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HumanWave (337 D)
02 Sep 13 UTC
Philosophical reading
Searching for enriching reads
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
30 Aug 13 UTC
Anyone Here in British Columbia?
I have a mountain-related question for you...
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Diplomat33 (243 D(B))
01 Sep 13 UTC
Interested in a Game?
3 days per turn, classic, 15 point bet, PPSC, PM me if interested. Preferably experienced and somewhat civil players only.
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
19 Aug 13 UTC
World of Warplanes
Being quite a fan of World of Tanks, I was very keen to try "World of Warplanes" which has recently been released.
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Hyperion (1029 D)
02 Sep 13 UTC
How to get banned from webDiplomacy?
So... tell me. How can I get banned from this site?
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dirge (768 D(B))
01 Sep 13 UTC
getting back in to Combat Mission
haven't played for a long time since I'm on a Mac and the classic CM games don't work anymore. I'm excited to see Battlefront has come out with new WWII CM. But they're a bit pricy. Not sure if I should get Normandy or Fortress Italy? Anyone play these games?
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HumanWave (337 D)
01 Sep 13 UTC
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Low point for humanity high point for fake journalism
I just want to bring to everyone's attention that the onion has outdone itself in Syria coverage ill post some links below.
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
30 Aug 13 UTC
Alacriousness
Problem of politicians regarding Syria: the alacrity to do something. If Cameron and co just hold their breaths for a second, wait for what the UN has to say, wait for what other nations have to say, they'll get their mandate. There's simply no rush.
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Sbyvl36 (439 D)
23 Aug 13 UTC
Sbyvonomics
In a perfect (i.e. Sbyvl-dominated) world, the economic system would be much better than it is today. Here are my five steps to fix the socialist playpen that we call America:

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damian (675 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
Emac, you are still wrong about the tariffs. But I agree with you (to an extent) when it comes to inflation.

I understand the argument that the other side offers, namely that because inflation decreases the purchasing power of your goods, it drives investment. While deflation drives saving because the value of your currency is worth more on any given day.

However inflation is often incredibly damaging to the lower classes, especially when it drives unnecessary spending. Ideally we would have a situation were the currencies purchasing power remained neutral, to put an equal priority on saving and spending. As it stands I believe too much weight it put on spending and not enough on saving, among individuals. I appreciate that additional investment drives business, but I tend to prefer more cautious growth, which is more likely to occur when saving isn't being disincentivized by inflation eating away at the value.

Though I am sympathetic to the argument that savings should be invested, which is incentivized in a society with an inflationary currency, frankly, though I would prefer we did away with mandated control of the money supply, and opened currency to the market, to allow a number of competing currencies.
Emac (0 DX)
25 Aug 13 UTC
Cheers!
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
What we should really do is put a freeze on printing money and in the meantime go back to the gold standard.

And I am forced to revoke Emac's "True Conservative" title after I found out he is pro-abortion. What a shame.
Emac (0 DX)
25 Aug 13 UTC
I agree completely that inflation is damaging to lower classes. I completely agree that keeping the value of currency steady is the best possible policy. I agree as well with your stance on deemphasizing spending and increasing savings.
I think always get invested because people want their money to work as hard as they do.
Where do we disagree on currency.
damian (675 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
I disagree. Rather than continuing to hold the reigns of monetary policy, the only sensible option is to remove federal control over the money supply completely.

The Federal Reserve is a business, if given the choice they will not cheapen the value of their product, which they do now largely at the behest of government.

Furthermore, if we remove federal control competitors can spring up, which will put additional pressure on the Federal reserve to maintain a quality product lest their competitors gain a foot hold.
damian (675 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
"I think always get invested because people want their money to work as hard as they do. "
I agree. The problem with deflation is the money is working just as hard sitting there doing nothing in a bank account, as it is being lent out to investors. Which isn't a problem with a currency whose value is relatively static.
Emac (0 DX)
25 Aug 13 UTC
The expansion of the money supply needs to keep up with the expanding productivity of the economy. If you have to little money to meet to little demand you will see interest rates climb which will slow growth. We can't go back to the gold standard, but we could easily fix the value of a dollar to a basket of goods. Like the basket of goods we use to judge COLA increases.
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
Let me clearly specify my currency position, so there are no questions.

1. Abolish the Federal Reserve. Congress should print money itself (Remember the "United States Notes"?).

2. Freeze the money supply until the next phase of my plan can go through.

3. Reestablish the Gold Standard. One ounce of gold should equal $20.67. Continue to control the money supply so we never have inflation.


Are we clear?
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
@Emac: Why can't we go back to the gold standard?
damian (675 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
I'm inclined again to agree with Emacs here. Why tie the currencies value to gold?
If you must tie the currency to something why not a basket of goods? It better represents the things the currency will be used to buy.

