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Invictus (240 D)
13 Mar 09 UTC
Where the Hell is Godot?
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9395
In the recent spirit of existentialist literature, I decided to make this game.
20 points, 24 hour phases, points per center
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Shrimpy (100 D)
11 Mar 09 UTC
What?
So i was just browsing around and saw this guy in one of my games.
http://phpdiplomacy.net/profile.php?userID=13146
he has been in one game and got eliminated yet he has 150 points. Am i just having a brain fart or what? I can't figure it out.
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Silent Noon (205 D)
13 Mar 09 UTC
Search System
I suggest that Kestas can implement a searching system in phpDiplomacy, enabling us to search for players' names and game names, instead of using CTRL+F blindly everytime, hoping that you'll get the name you want in that page.

What do you guys think?
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BlackNhite (100 D)
13 Mar 09 UTC
Game on?
Got a new game ready: 10pt entrance fee, 48 hour turns
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9402

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dilinger (564 D)
13 Mar 09 UTC
New game - Killing in the name of...
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9400

Please join... 47 hours and closing.
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join the randomness game... now!
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9399
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milestailsprower (614 D(B))
02 Mar 09 UTC
LEAST favorite diplomacy country
Argue here over why a country is so terrible.
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Maniac (189 D(B))
09 Mar 09 UTC
Is Diplomacy during retreat and build phases.
allowed or not?
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xl prodigy lx (285 D)
12 Mar 09 UTC
How long does it take to own a SC
How long must your army/fleet occupy a SC for it to be yours before you can leave it and it still be yours. I think it's one turn but not sure.
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airborne (154 D)
08 Mar 09 UTC
Daylight Saving Time
Does the system automatically move the clock an hour or do I have to do it myself?
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amonkeyperson (100 D)
10 Mar 09 UTC
Hell is other people
Anyone wanna join a game to raise the amount of points I have?
22 points
24 hours
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fullautonick (713 D)
13 Mar 09 UTC
Another gunboat game
25 point buy in
I love GB games b/c people can't gang up on me!
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9387
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diplomat1824 (0 DX)
22 Feb 09 UTC
That's it, Sicarius!
Kestas, I apologize in advance for this thread. But I think that the phpDiplomacy can spare one Forum slot for the sole purpose of shutting Sicarius up, once and for all. See below.
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Draugnar (0 DX)
02 Mar 09 UTC
The 2nd amendment is clearly grouped in the amendments that attribute rights to INDIVIDUALS. The 1st amendment has religion speech, press (non-government right), petition, and assemble, all individual rights or at least not rights of the state. The 3rd amendment is the right to not have to tolerate quartering of soldiers in private houses (one trampled on during the war of northern agression) during times of peace or war; another individual right. The 4th amendment is the interdiction of unreasonable searches and siezures and the requiring of warrants; yet another individual right. 5th - Self Incrimination - individual. 6th - fair and speedy trial - individual. 7th - trial by jury - individual. 8th - No excessive bail and fines or cruel and unusyal punishment - individual. 9th - that those rights set forth in the constitution are not the only rights of the individual. And the 10th LIMITS the power of the federal government - this is the only one which could be construed at the state level as it clearly states "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." but also refers "to the people" which infers the individual. The bill of rights are oriented towards protecting the individuals rights, not those of the state.

The second amendment, as passed by the House and Senate reads "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Note that "people" is not capitalized. Throughout the Constitution, whenever you see people in lower case, it has been interpreted as being the individual. Here is no different. All the elimination of the second "to" does is imply that keeping and bearing should be held together. Basically, it means you can't just grab you neighbors gun any time, even with his permission. It must be your gun. But it doesn't provide for any prohibition on your purchasing any weapon of your choice. That is the only gun control the constitution allows for. In order to bear the arms, you must be the keeper of the arms. Nothing more.
Naryshkin (100 D)
02 Mar 09 UTC
I personally don't think that's what the elimination of the second "to" indicates, but clearly neither of us will convince the other. I have to ask, though: should people be allowed to own tanks or artillery pieces?
Draugnar (0 DX)
02 Mar 09 UTC
Have you walked in Over-the-Rhine, Cincinnati, Ohio after dark? You'd understand why concealed handguns are a necessity. You don't want to invite the trouble with the flash of it showing, but you don't want to be without it should you need it.
Draugnar (0 DX)
02 Mar 09 UTC
It may seem stupid, but why not? This also falls under the pursuit of happiness. I collect cars and hand guns (Walther PPK, P99, H&K P7, and a Glock 22) and enjoy them. I own a WWII Jeep. I know people who collect all kinds of things and find pleasure in the collecting. It's all part of our pursuit of happiness and the government does NOT have the right to restrict that pursuit so long as it does NOT infringe upon the rights of others. If owning a Sherman tank makes someone happy, so long as they don't trash the neighbors property or hurt someone with it, they have a right to own it.
Naryshkin (100 D)
02 Mar 09 UTC
Owning a tank falls under pursuit of happiness? That's more than a little ridiculous.
trim101 (363 D)
02 Mar 09 UTC
why not collect deactivated guns though?and dont give me that walking in dangerous places rubbish either don't walk there or grow some bollocks, i regularly walk in very bad areas of london and i dont feel the need to carry a gun
Draugnar (0 DX)
02 Mar 09 UTC
Who are you to judge what makes another person happy? Are you God? Are you His Son, my Lord and Savior? I think paying outrageous amounts of money for "Beenie Babies" is more than a little ridiculous, but I don't judge others for their collecting habits.

