Oh, I thought that the first group corresponded to the first game, the second to the second game, and the third to the third game, which was wrong. Thanks!

I'm not sure I understand the preference system correctly, could you clarify that for me?
If I set my preferences to EF / ATI / GR (for example) will that mean that I will get either E or F for game 1, A,T or I for game two and G or R for game 3?
Or will you attempt to allocate me both E and F (first preference) and one out of ATI (second preference) if possible?
Furthermore, could I also send them in with another distribution of the group size (i.e. EF / AT / IGR)?

They do. I'm not sure I get you. Essentially, we're submitting three preference lists by splitting the 7 countries among those three groups.

So if the list I submit is AFI / GE / RT,
then AFI is my list for Game 1,
GE my list for Game 2
and RT my list for Game 3

The allocation for each game is decided by running through everybody's preference lists from top to bottom. So in Game 1, if Austria doesn't figure on top of anyone else's list, I get Austria. If it also figures on top of your list, neither of us gets Austria, and we're both moved a spot down on our list. Does that clear things up a bit more?

^ was to uclabb, but the second half should clarify Maettu's points as well.

You'll have to split the 7 countries into two groups of 2 each and one group of three, but once you've split them like that, you can assign them to games any way you like.

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We're into the second round of this year's tournament, so you can't join right now. But there will be a call for participation around September next year again, and then we pick the top 28 people by GR, so lookout for that one. We do keep needing people when others have to drop out, so there is a back-up list somewhere that is always open.

Thanks for clarifying, I understand how the list work now.

Doesn't feel too neat a system to me as it is quite random (i.e. if two players choose the same country first for game 1 we both get "punished" (and lets face it, its somewhat random how I allocate the lists between group 1, 2 and 3) while others are lucky enough to avoid that and get the countries they want).

Wouldn't it make more sense if all the players just post their wish-list (order of countries)? Then you could simply distribute the countries amongst the players and then alocate them to the games. That way at least everybody would get the countries (or at least 3 out of the top 4-5) they want.

I'd even prefer a completely random distribution, but then again its your decision.

It's the best you can do with a preference-based system, really. You're right in the first observation, but the way to look at it is it incentivizes putting up less popular countries as your first preference, so you end up with a country you're fine with playing, instead of one you randomly ended up with because the more popular options clashed.

We did random for the first round, and I thought that ended up being a bit skewed, so I'm trying to see if this makes things more even.

I'm quite sure there have to be better systems out there. There have to, really.

For example the preference-list worked quite well for one game (we usually used that to distribute countries for our ppm games years ago) and I would expect it isn't any different for three parallel games.

Basically everyone wrote a preference list (1-7) with all the countries. Then we tried to give everyone a country as high up on the list as possible.

I have lists from discordia and Kamen.
Waiting on lists from the others in Group Y.

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I have lists from discordia, Kamen, Lando and jcbryan.
Waiting on lists from Manas, BrianOfBoru and giorgio.

Waiting on BrianOfBoru and giorgio.

Just mailed Geofram with Group X country allocations

and i have to say, thank you for my allocations :)

Group X: We can un-pause and play.
Group Y: I've mailed in your country allocations. You can start as soon as the changes are put in.

We can break for the holidays when somebody becomes unavailable. Post here with the break you need and we'll agree on something that works for everyone. Good luck!

Group Y: Changes have been made. We owe Geo for the insanely fast response times. Un-pause and play.

What's up with Y2? With the other games unpaused, shouldn't this be going as well?

Geo, pls force unpause in Y2 game, if possible =).

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What's the status of this tournament? Are the semi-finals all finished?

All three Group X games are still going on. Group Y games have finished

So the three automatic qualifiers are Manas, giorgio and myself?

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@Lando: Yes, the three of you qualify for the finals, plus possibly a fourth depending on how Group X games end, which might take a while considering they're all still ~ 1907.