I still say we are better served by a variety of independent currencies. Many micro currencies have enjoyed success before government regulations shut them down, why not allow competition to thrive rather than maintaining a strictly controlled monopoly.
damian (675 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
Actually. I suppose one benefit of gold is that it can easily be stored in a bank, which allows bank notes to be redeemed for it. While a basket of goods would be impractical for this purpose.
President Eden (2750 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
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Sbvyl. You're not seriously advocating that the big-spending loons in Congress be allowed to print money, right? You know even if you implement steps 2 and 3 that those idiots will destroy the dollar the first chance they get.

I'm with you re: the Federal Reserve but it needs to be replaced with a competitive system that allows the creation of new currencies, not Congress having the power of the money press.
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
The Gold standard is the only reliable standard in the world. And it worked when it was tried, so why not use it to fix it again?
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
With a gold standard, they would only be able to print as much as gold is worth. And it is better to have an elected group dealing with it rather than a bureaucracy.
damian (675 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
"And it is better to have an elected group dealing with it rather than a bureaucracy."

Why? And why would a business be so bad?

It's easy to make statements, I'd like to know why you think having a business handling our money would be so bad, compared to politicians who are known for making costly promises during campaigns.

(Also, I sent you a PM regarding pro-life, v. pro-choice. If you don't want to discuss it let me know, as I do, and will happily start a thread on the topic if you'd rather not discuss it.)
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
The Fed has been a miserable failure. I don't know why you want it to be in charge. And I am not completely against a business being in charge of currency. As long as we have a gold standard.

I didn't see a PM
damian (675 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
I agree the Fed is a serious problem. I wouldn't be opposed to fracturing it and putting it up for auction on the free market. Which would allow competition to emerge quickly.

However I'm not sure why you feel politicians would do a better job than the Fed.

Regarding the gold standard, if a business is in charge that chooses not have a gold standard, you can choose not to use their business.

Personally I like systems that have units of time as a backing, because they hearken back to a barter system. Ie. If give you this 10minute note for that loaf of bread, because I believe that the loaf of bread is worth 10 minutes of my time doing something for you.

Huh. I know I sent it because it shows up on my home page. That's very strange.
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
We need a standard in this country. The Constitution gave Congress the right to print money, therefore I think they should do it rather than delegate it to bureaucrats. This is the problem I have with Anarcho-Capitalists. They refuse to have a standard for anything.

Once again, they are accountable to the people. The Fed isn't.

See above.

That is outrageous. That will cause currency to fluctuate out of control. We need a solid, steady currency. Only then will we have real economic growth.

I found it. It got shuffled to the bottom.
damian (675 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
(Bear in mind I'm a foreigner, and thus don't view your constitution as a sacred document.) But government intervention always has unintended consequences.

Perhaps the constitution should be amended to take away that power. If Congress prints money, it is only a matter of time until some nutcase buys votes by offering money to voters. And people will buy those promises, because by and large the consequences are less visible, the government will explain away the inflation caused by there policy and many people will believe it.

People are less sympathetic to companies, and less polarized on the issue.

Why will it cause currency to fluctuate out of control. Do you value your time vastly more or less, each day? The instability in the system comes in with how much is each persons time worth. Its a flaw, I know this. But its an interesting system, and it works for barter.

If people see a currency that is fluctuating out of control, they will pick another more stable one to keep their assets in, if gold is the best way to do this, you will see a strong gold backed currency arise.
Emac (0 DX)
25 Aug 13 UTC
Damian, who controls the money supply then if not the Fed. Before the Fed JP Morgan, the nation's dominate banker controlled the money supply. Teddy Roosevelt had to make an appointment with Morgan in 1907 to deal with a pending credit crisis. This is one reason Congress passed wrote the Federal Reserve Act a few years later while Taft was in the Oval Office. I don't mind the fed. I just one the board of governors to have on mandate, stable money value. Forget all about giving the fed a mission in employment. Leave that completely to the private sector.
Emac (0 DX)
25 Aug 13 UTC
I always wonder why people think that bureaucrats can run anything better than the private sector.
How does having competing currencies cause currency values to fluctuate out of control? We already have competing currencies... on an international scale. Notice how the relatively good currencies don't suffer dramatic spikes in value.
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
Both of you are so wrong. I am speechless.
damian (675 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
And what about when the next group of politicians come through and wants to give the Fed a different mandate?

You can vote against them, but a party stands for multiple things. Its more effective to vote with your wallet, because you can make many votes on each issue that matters to you.

Which is why its safer to have private control of the money system. You can switch companies without having to accept a laundry list of other ideas you don't like
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
I propose a Constitutional Amendment setting a Gold Standard at $20.67/ounce, and forcing Congress to only print the amount of money needed to keep the standard.

Problem solved. Next?
Thucydides (864 D(B))
25 Aug 13 UTC
"Why can't we go back to the gold standard?"