As St. Matthew wrote in Matthew 7:
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

In other words, don't pass judgement on what makes me happy or God will pas judgment on what makes you happy.
rratclif (0 DX)
02 Mar 09 UTC
@ trim: What about hunting?
Draugnar (0 DX)
02 Mar 09 UTC
Trim, I've been to London and definitely got off the beaten path. Go to New York City and walk through Central Park at midnight. We'll see if you change your mind about concealed carry laws. My biggest fear in London was getting blown up while riding the tube.
trim101 (363 D)
02 Mar 09 UTC
but beenie babies aren't deadly weapons!dont quote fairy tales at me please it serves no purpose! @rratclif you dont go hunting with handguns and assualt rifles do you. Doesn't Canada have a higher gun ownership per head but massively lower gun crime, becuase there weapons are soley for hunting, i don't have a problem with rifles and shotguns for hunting ownership of any other guns is plain stupid and is shown in the levels of gun crime.
Draugnar (0 DX)
02 Mar 09 UTC
Trim: Fairy tales? What fairy tales? I've spent more time in Europe than you've spent in the states. I guarantee it.
Naryshkin (100 D)
02 Mar 09 UTC
Draugnar, we've discussed this knee-jerk reaction business. It doesn't contribute a mite to the discussion and really just makes you look silly.
trim101 (363 D)
02 Mar 09 UTC
@Draugnar if when you go somewhere you feel so unsafe that you need to carry a weapon why go there?
Tanks aren't arms. Neither are artillery pieces or weapons of mass destruction. Those things are properly labeled as "ordinance".

Assault rifles, on the other hand, *are* arms and their ownership is protected not only by the Constitution, but more than a thousand years of English common law-- which the US and UK have in common-- and only in the last century has it been subject to such gross violation on the part of the various national governments which purport to follow it.

Even the noted pacifist Mahatma Gandhi has rightfully noted that the disarmament of the civilian population of a nation is one of the most horrible crimes that a government can commit against that nation.

I don't need a gun because I am afraid of the government, or because I am afraid of criminals that the government cannot protect me from. I need a gun because as a free citizen, I *am* the government and I have a sacred duty to protect myself and my fellow citizens.

As far as this "gay marriage" rubbish goes, the biggest part of the problem is that people-- on either side of the argument-- cannot seem to tell the difference between marriage as a governmental institution, marriage as a religious sacrament, and marriage as a cultural practice.

Worse, people seem to believe that they have a "right" to marriage, and cannot seem to agree on which of these three things that "right" applies to.

I believe that there are compelling reasons that the State *ought* to recognize marriages between same-sex couples, and I support laws which allow this. But I also think that the vast majority of arguments on either side of the issue are wrongheaded, misguided, stupid, and missing the point.
trim101 (363 D)
02 Mar 09 UTC
As St. Matthew wrote in Matthew 7:
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.-fairy tales
Draugnar (0 DX)
02 Mar 09 UTC
Trim - there are several possible reasons to go somewhere you don't feel safe. I didn't feel safe in Kuwait, but the Marine Corps sent me there. My brother goes places all the time where a gun is needed. He's a corrections officer at Lebanon Correctional Institute and has worked at Warren Correctional as well. Sometimes you do what you have to do. When I was in college after serving in the Corps, I worked private security at several bars from COB until the next morning on Riverboat Row in Newport and had to walk employees to the lots because getting to their cars was dangerous. It was my job to see them there safely. I did so WITH A GUN.
Draugnar (0 DX)
02 Mar 09 UTC
Or, as I was taught in the Corps. Guns are on ships, I carried a weapon.
trim101 (363 D)
02 Mar 09 UTC
do you not think that high gun ownership (not hunting weapons) increases the serious/violent crime levels and does far more harm than good
Invictus (240 D)
02 Mar 09 UTC
No.
trim101 (363 D)
02 Mar 09 UTC
even though statistics show that it does, just compare canda and americas levels of gun crime or any european country and americas
Draugnar (0 DX)
02 Mar 09 UTC
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.
trim101 (363 D)
02 Mar 09 UTC
what a brillant response
Darwyn (1601 D)
02 Mar 09 UTC
Naryshkin -

The intent is clear.

"No free man shall ever be de-barred the use of arms.
The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
- Thomas Jefferson

No matter though...Since I don't have much time on my hands right now, I would defer my input to this discussion to Draugnar's comments. He has a wonderful grasp of this.
Hereward77 (930 D)
02 Mar 09 UTC
This isn't a statistic... Western European countries DO have far lower levels of crime and murder, if you can give me evidence to the contrary please do. They also have VERY strict gun control laws. Otherwise their people and legal systems are not drastically different from the USA. If I walk through an unpleasant area of a UK city, I know there is a very, very low chance I will be assailed by someone with a firearm. This means I feel no compulsion to carry one myself.

