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DipperDon (6457 D)
30 Jan 09 UTC
To strictly follow the rules of Diplomacy...
All communications should be deactivated during retreats and build/disband phases.

Comments?
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jadayne (283 D)
30 Jan 09 UTC
Forum Format
Based on the activity of this community and frequency of posts, I think we could use a new forum format.


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mentat (153 D)
30 Jan 09 UTC
Moderator request
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=7935
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flashman (2274 D(G))
30 Jan 09 UTC
Why isn't Sicarius in Davos throwing bricks? ; )
Is he going soft?
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mapleleaf (0 DX)
29 Jan 09 UTC
The meta-game in the leagues.
Is it's presence inevitable? Is it an acceptable strategy? Is it purism to scoff at the meta-game?
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xgongiveit2ya55 (789 D)
30 Jan 09 UTC
(Another) New Gunboat Game!
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=8411

Same deal: 24hr phases, 50pts WTA
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Savlian (100 D)
29 Jan 09 UTC
Hacking
With the recent spike of hacking occuring on this site, I would like to call upon the admins to raise security.
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xcurlyxfries (0 DX)
30 Jan 09 UTC
Holy Crapsicle
:O
I was supposed to be account sitting for sir sithers and just checked my junk folder on my email, and it was from the 20th... LOL sorry man xD. I just checked my email today!
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danikine74 (167 D)
29 Jan 09 UTC
if one in seven wont play...

What could we do if one of seven players dont want to continue to play?? can a moderator push this player out?? can he play alone, the others continue in another game??
He s the one not to unpause, he may want to continue to do so for ever, can a moderator do something?
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wooooo (926 D)
30 Jan 09 UTC
1 hour phase game?
Anyone want to do it? I will password the game so only those commited to the turns will play (And we should agree to get orders in after 15 minutes so we that we can finish in a 2-3 hours)
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Jacob (2711 D)
29 Jan 09 UTC
here vs. facebook
It seems a shame to have the exact same program with mostly totally different people. Is there a way to combine the two? Our community would be much more robust that way.
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urallLESBlANS (0 DX)
30 Jan 09 UTC
Question witht the rules
Can a fleet attacking one coast cut the support of a fleet on the other coast?
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
28 Jan 09 UTC
Draugnar:
WHO IS DIPLOFOOL?

lol you are obsessed with that guy...
assuming he exists
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mastadisasta (100 D)
29 Jan 09 UTC
multiaccounter
in this game http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=8120, austria and russia are the same person (general grevious and rommeltastic). they put on a show for the first couple rounds and then don't attack each other. when i write messages they respond in the same way. for example when i asked if they were the same guy they both responded in the same way.
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Andrew102 (100 D)
29 Jan 09 UTC
New game-Super low stakes for noobs
The buy in is only 5 point buy in and are for new players.
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
28 Jan 09 UTC
What if I just started 111 games?
I mean... I could. Would that like overdraw my account or something?
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mac (189 D)
27 Jan 09 UTC
EOG statement // GFDT - R1 - G10
Game: http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=6882
Country played by me: England

(see comments for the text)
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DingleberryJones (4469 D(B))
28 Jan 09 UTC
Why would I want to join this site?
Based on this forum
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El_Perro_Artero (707 D)
29 Jan 09 UTC
Sicarius
dagger, male assassin, spider, or suicidal Jewish extremist?

(explanation in 1st post)
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MANoWARchests (100 D)
29 Jan 09 UTC
Convoy support question
Let's say I want to support move a convoy move from another country? Do I support move the area/unit that is making the convoy or do i support move the unit that is being convoyed? thanks in advance
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
28 Jan 09 UTC
Questions
This is probably going to end up being to cgwhite, but anyone else can pile in too. Can anyone explain the format of the debates on second readings in the UK house of commons?
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Jacob (2711 D)
29 Jan 09 UTC
rules question
I thought I had it all figured out...
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General_Ireland (366 D)
29 Jan 09 UTC
GFDT and League Info
Does anybody know the link to the site where you can check up on current GFDT and League standings? I tried www.llamanation.org but it doesn't have any content on this year's tournament or the leagues :S.
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chelseapip (303 D)
28 Jan 09 UTC
How Many Ds
Is there any way that you can tell how many Ds you have tied up in Games?
chelseapip (303 D)
28 Jan 09 UTC
I was wondering if there was any way of showing how many Ds you would be worth based on your current games in progress.

As a Newbie to this site and many a long year since I plaed F2F I have entered a lot of games (New Games and taking over various challenging CDs) to raise my experience.

I am now wondering how many Ds I would have if I just let them all FInisnh without joining any more.

This would give me a better indicator if I am becoming a better player or not than the current Ranking.

Any thoughts on this please post.
Centurian (3257 D)
28 Jan 09 UTC
Once you buy into a game you lose the points. You "buy" a stake or "power" in that game. You don't have any points that aren't in your account. The only indicator that you might have would be looking at your game's pots, calculating your expected result and totalling that number.
Draugnar (0 DX)
28 Jan 09 UTC
Pot / 34 * N where N = number of SCs you control will give you your current net worth in PPSC games. In WTA, if you aren't in the lead or tied for it, you aren't in the money...

Based on those figures and dividing the one WTA game I'm tied for first in (so divided by 2) my current vesting is 246 so I have a total net worth of 328.

I ran your numbers through Excel and came up with your networth at 86 Daggers, 84 in games and 2 in the bank.

Draugnar (0 DX)
28 Jan 09 UTC
By the way, Chelsea. I (and I'm sure others agree) think 10 games is probably more than you should attempt at any one time.
Chrispminis (916 D)
28 Jan 09 UTC
Indeed, you should probably cut down on games because you'll only lower your standard of play.
philcore (317 D(S))
28 Jan 09 UTC
some slight modifications to the answers above:

If you're wondering about the 100 point minimum when you're not in any games, that's based on your bets, not your values in the games.

