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krellin (80 DX)
12 Oct 16 UTC
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No Such Thing as Racism
http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/lil-wayne-stands-by-his-no-such-thing-as-racism-comment/ar-AAiS5PL?li=BBnb7Kz

Need more REAL men like this in the world. Thoughts on Lil Wayne?
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Jamiet99uk (865 D)
12 Oct 16 UTC
Live Games - process delay
I've recently played a live game for the first time in a few months, and I'm finding that the timer counts down to "Now", but then it actually takes 30-40 seconds to process the orders. This means people are able to enter or change orders *after* the phase should have ended.
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cstamm (0 DX)
06 Oct 16 UTC
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Political Views
The campaigns of Clinton and Trump have been running for a little over a year now and political tensions have been running high in the United States. As someone who's relatively new to this site, I couldn't help but wonder whether webdiplomacy players tend to be more liberal or conservative.
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dirge (768 D(B))
08 Oct 16 UTC
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scoring explanation
Can we take another look at our names for the scoring options?
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Deinodon (379 D(B))
11 Oct 16 UTC
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Game Titles
As I peruse other people's games, I've often been amused by game titles. It's a shame we can't see who the clever title authors are. It may not be wise during the game, but it would be cool if it were displayed after the game was over.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
11 Oct 16 UTC
Shit Feminists say...
"'Slut' is attacking women for their right to say yes. 'Friend Zone' is attacking women for their right to say no." - Discuss
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marze1992 (298 D)
11 Oct 16 UTC
Join new live game late night diolomacy
Join join join let s play!
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
07 Oct 16 UTC
Bay Area Diplomacy
Whipping Returns
Downtown San Jose, CA
April 1-2, 2017
[email protected]
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brainbomb (290 D)
11 Oct 16 UTC
At a loss for words
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=183821
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marze1992 (298 D)
11 Oct 16 UTC
JOIN NEWWWWWW GAMEEEES
JOIN NEW GAME annibale o scipione!!! An epic battle in the Ancient Mediterraneous
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marze1992 (298 D)
11 Oct 16 UTC
JOIN SI VIS PACEM PARA BELLUM
COME ON!!! Join new live game!
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marze1992 (298 D)
08 Oct 16 UTC
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JOIN NEWWWWWW GAMEEEES
JOIN NEWWWWWW GAMEEEES
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
10 Oct 16 UTC
Daily show on Gitmo
https://youtu.be/KEbFtMgGhPY
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peterlund (1310 D(G))
04 Oct 16 UTC
The reputation of the USA in the world
You know guys I am worried...
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brainbomb (290 D)
09 Oct 16 UTC
For Trunk Supporters
Justify this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4ly4h9aCfo
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brainbomb (290 D)
08 Oct 16 UTC
How could Trump even win at this point?
Someone present a hypothetical scenario where fuckwad Trump could actually win?
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Jamiet99uk (865 D)
09 Oct 16 UTC
Clinton vs Trump - who would win?
With the US election looming, I'm surprised we haven't had more threads discussing this important issue.
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Lethologica (203 D)
08 Oct 16 UTC
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October Surprise!
SHOCKING new excerpts from Clinton's paid speeches released by Wikileaks reveal that Hillary's...just as boring a speechmaker in private paid speeches as in public ones, I guess?

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/56dyvg/wikileaks_appears_to_release_hillary_clintons/
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Hannibal76 (100 D(B))
07 Oct 16 UTC
Why do I still have questions?
Every once in a while I ask a question that I always feel I should know the answer to.
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Halls of Mandos (1019 D)
07 Oct 16 UTC
Feast of Our Lady of the Rosary
Today we celebrate the miraculous victory of Catholic Europe over the invading Turks at the Battle of Lepanto.
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brainbomb (290 D)
06 Oct 16 UTC
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Save the Bees
http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/sustainable-agriculture/save-the-bees/
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captainmeme (1723 DMod)
02 Sep 16 UTC
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New Online Diplomacy Podcast!
Some friends of mine from vDip - The Ambassador and Kaner406 - have started up a Diplomacy Podcast focused on the online scene. You can find it here: http://diplomacygames.com/

It's also on iTunes, Overtune and Stitcher (search 'Diplomacy Games'), and should be on Google Play but hasn't appeared there yet for some reason.
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Pimp_Magician (5 DX)
05 Oct 16 UTC
Roleplay
Would there be any interest in a role play game of Dip?
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brainbomb (290 D)
04 Oct 16 UTC
Mitch McConnell blames Obama
http://crooksandliars.com/2016/09/mitch-mcconnell-paul-ryan-forget-how-run
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delarosa (232 D)
06 Oct 16 UTC
suspicious of multi
Hi admin, could you please check for multi in the game- http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=182721 ; ID#182721
its suspicious as they expended really weirdly.