I tend to disregard Jefferson's views on freedom and free men...primarily because the man owned slaves, rendering it hypocrisy.
Most of Europe also has more extensive social programs than the US does. Not to mention, until recently, more ethnically homogeneous populations.

And the UK has a very similar violent crime rate to the US, last time I saw the numbers. Only difference is that they have higher rates of GBH and attempted murder, while we have higher rates of completed murder.

I do not consider that a particularly compelling argument for disarming me.
Just out of curiousity, the people who rally behind the Constitution supporting saying it gives the right to bear arms as a personal freedom, are they the same people who deny that freedom to others by claiming the US was founded as a Christian nation and should be recognized as such?
For the most part, yeah. It's hard to have real Conservatives in a country with no appreciation for history.

Personally, I don't consider gun ownership a "Constitutional" matter, because I consider it to be a moral principle that applies to people in every nation. I'm merely less concerned with gun laws in other countries because I don't live in them.
diplomat1824 (0 DX)
02 Mar 09 UTC
Although I am a strong Christian, I believe that all Americans have a right to a secular government (at least until 100% of Americans belong to one religion. Hey, the televangelists are getting there.)
Sicarius (673 D)
02 Mar 09 UTC
I dont know if someone needs to have a gun in a movie theater, but thats for the community they live in to decide (or at least it should be)

but the right of citizens of any country to have weapons to defend themselves against a government gone awry is absolutely necessary. to deny this is to deny the thought process that the constitution was written under. as to your silly assertion that militant civilians would overthrow the government, that wouldnt be possible unless there are substantial numbers. and if there are substantial numbers then gee, maybe the people want it.
so please leave your liberal bullshit at home. locked away in your closet, which is where I keep my gun.
spyman (424 D(G))
02 Mar 09 UTC
In many revolutions the militants who succeed in overthrowing a national government are often an aggressive minority. Take for example the Bolsheviks in Russia or the revolution in Iran.

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xgongiveit2ya55 (789 D)
12 Mar 09 UTC
4 more needed!
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9372

204pt buy in
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LitleTortilaBoy (124 D)
10 Mar 09 UTC
You just gotta love it when you predict somebody's every move.
Just the feeling of knowing that your inside their head, and putting in your orders, knowing the outcome.

Then, going back to see the outcome and seeing just how badly you just decimated them, and all your assumptions were correct.
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trim101 (363 D)
12 Mar 09 UTC
Flashman
i have to admit flash that my miss-sent message was actually meant for you, i thought it would be belivable as you made the same "mistake earlier", its just a shame i couldnt take full advantage of it
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SpeakerToAliens (147 D(S))
11 Mar 09 UTC
The facebook version of phpDip is down!
Anyone know why?
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GAME: 14 hours, quick and sexy! Like Uhura
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9371
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WA-Kusiag (120 D)
12 Mar 09 UTC
JOIN! "For the Win" Spring 1901, Pre-game
Everyone join up we have 4 joined and need 7!!!
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xgongiveit2ya55 (789 D)
11 Mar 09 UTC
Join, dammit!
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9367

250pts, 30hrs, PPSC
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TheClark (831 D)
11 Mar 09 UTC
Room for One More
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9361

A game "Of No Particular Significance"
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enlitnd99 (1015 D)
10 Mar 09 UTC
Pharyngulation - join the new game!
A fast moving game for anyone interested.
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RBerenguel (334 D)
10 Mar 09 UTC
Unpause required
I recently joined a game which was about to end and looked like it could take a long time (CD needed). So I went, a pause was required by the leading player, we agreed. Now Italy doesn't want to unpause and said he won't come back to play. http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=7712
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trip (696 D(B))
10 Mar 09 UTC
Gunboat means never having to say you're sorry.
New game
Details inside.
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LeeArama (100 D)
11 Mar 09 UTC
Small, short game open
15 points in, 24hr clock, short n sweet.

Name: XXX
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burningpuppies101 (126 D)
11 Mar 09 UTC
Lets Go!
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9358
19 point pot, since that's all I got. PPSC 18 hour phases.
Looking for people in the same skill range... So no joining if you have over 100 points...
New people/ inexperienced people please!
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LitleTortilaBoy (124 D)
10 Mar 09 UTC
What are ther ules about harassment?
I've had a player act like a jackass, and he's making inappropriate comments. He did it once so I ignored it, but now he's pushing it again. Do I need to report him or something?
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TheClark (831 D)
11 Mar 09 UTC
New Game "of no particular significance"
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9361

60 point bid and 20 hour phase
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xcurlyxfries (0 DX)
11 Mar 09 UTC
Its My Birthday!
in 45 minutes!

woot sweet 16, so sorry if I miss my moves :P
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xgongiveit2ya55 (789 D)
10 Mar 09 UTC
Why does nobody want to play with me? :(
This is the third time I have tried to start this game, and I have yet to get a SINGLE PERSON to join.

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9335
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