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Lando Calrissian (50 D (S))
29 Dec 13 UTC
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05 FUCK EM
TYBG
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rollerfiend (773 D)
29 Dec 13 UTC
New Year's Plans
Anybody doing anything special to bring in 2014? Maybe a night out dancing downtown with friends? Perhaps a nice game on webdip? Share your 2014 New Year's plans!
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goldfinger0303 (1022 D)
29 Dec 13 UTC
Steam Games Charity Drive
Donate $25 and get 9 games on Steam. A good bargain, for a good cause, and you get to write it off on your taxes too.

https://www.humblebundle.com/yogscast
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MitchellCurtiss (164 D)
29 Dec 13 UTC
I'm bored
What should we talk about?
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dr. octagonapus (206 D)
29 Dec 13 UTC
Bored
Christmas has been and gone, before regular life starts back up I want something to entertain myself through the New Year...
Any Ideas
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MajorMitchell (999 D)
09 Dec 13 UTC
Ashes Test Cricket
Australia win at the Gabba & Adelaide
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bo_sox48 (4318 D Mod (G))
29 Dec 13 UTC
Religion
A little something a friend sent me today...
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Milkfx (118 D)
28 Dec 13 UTC
Message clarificiation
Trying to get to grips with the game in general.Just played a few no messaging anonymous games. Yet a clear pattern developed whereby different players would support other player's units that were in no danger at all. Is a common type of messaging e.g. ID132538#
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Thucydides (869 D (B))
19 Dec 13 UTC
The Great Debate -- read now
See inside:
Thucydides (869 D (B))
19 Dec 13 UTC
Hello, interested parties to the Great Debate - a civil, formal debate on the webdiplomacy forums. A work in progress since summer 2012, your lazy moderator, Thucydides, has at last decided to act.

Because of complications with the judges who minutiae are too complex to list here, it has been discussed privately among some of the debates that it may be best simply to publish the debates without judgments, and allow the judges to be recognized as "official" judges if they wish to post their opinions.

To those judges (myself included) who have already invested significant time to neutrally evaluate the arguments and compose opinions, I ask your apology and permission to go ahead with publishing these debates over the holidays.

My proposed action is this:

I will publish one of each of the four debates every 3 days (a usual cycle for a thread on our forum) starting on the earliest date of everyone's mutual convenience (I propose this Friday to start), each with its own thread, and a title that reflects the content of the debate.

Each thread will contain the rules, a link to the formatted document, and an in-thread text of the debate (unless this appears too long, but I think I will do it anyway).

It will then invite the audience to comment. No "voting" will take place, because this seems to be a fruitless exercise in any event.

Please use this thread for meta-commentary. I think any further delay on this is unnecessary, and that we can all agree (with most of the blame again on myself) that the dithering can safely end.

I would like to ask everyone's input though before moving, so this is your chance to have a word about it before Friday.

The purpose of having each debate in a separate thread is A) to reduce confusion in what would otherwise be a cluttered comment section and B) to introduce the debates to those who have not been following the saga since 2012, or who stopped caring to awhile ago. It will make them appear fresh, with a focus on the content rather than the original Great Debate thread and idea.

Let me know what you think. If no serious objections are raised by Friday evening, American time, I'll start posting them.
Thucydides (869 D (B))
19 Dec 13 UTC
The rules, if anyone would like to look them over, are here:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1T3mVge_mAGdxCLpjHsRzjji2CfVoTzKb86SY1ht2-bo/edit?usp=sharing
abgemacht (840 D (G))
19 Dec 13 UTC
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After waiting 30 years, why did you decide to post these right before Christmas when most people will be busy with the holidays? : )
Thucydides (869 D (B))
19 Dec 13 UTC
you dont think christmas is actually a good time? i know ill have more free time. in my experience the activity frequently goes up on holidays here
Thucydides (869 D (B))
19 Dec 13 UTC
If I post them as I suggest they will go up on the 20th, 23rd, 26th, and 29th, in order. Idk. I feel like people always sit around at home on their computers over the holidays, if not on Christmas day itself. Maybe I won't count the 24th and 25th.