------>what am i reading
Emac (0 DX)
25 Aug 13 UTC
You can't not do something today because of what a future group might do. In fact the Fed originally had only one mission, to maintain stable currency value.
That doesn't solve the problem because gold is a commodity whose value fluctuates according to economic circumstances. It's used in the creation of electronics and jewelry. If you set a price of gold then you institute price controls on a raw material used in several very important applications.
Emac (0 DX)
25 Aug 13 UTC
The governors on the federal reserver are private bankers selected to serve.
Sbyvl36 (439 D)
25 Aug 13 UTC
No, set the Dollar to gold, not the other way around.


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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
30 Aug 13 UTC
Because you're worth it ...... Friday Music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YZb8s7Kxa4

Stairway to Heaven - best song ever? Discuss
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
31 Aug 13 UTC
war powers act and cybering?
"●The CIA and the NSA have begun aggressive new efforts to hack into
foreign computer networks to steal information or sabotage enemy
systems, embracing what the budget refers to as “offensive cyber
operations.” " (src: washingtonpost)
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
30 Aug 13 UTC
A Punny Thread
To start, I will make a pun. The next post contains a pun based on the pun made in the OP, and the next post contains one based on the previous post.

So I'll start with a marbleous pun.
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mapleleaf (0 DX)
29 Aug 13 UTC
I'm in Vancouver getting really STONED on this medicinal shit.
It's a long story...
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krellin (80 DX)
01 Sep 13 UTC
US - 3 Days Before Chemical Attack
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/08/30/us_had_intel_on_chemical_strike_before_it_was_launched

US knew of chemical attack 3 days before....and did nothing. Kind of sick to my stomach now...
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Draugnar (0 DX)
31 Aug 13 UTC
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If obi were to take my online courses...
...he'd probably fail.

More below.
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hecks (164 D)
30 Aug 13 UTC
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Birthday present idea help
Today's my wife's birthday, and I've procrastinated getting her a present, so I could really use some ideas. I was thinking maybe an oil painting, but I don't have much money. Does anyone know where I can get an oil painting cheap?
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josunice (3702 D(S))
14 Aug 13 UTC
Gunboat High Stakes Tournament
Entry 250@, Gunboat 36-hour 125@/per game
10-game rounds, 5 simultaneously
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nudge (284 D)
31 Aug 13 UTC
House of Cards
Should I bother?
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hecks (164 D)
28 Aug 13 UTC
Physics Question
Within.
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Gnome de Guerre (359 D)
31 Aug 13 UTC
JOIN: A Terribly Long Game
gameID=125205 is already past the halfway point, with 9/17 players having already joined as I type this (for the math impaired, we only need 8 more players to begin). Deadline is September 6th, so that should be plenty of time to fill all the seats.
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
31 Aug 13 UTC
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Show me where Sybvlism has worked.
Since you say Marxism doesn't work, show me where Sybvlism has.
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partytime (131 D)
31 Aug 13 UTC
masacar
i have made a game called masacar anybody want to join only couple of minutes till start.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
30 Aug 13 UTC
War in Syria .... no thank you
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23892783
So the British govt don't want to get involved in Syria but the Prime Minister does, who are we to stop him, I'll even offer to drive him to the airport. I'm sure he'll tell Assad exactly what he thinks of him.
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hecks (164 D)
30 Aug 13 UTC
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I thought of you...
Hey, look. Somebody made a webcomic about the webdip forum.

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/ohmygosh_link
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
31 Aug 13 UTC
Moderate Stakes World Game
Please join!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=125395
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OCCASVS (318 D)
30 Aug 13 UTC
Attacking cuts unwanted support move?
Imagine this situation:
FRANCE: F MAO - Bre; A Pic - Bre; F IRI - ENG
ENGLAND: F ENG S A Pic - Bre
Would F IRI - ENG cut the unwanted support move? According to my logics, yes. Or am I missing some details?
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taos (281 D)
26 Aug 13 UTC
i admit, i discovered the truth!
Many in this site know me by now and know that i am Jewish Israeli atheist and liberal, i respect truth and morality above all and i have being defending my people for years.
I respond to any accusation in this forum and.willing to fight antisemitism by all means.
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VirtualBob (224 D)
29 Aug 13 UTC
New Gunboat Series
This has been tried before but I cannot find the thread. I want to start a series of 36-hour gunboat games with password. No special rules except to ready promptly when possible. PW will not be sent to those with a history of resignations. I will start the game(s) as soon as there is interest.
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ILN (100 D)
23 Aug 13 UTC
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Ankara Crescent
I remember playing this once on webdip a while back, and thought it would be nice to try it again. If you are wondering how to play, the objective is to reach Ankara, without breaking any rules or conventions set in place by Stovald and Avalon Hill, if you need to brush up on the rules, you can go to your nearest distributor of the new updated edition ruleset
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President Eden (2750 D)
29 Aug 13 UTC
2013 College Football Open Thread
Season starts tonight, in case you weren't aware. Gonna be watching the Ole Miss/Vanderbilt and USC/UNC games here.

We'll start off with a simple question. Who takes home the title this year?
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