I think it's way to expensive to buy it right now. But I definitely want it.

I won't. What genius didn't count Spain in the first 19 Civs?

I bought it. There are a lot of complaints in the Civ community and the game is still a little rough around the edges, but that didn't stop me from 'one more turning' myself to 3 AM the first night. I'd say its worth it, but maybe wait until they do a patch or two or until the Gold/GOTY edition comes out.

Aw, spitfire. I was thinking to go buy it tomorrow. Now I'm not so sure. What are the complaints about? Are there many people playing it online?

@JCEC: I remember being able to play as Spain in older version of Civilization.

Sirius,
The main complaint is the multiplayer. Its choppy as hell. There aren't even unit animations in it. For me, that isn't a big deal, as I mostly play single player games.

They took out a lot of things. It seems like it tries to mix Civ IV and Civ: Revolution (the console version). Everything is a lot more combat-oriented now. Stuff like the gold/tech sliders are gone, religion is gone, civics were replaced by permanent 'social policies', etc.

Once I got the game up and running (I have an older computer, so had to run the DX9 version) and settled into the new UI, I enjoyed myself. Honestly, the thing I miss the most is the in-game real world clock.

I'm sure there are a million things I could say, but they've all been said on the Civilization Reddit and the Civ forums. I would read some of the stuff there: http://www.reddit.com/r/civ/

I can answer any specific questions, though

I've down loaded the demo. I like waiting for the patches, and etc before buying a game. I enjoyed the game play, and the new combat system is great. I've been waiting for a hex grid since Civ I, they should have gone with that along time ago. Like spitfire I have a older system, and I maxed out the video setting and it still ran well.

Religion is gone?! omg it sucks

Religion was kind of annoying, as it could piss people off that you had great relations with up to that point.

Social Policies has taken over some of the functions of religions without the more extreme effects.

^It's statements like those that make me giggle at the game and its subtle brilliance...

Another one? Looks neat tho. But I think I'd need a new computer first - mine has trouble playing Civ IV smoothly...

@Ursa You must have an real oldy.

Sirius: Yes, it is. I have Civ IV with all its expansions.

Rubetok: Yeah, I have never played the older versions of Civ, but religion was incredibly annoying.

Try this site http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=385

I agree that religion in the CIv 4 was annoying, but I was expecting a new way to deal with it, not simply pretend that it never had exist. Religion is one of the most important cultural aspects and I think it should be in!

I'm not going to put un unbalanced mod civ in the game if I only will play with that civ.

My laptop isn't good enough for it, which is a shame because I was looking forward to it :-(

I CANT WAIT to buy it... probably this weekend... I'm pretty excited about wasting a lot of time on it ;)

thanks spitfire and the rest for some solid commentary on the current version.

unfortunately, I may have to bow out of webdip for a while, so maybe I actually will have time for it now ;)

#kestasjk: me either =/ . My pc barely runs CIV 4

no more comments on Civ V? =(

still have not bought it yet though

I've played it and it's definitely addictive. I'm not sure if it's ultimately satisfying, though, because the combat mechanics work poorly, the maps are fairly cluttered and it's really hard to see where the roads are/aren't. I can't stack up armies on a single tile anymore, which is more annoying than challenging. Moving large armies across the map really shouldn't be tedious.

I got it, but I haven't had a chance to even finish my first game yet. I do miss the presence of religion. I agree with spitfire, it does kind of seem almost like a mix of elements from Civ4 and Civ Revolution. I don't mean that in necessarily a bad way, it's just... different. Still very cool so far.

I don't understand how you guys can miss religion. . . .

Dunecat, what do you dislike about the combat mechanics?

I'm running the demo on my work laptop and enjoying so far. May need to get a new home computer now ;P so I can run this baby :) Will take awhile to get to grips with the new stuff, but looks good...

I like the units but I dislike how they can't move through each other or stick together as one cohesive unit. They're also really expensive and it's really difficult to understand when I should be building stuff.

and what I should be building*

@ warsprite: but I'm happy with it. A friend of mine suggested I should format the C:/ drive to smoothen up performances.

all this talk about upgrading computers to play games makes me glad i play console games.