I could do 26th, 29th, 1st, and 4th. I'm open to suggestions.
abgemacht (840 D (G))
19 Dec 13 UTC
I think it's fine; I'm just giving you a hard time. If I can even find my responses, I'll post them.
Thucydides (869 D (B))
19 Dec 13 UTC
Yeah if my format is acceptable to you, I invite you to post them as replies to the thread. I will be indicating who was originally selected to judge, so everyone will know.
Thucydides (869 D (B))
19 Dec 13 UTC
How about 20th, 24th, 28th, and the 1st?
abgemacht (840 D (G))
19 Dec 13 UTC
20, 23, 27, and 30 may make more sense.
Thucydides (869 D (B))
19 Dec 13 UTC
alright. alternatively i could just post them when i feel like the previous one has died down so that there isnt too much fatigue by the end. lol. if everyone trusts me to do that, anyway.
pangloss (208 D)
19 Dec 13 UTC
Do you guys do any "Great Debates" on other topics? And, just out of curiosity, why have you picked Christianity only and not any of the other myriad religions?
Thucydides (869 D (B))
19 Dec 13 UTC
haha you might want to do a site search of "great debate"

basically there was a time when religion debates (read: christians v atheists) dominated this forum. obiwanobiwan posed the idea of having a formal debate on the forum. slowly, what you are about to see in the next few days took shape.
semck83 (229 D (B))
19 Dec 13 UTC
Thank you for getting this done, Thucy.

I think my debate is the first. I'd really appreciate it if could end up at a different date than currently slated, though. I'll have relatively little time to participate in the discussion, which I'd really like to do, thanks to Christmas. After Christmas would be better; January better still. But please, please don't make any changes that will jeopardize its getting up at all.
I don't even remember any specific arguments I made and there's a good chance I don't have the original files still on my computer. lmao

I'll do my best to remember my line of thought and discuss it!
dipplayer2004 (1151 D)
19 Dec 13 UTC
Bring it on!!!
ckroberts (3079 D)
19 Dec 13 UTC
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It's a Christmas miracle!
Draugnar (0 D X)
19 Dec 13 UTC
Whenever is fine by me. But I do wish you would have sent the remaining set to me to finish my judging, even though I never could get through Obiwan's prattling on. :-)
Thucydides (869 D (B))
19 Dec 13 UTC
Yeah I know how you feel draug but I couldn't get to every judge so it seemed unfair to have some and not others. You are free as I am to post in the thread with your judge's opinion and all the judges' names are recognized in the official documents.

So I take it we are all okay with publishing them sans judgement in the doc, and in separate threads. I will take semck's advice and wait until the weekend after Xmas to start posting them. And then, without other recommendation, I will post a new one when the debate from the last has died down.

For the debater's themselves and I suppose any judges, PM me if you want to see the google doc version of the debate now before publishing.

Do note that the versions are final - they're for you to read, not make changes to.

That ship sailed like a year ago lol.

Anyway glad to see we're mostly on board here.
Thucydides (869 D (B))
22 Dec 13 UTC
bump for visibility
Draugnar (0 D X)
22 Dec 13 UTC
One thing to point out is we judges weren't supposed to pick a aide so mich as select who presented the better argument. We could choose one as the best argument even if we disagreed with it. This was about debating skills, not the subject being debated.
Numbat (584 D (S))
22 Dec 13 UTC
Given that the topic appears to be somewhat religious in nature ("christians vs atheists"), wouldn't it be more fair to the Christians to wait until after Xmas?
Putin33 (111 D)
22 Dec 13 UTC
So by "read now" you mean read later. What a tease.
ckroberts (3079 D)
24 Dec 13 UTC
I guess this is waiting until after Christmas?
Thucydides (869 D (B))
28 Dec 13 UTC
I will be posting debate #1 today, stay tuned
abgemacht (840 D (G))
28 Dec 13 UTC
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Today, Thucy? Are you sure? I don't think enough suspense has been built up. Let's aim for middle of 2015.
OH MY GOD CHRISTMAS IS EARLY
pun fully intended hue
semck83 (229 D (B))
28 Dec 13 UTC
One remark I have to make as this momentous event finally occurs -- one of the reasons I participated in the Great Debate was that I don't have time to argue these very important things with everybody on the forum who brings them up; and it seemed very worthwhile to have a (hopefully) high-quality version of some standard arguments around. One appealing thing about the idea of judges was that they would focus on that specific debate, on its own terms.

