Just because you don't have a fucking clue how to use your moves to diplome, doesn't mean there is no diplomacy in gunboat.

does ne one want to play a live game

Suck my balls, Draugnar. Yes, there is a minimal amount of diplomacy in gunboat. No, it does not come anywhere fucking close to the amount of diplomacy that goes on in a real game. Yes, I play it anyway, because I apparently have a gaming problem. But I don't fucking start them because they are inferior. So why do people start them?

Definitely Turkey.
No question.
Central powers do badly, because they need to stay alive and negotiate with others.
But Turkey stays alive easily, and only has to deal with two powers, neither of which particularly wants to fight him.
I'm actually surprised Turkey doesn't always do really well in gunboats.
The only disadvantage is that your supply centres are usually far away from the action in the late game.

No thanks, Bob. But tell your wife she did a great job cleaning mine and I'm sorry if my load was so great that she got sick to her stomach after swalling the whole gallon last night.

Austria. You usually have two enemies and one ally set in stone, and there's hardly a way to change it.

I'm surprised she actually swallowed, instead of insisting that you paint her face like a Pollock.

Anyway, getting back to what's important, why the fuck would anyone actually prefer to play gunboat over an anon game?

France

I disagree. Too easy and often do I see French players get gangbanged

^^^
I hate being France and Russia in gunboat.

Turkey definitely the best for the reason Baron stated above. I think Russia is the worst as it seems as though you are always attacked by everyone.,

I still say austria or italy followed by england.

1. Italy. Austria will ally with you or you can grab a piece of the austro pie
2. Italy will likely ally with you but don't expect it. Austra italy alliance is mighty
3. England harder to signify an alliance but someone is going to want to be your friends usually.

In gunboat its all tactics and finding that one ally those nations excel because its either easy to signal allegiance or you are wanted and desirable as an ally

I've got to go with Austria. Austria's biggest weakness is that if any two of the other Eastern powers team up against it, it's gone in the first few years. In gunboat, the chances of a coherent strategy coming together to knock off Austria is much lower, meaning that Austria can make it to the midgame, where it thrives.

@bob: i start gunboats because i want to play a game that takes a few hours at most, and 5min phases don't allow enough time to properly diplome...and i doubt the title of the game minds, that's rediculous.

Italy is horrible in no press games. See gameID=13377 and gameID=14126, the only no press games I've played. I got Italy in both of them. Italy is in a horrible position to expand and conflict with your neigbours is unavoidabe. Nevertheless, I think I played Italy pretty well in those games.

There is no such thing as an "easiest" country. It all comes down to personal preference and playing style. For each country, you'll find decent players saying that it's the best or the worst. However, it is a meaningful (or at least useful) discussion for people talk about what they prefer and how they feel it suits their playing style.

yebellz: Then how would you play as Italy in a no press game?

Well, I'm not saying that I would like to play Italy in a gunboat game. Actually, I haven't tried a gunboat with Italy yet, but I have a feeling that I might not do well with Italy in gunboat. I would probably order Ven S hold Tri and hope that Austria understands the power of an Italian-Austrian alliance. However, if Austria doesn't, I would try to work with Russia to take out Austria and Turkey. Of course, this hinges immensely on what the other players decide to do. I would hope that Russia sees Austria and Turkey as his primary threats/targets, and that France is tied up trying to resolve the Western triangle.

Maybe you should ask Centurion to expand on his opinions. He said a few posts ago that he actually thinks that Italy is amongst the easiest.

In my previous post, all that I was saying was that with Diplomacy (in general, not just gunboat), the idea of a universal "best/easiest" or "worst/hardest" country is a little bit silly. What matters is how well a player's playing style and game strategy fits that country. Also, what probably matters even more is the style and strategies of the other players and how one can read the situation and adapt one's own strategy and style appropriately.

Whenever there is a thread like this, we get people with vastly different opinions. Every power get its supporters and detractors. I think that simply saying something like "Country X is the best" or "Country X is the worst" doesn't really contribute to the conversation. However, if people discuss their reasons, and try to understand and explain how their playing style and/or strategies influence their successes or failures with a particular country, then I think we would have a very meaningful and worthwhile discussion.

yebellz: I'll respond.

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Tsk...
Easy: France.