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taos (281 D)
06 Oct 16 UTC
where do i need to post a missfunction?
When i enter orders from my android ,the bottom order always does not let the option for the next .
It is a minor issue but why not fix it.
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brainbomb (290 D)
05 Oct 16 UTC
Voting for third party candidates- the height of white male privilege.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/formerlyfundie/im-a-privileged-white-guy-so-im-giving-away-my-vote-this-election/
H
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KingCyrus (511 D)
05 Oct 16 UTC
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Fix the USA
(or any other country)
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akshu0919 (286 D)
06 Oct 16 UTC
Nightime Gunboats
Gunboat game starting in 30 minutes. Can we please get 7 people to join?
URL: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=183662
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brainbomb (290 D)
07 Sep 16 UTC
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Dakota Access Pipeline Must be Stopped
https://www.google.com/amp/www.ecowatch.com/sacred-burial-grounds-dakota-access-pipeline-1998932006.amp.html
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brainbomb (290 D)
07 Sep 16 UTC
People should be outraged. Under what authority is any of this happening? Republicans should be furious.
krellin (80 DX)
07 Sep 16 UTC
lol Silly brainbomb.
krellin (80 DX)
07 Sep 16 UTC
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What *really* frosts my weenie is that some damned housing developer tore up the woods where I have laid many generations of dead cats and dogs to rest. My family pet cemetary is now a tacky fucking colonial.

Bastards.

Here's some advice: If you don't want your burial grounds torn up....win the fucking war.

Have to fear brainbutt...that pipeline will continue.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
07 Sep 16 UTC
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K, krellin is an awful human being.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
07 Sep 16 UTC
Also, in other news, this pipeline is no different than the thousands of others. They have no chance of stopping it.
Ogion (3882 D)
07 Sep 16 UTC
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Actually many pipelines have been stopped. It'll depend on the courts
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
07 Sep 16 UTC
Yeah, and they have followed the legal precedents set before them. So far, they're within legal bounds, though the destruction of the burial site may end badly for them in court.
krellin (80 DX)
08 Sep 16 UTC
Bo, I'm awful, and yet you 100% agree with me that <blah blah blah whine whine whine...> the pipeline will go on....BECAUSEEEEEEEE....the Indians lost the fucking war. Get over it.
CommanderByron (801 D(S))
08 Sep 16 UTC
As sad as it is, Krellin is kinda right. Because white America won the war ; native people don't have nearly the same protections under the law. It's an example of the winner righting history and the future. In this future burial grounds don't matter.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
08 Sep 16 UTC
What you two are claiming:

Because we won the war (which was never declared, by the way), genocide and extermination of their cultures is permissible.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
08 Sep 16 UTC
From krellin I expect no better, because, as I said, he's awful, but CB, really?
orathaic (1009 D(B))
08 Sep 16 UTC
NB krellin is encouraging the protesters to use violence and declare war.

I will keep that in mind when people start being shot.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
08 Sep 16 UTC
CB is right in saying 'this is why Natives have no rights', i'm not sure he agrees they *should* have no/less rights.

But he can correct me if i'm wrong.

@CB do you believe that all men are created equal? And thus deserve equal rights?
krellin (80 DX)
08 Sep 16 UTC
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Bo, nothing about the defeat of the Indians has caused either the genocide of Indians (i.e. they are STILL here, dumbass) or the extinction of their culture.

I see no movement within the US to extinguish Indian culture. Whether or not the Indian culture survives is up to people of Indian heritage, just like within the krellin household their are certain family traditions relating to our cultural past that we keep alive, etc.

Seriously, college boy, time to stop being a whining Libtard and let people take responsbility for themselves. If you are looking for <ANY not-an-Indian-Group> to tbe the protectors and preservers of Indian culture, then you are fucking stupider than i thought you were.

Maybe the fucking Indians should take some personal responsbility for their culture if you think it is in danger of becoming extinct.

In fact, most people of Indian heritage have long-ago left the <ghettos> Indian Reservations and entered American society in general, whereby they can:
1. Participate in a successful culture in which they are more than welcome and encouraged to succeeed economically, etc. (Which, I think Bo-Hypocrite is attempting to do with his "com[any"
2. STILL preserve their culture in any way shape and form they wish...only now they can do it with the backing of their newfound American-culture-derived wealth.

Holding on to some dried up piece of desert and crying over it through the drunken tears as you clutch your bottle of booze isn't helping Indians in any way...and like it or not, alcoholism and child rape seem to be the most popular activities on the reservations these days, in addition to selling "authentic bead jewelry", no doubt made of lovely plastic beads imported from China...
krellin (80 DX)
08 Sep 16 UTC
Bo....by the way...I do recall you have some Indian blood in you....hence your FEIGNED outrage at my percieved "dissing" of the Indians. (I'm sorry you are so offended at a realistic view of the situation...).

