive him to the airport. I'm sure he'll tell Assad exactly what he thinks of him.
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hecks (164 D)
30 Aug 13 UTC
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I thought of you...
Hey, look. Somebody made a webcomic about the webdip forum.

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/ohmygosh_link
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
31 Aug 13 UTC
Moderate Stakes World Game
Please join!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=125395
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OCCASVS (318 D)
30 Aug 13 UTC
Attacking cuts unwanted support move?
Imagine this situation:
FRANCE: F MAO - Bre; A Pic - Bre; F IRI - ENG
ENGLAND: F ENG S A Pic - Bre
Would F IRI - ENG cut the unwanted support move? According to my logics, yes. Or am I missing some details?
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taos (281 D)
26 Aug 13 UTC
i admit, i discovered the truth!
Many in this site know me by now and know that i am Jewish Israeli atheist and liberal, i respect truth and morality above all and i have being defending my people for years.
I respond to any accusation in this forum and.willing to fight antisemitism by all means.
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VirtualBob (224 D)
29 Aug 13 UTC
New Gunboat Series
This has been tried before but I cannot find the thread. I want to start a series of 36-hour gunboat games with password. No special rules except to ready promptly when possible. PW will not be sent to those with a history of resignations. I will start the game(s) as soon as there is interest.
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ILN (100 D)
23 Aug 13 UTC
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Ankara Crescent
I remember playing this once on webdip a while back, and thought it would be nice to try it again. If you are wondering how to play, the objective is to reach Ankara, without breaking any rules or conventions set in place by Stovald and Avalon Hill, if you need to brush up on the rules, you can go to your nearest distributor of the new updated edition ruleset
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President Eden (2750 D)
29 Aug 13 UTC
2013 College Football Open Thread
Season starts tonight, in case you weren't aware. Gonna be watching the Ole Miss/Vanderbilt and USC/UNC games here.

We'll start off with a simple question. Who takes home the title this year?
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