For your value in any game, the formula is slightly more complicated than Draugnar presented. It's actually:

PPSC * N where N is number of SCs you own.
PPSC = Round(Pot / ASC) where ASC are the active SCs owned - i.e. 34 - CDSCs - NuetralSCs.

For instance - take a look at:
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=8313

This has a CD russia in Spring 01 (possibly a ban?) so there are lots of Neutrals still.

Pot = 140
CDSCs = 4
NuetralSCs = 12

So pot / 34 x 4 = 16.47 or 16 rounded down, but you can see the buyin is much greater than that.

PPSC = Round(Pot / ASC) = Round(140 / 18) = Round(7.77) = 8

so PPSC * 4 = 32, which is the buy in as you can see.
Draugnar (0 DX)
28 Jan 09 UTC
HEy philcor, I wasn't trying to provide the buyin, just a means of estimating your current net worth. For what it is worth, I haven't looked at the code, but I know I got a rounding done after the multiplication recently as my points earned would have been lower in a recent draw if the roudning were done at the SC level, not at the whole nation level.

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=7969 earned me 15 points for 10 SCs, but the put was only 54 points, meaning a rounding down would have given 1 per SC and a proper rounding would have given 2. The only way I could get 15, not 10 or 20, is if the rounding were at the nation level.
philcore (317 D(S))
28 Jan 09 UTC
Drauger - it turns out the amount you get for winning or surviving is the exact same formula as the buy in for a CD. I probably should have mentioned that for clarity.

But in the game you're refering to, that was drawn, so the three of you should have split the pot evenly. Since 54 is divisible by 3, I can't see any reason why each of you wouldn't have gotten 18 instead of 15. But I haven't looked at the code for drawing. Maybe I'll check it out real quick and reply again.

Draugnar (0 DX)
28 Jan 09 UTC
Yeah, I haven't looked at the code at all. Too much of my own code to work on. But, if what you describe is true, then people are getting ripped off of points somewhere. For instance, a 35 point pot (5x7 buyin) would only give out 34 points in payment.
Draugnar (0 DX)
28 Jan 09 UTC
I guess we could consider that the house's rake.
philcore (317 D(S))
28 Jan 09 UTC
Here is the draw code:
$winnings = round($this->pot / $players);

and it counts the players right above it in the function setDrawn(). Are you absolutely sure you got 15 and not 18?

As far as the rake - it evens out, because in that game say instead of 14/10/10 and a draw, it was 18/6/10 and you still had 10 but wew got the win.The points would have been distributed:
wideyedwanderer: 36 (a 7.38 rounding error in his favor)
you: 20 (a 4.1 rounding error in your favor)
VincentL: 12 (a 2.46 rounding error in his favor)

for a total of 68 - 14 points more than was in the pot.

This only happens this extreme (percentage wise) when the pot is so small, by the way. But it all evens out in the end
Draugnar (0 DX)
28 Jan 09 UTC
I could be mistaken and got 18. Didn't pay that close of attention. Your alternative makes sense, but somewhere I read it always rounds down (more of an INT or FLOOR than a ROUND function). With true rounging then the players may make more or less than they should have. If I were coding it, the rounding would occur at the nation level, not the SC level. But that's just my $.02 and 25 years of experience.
Draugnar (0 DX)
28 Jan 09 UTC
*25 years of PROGRAMMING experience. I'm 43 as of last week.
philcore (317 D(S))
28 Jan 09 UTC
you might have actually heard that from me while I was trying hard to guess what the hell was going on with the points a few months ago. When someone pointed me at the code, I figured, hell - I'll just look and see exactly what it's doing, rather than trying to reverse-engineer some formula from it.

But there was a point where I sugested floats instead of ints, and assuming it must be truncating, (floor) rather than true rounding, and all kinds of crazy guesses. The part I was always missing, when I was trying to figure it all out, was that it's only the active players SCs that are included in the calculation.
Draugnar (0 DX)
29 Jan 09 UTC
Interesting... So an 18 SC win in a game where 1 SC was never claimed and 6 others were in CD means the person with 18 gets 2/3 of the Ds +/- due to rounding at the SC. Very Interesting...
philcore (317 D(S))
29 Jan 09 UTC
yeah - if a game ends with a player in CD then all survivors benefit - not just the winner. They each proportionally split up the CD's winnings, in effect. A reward for sticking it out till the end!


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Kompole (546 D)
29 Jan 09 UTC
Live game - anyone interested?
I'd like to start a live game with 1-hour-per-phase. Is there anyone interested in joining?
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Pimpernel (115 D)
28 Jan 09 UTC
Hispano hablantes - Clear META GAMING
Please investigate Baltasor and Danikine74
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vekkna (110 D)
29 Jan 09 UTC
Link to Join Games
I hope someone can help me with this problem. I created a new private game and cut and pasted the link given to direct other players to the game, but it doesn't lead anywhere except to an error page. Any advice would be gratefully received.
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xcurlyxfries (0 DX)
29 Jan 09 UTC
Who has?
The closest daggers to rank?
My rank is 425th and I have 325 D's
so mine is 100 difference, whats yours?
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General_Ireland (366 D)
28 Jan 09 UTC
Would anyone be interested in a Gunboat game?
say 32 points, 36 hr phases, PPSC?
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Centurian (3257 D)
28 Jan 09 UTC
Frequently Asked Questions
We have a FAQ that hasn't been updated in ages. I think it needs a bit of an overall. Perhaps even a more prominent position on the site. What do you think should be added to the list? See below
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