In all your glorious outrage....WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU EVER DONE TO PRESERVE YORU WONDERFUL INDIAN CULTURE?

Is trolling the folrums of WebDiplomacy for the last 5 years the fulfillment of some secret Indian Prophesy none have ever heard of? Are you THE ONE in Indian Culture?

Or are you YET AGAIN just another whiny ass Liberal bitch complaining about blah blah blah because your Libtard Masters have instructed you to be Outraged?
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
08 Sep 16 UTC
Krellin, you have way too much fun on this forum. You should try reddit, you'd be a star there.
Octavious (2701 D)
08 Sep 16 UTC
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Clearly all men are not created equal, and many aren't deserving of any rights whatsoever, but all should start off with them by virtual of being born human.

On the issue of this burial ground, am I right in understanding that, until very recently, the Indians themselves were unaware of it? If so I struggle to buy the argument that it's a site of great sacred significance.

Coming from an island where most of the cities are, by necessity, built on really quite recent burial grounds, and where the ancient burial sites of our ancestors are considered great spots for a picnic, I confess to struggling slightly with the concept. Still, if this was a well loved site of pilgrimage I would be very much in support of keeping it sacred. Purely from an archeological perspective there's a strong argument for not turning it into an industrial site.

All rather unfortunate.
krellin (80 DX)
08 Sep 16 UTC
Octavious, all men are created equal, but "rights" to a fucking piece of ground has nothing to do with the natural rights that come with being a human. Such "rights" belong to THE VICTOR....
krellin (80 DX)
08 Sep 16 UTC
Bo's above comment can be interpretted lilke this:

"krellin is correct in what he has said, but because I, Bo, have no intellectual integrity, I'm going to make a snarky comment rather than admit my thoughts are childish and krellin has schooled me yet again."
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
08 Sep 16 UTC
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All right, krellin, I'll bite.

"Bo, nothing about the defeat of the Indians has caused either the genocide of Indians (i.e. they are STILL here, dumbass) or the extinction of their culture."

The "Indians" - which apparently still doesn't mean people from India - were not "defeated," they were, as I like to say, accidentally exterminated. Between the time that Columbus arrived in the Caribbean and dubbed the people he saw as "Indians" and when the pilgrims began writing history, this little bug that your pint-sized brain might not be able to comprehend called smallpox came about. And what did it do? Well, besides eradicating 96% of the "Indians" in Massachusetts - which was so densely populated that Giovanni da Verrazzano said that, along with the rest of the eastern coastline, he could smell bonfires from a hundred miles offshore. Otherwise, the disease took out over 90% of the "Indians" nationwide, which is nothing. So it was no big deal.

For reference, the Black Plague - emphasis on the word "plague" - killed between 30% and 50% of Europeans over the course of 200-300 years. In the five years after 1342, when it is believed to have found its way to Europe on a trade ship, it killed nearly 20% of the European population. That's a lot. It devastated Europe. The classical age never arose again and, for all intents and purposes, that culture died and is only studied but rarely practiced today in favor of the Enlightenment.

The smallpox plague that went across North America is, consequently, the worst mass epidemic of a disease in known human history. The Europeans walked into a land where the people were already dying in a sort of apocalyptic event - think Walking Dead except that they didn't really have the strength to fight back the majority of the time. That's not defeat, that's just horrifying.

"I see no movement within the US to extinguish Indian culture."

WEELLLLLLLLLLLL you should look harder. Smallpox alone isn't genocide, you fucking idiot. See, the highest estimates suggest that North America was home to about 100 million people before Europeans showed up. The lowest say that it was home to about 12 million. Either way, the population by 1900 in all of North America (including Canada and Mexico, and, at the time, the largely untouched swathes of Alaska) was no more than 200,000-250,000. How it got there is by a) burning and pillaging villages, b) praying towns, where they literally grabbed the next generation of "Indians" and dropped them in Puritan-style homes with Bibles and an oil lantern and just left them, c) reservations, which picked up "Indians" from their homes and dropped them somewhere where it was convenient for you and I to not notice them anymore, or d) the fucking Trail of Tears and countless other historical events like it that evidently you haven't heard of. By the way, 250,000 isn't a lot of people. That's about as many people that live in Grand Rapids. Spread them continent-wide. Take that and split it up into hundreds, if not thousands, of surviving tribal groups and you have a pretty stupidly fucking genocidal scenario where countless tribes could be classified as at immediate risk of extinction according to the Endangered Species Act - you know, since you seem to feel like "Indians" are little more than animals anyway.

How many are there today? 5.2 million. Obviously, that's a lot higher. I can't wait to hear you argue that that somehow implies that they're not subject genocide today. First off, they still live predominantly in these reservations, and 11 of the 20 poorest counties in the whole of the US are reservation counties. Here's a fun example from a source I can see you masturbating to, hopefully in private:

http://www.businessinsider.com/bi-dangerous-indian-reservation-2012-2

Here's another, but I don't think even you can jerk off twice in a row:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/03/13/5-ways-the-government-keeps-native-americans-in-poverty/#621ee0176cc6

I'm bored of teaching you the most basic history that fucking PBS Kids writes about and you're stroking yourself, so I'm done.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
08 Sep 16 UTC
Oh, yeah, read this too:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism#Ethnic_nationalism
krellin (80 DX)
08 Sep 16 UTC
bo, accidental disease is no more genocide that you dying of cancer is murder, dumbass.

and a group of people accidently dying isn't the extermination of their culture.

THERE ARE STILL INDIANS AND THEIR CULTURE IS STILL AROUND FUCKTARD.


God, what the fuck have they done to the remnants of your brain in school?


The problem isn't with the facts that you are presenting, which nobody denies....the problem is with your fucking cry-me-a-river, childish Libtard interpretation of them. EVERYTHING must be super-drama, everything must be doom!!!!

Grow the hell up, man. If you are so fucking concerned with the existence of Indian culture....WHICH IS DOING FINE AND WELL, dumbass...just leave your fucking protected city and travel out west...or travel to one of the many Indian casinos (which according to Indian tribes must be a VERY important part of their culture, as they work so hard to maintain ownership of them................because, you know, culture is important....)

krellin (80 DX)
08 Sep 16 UTC
Wiki (since all you dumb kids love Wiki..._):
Genocide is the intentional action to destroy a people in whole or in part.

ACCIDENTAL DEATH IS NOT INTENTIONAL fucktard.
AND THEY STILL EXIST fucktard.
krellin (80 DX)
08 Sep 16 UTC
As for, "Yeah, but we DID kill some on purpose...."

Then maybe they shouldna picked a fight with a superior fucking culture that accidentally showed up on their shores...
krellin (80 DX)
08 Sep 16 UTC
Anddddddd.....you know, Boo(hoo hoo), the Indians ALSO had this REALLY NAST HABIT of fucking KILLING EACH OTHER OFF TOO.

In fact...had we not more efficiently done the job of controlling the land mass we now enjoy, and had we not accidently showed up...their probably would NOT be as many Indian Tribes as there are today, because, you know, warlike fucking Indians liked to kill each other over territory too.

Your story-book peaceful fucking tee-pee dwelling indians who only wanted to smokem' peace pipe is a FICTION played upon your sad brain by bleeding heart Liberals who can never find evil in the losers of any conflict. (Hence, street thugs which bite a cop's bullet when cop defends himself from violent attack suddenly become angelic saints who never harmed a fly...)
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
08 Sep 16 UTC
http://endgenocide.org/learn/past-genocides/native-americans/

The United States, Canada, and Mexico have each taken intentional action to destroy indigenous North Americans in whole or in part.

If you read what I said, you would notice that a) I'm responding to a vastly incorrect point you made about the natives being "defeated" when I bring up smallpox, and b) I explicitly said that accidentally spreading smallpox is not genocide.

"Then maybe they shouldna picked a fight with a superior fucking culture that accidentally showed up on their shores..."

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"Anddddddd.....you know, Boo(hoo hoo), the Indians ALSO had this REALLY NAST HABIT of fucking KILLING EACH OTHER OFF TOO."

I never claimed that indigenous culture is or ever was perfect. I disagree with a lot of their policy stances today, believe it or not. None of that justifies the death or displacement of a single person.
jmo1121109 (3812 D)
08 Sep 16 UTC
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"Then maybe they shouldna picked a fight with a superior fucking culture that accidentally showed up on their shores..."

Ahh, so then by this logic, the most powerful countries in the world have the right to invade anyone they wish and wipe out most of their population if they fight back? Did you pick that line up in a Nazi shop?
TrPrado (461 D)
08 Sep 16 UTC
Doesn't this pipeline also run under the river where these people get water? With a risk of drinking water contaminated by oil, I'd throw shit around too.
brainbomb (290 D)
08 Sep 16 UTC
If you watch any of the coverage of the protests they arent even calling themselves protestors. They said they are literally defending their water supply with their very lives.
JamesYanik (548 D)
08 Sep 16 UTC
Also, the idea that all Indians were violent is right wing revisionism

the French traders made it all the way to the West coast with minimal violence. The idea that the best culture won, is basically justifying 9/11, saying "hey man, they wanna fight then we'll give them a fight"

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