One of my regrets, then, about the judges having been cancelled is that the discussion will probably just evolve quickly into a bunch of different people offering their own attempted refutations of one or the other side's arguments -- natural, of course, but it's what I didn't have time for before, and I still don't. So I hope that responders will give at least some of their time and energy to the debates as they actually transpired, and not just as they would have liked them to. There are all too many interesting arguments for all of them to be explored on webdip.

Still, it's great that it's finally coming out, and I do look forward to as lively a discussion as my schedule will permit me to enjoy.
Putin33 (111 D)
28 Dec 13 UTC
For someone who never has any time, you sure do have a lot of time.
semck83 (229 D (B))
28 Dec 13 UTC
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Yes, and for someone who's supposed to get a lot done, I sure don't get a lot done.
Yellowjacket (835 D (B))
29 Dec 13 UTC
So when's the next debate? Old YJ wants a crack at it.
ckroberts (3079 D)
29 Dec 13 UTC
I'm pleased with the quality of the first debate, but like YJ I am eager to see the others.


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abgemacht (840 D (G))
28 Dec 13 UTC
Guns of Icarus Online
Currently available on Steam for $5. A truly great game at that price. Crews of 4 man Blimps in air-to-air combat!
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bo_sox48 (4318 D Mod (G))
27 Dec 13 UTC
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...
http://news.yahoo.com/u-judge-says-nsa-phone-data-program-lawful-163733246.html

Hahahaha! Ha hahaha... haha........
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Dharmaton (2478 D)
28 Dec 13 UTC
Gems from Quebec, unique & rare ...
https://www.facebook.com/gemsquebec
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abgemacht (840 D (G))
28 Dec 13 UTC
Chess Tournament Replacement Needed
We need a replacement player for our Chess tournament over at GameKnot. If you're interested in playing a few rounds of Chess, please let me know.
http://webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?viewthread=1068344#1068344
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ssorenn (2400 D (G))
26 Dec 13 UTC
what is the average age?
what do you think the average age of diplomacy players on this site is?
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SantaClausowitz (310 D)
27 Dec 13 UTC
Laptops
What are you all using?
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NigeeBaby (100 D (G))
20 Dec 13 UTC
Uganda off my Xmas card list........
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-25463942
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Strauss (3384 D)
27 Dec 13 UTC
Error Message
Hallo!

4 replies
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Strauss (3384 D)
26 Dec 13 UTC
CD robber of the month
France and Russian
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abgemacht (840 D (G))
24 Dec 13 UTC
Just The Tip
I'm curious how other people tip, especially in other countries, where it may not be as common.

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rokakoma (18688 D)
27 Dec 13 UTC
Draug goes Gunboat
Draug wants to play a quality gunboat. Let's give it to him.
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President Eden (3028 D)
25 Dec 13 UTC
Why do atheisms hate Christians so much
As I reflect on the REASON for the SEASON.........I have to ask myself why it is that atheisms despise Christians so much. Don't they know.That they celebrate CHRISTmas like everyone else??....Why cant they just.Accept God.??

Merry CHRISTmas WEBDIPLOMACY.net
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rokakoma (18688 D)
25 Dec 13 UTC
Invitation to join the 10k+ points owners' club
Dear fellow players, since the number of 10k+ points holders has diminished recently, I'm glad to herald we are looking for new upcoming talents.
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kasimax (243 D)
25 Dec 13 UTC
that uneasy feeling when the two other members of you alliance talk for half an hour
is there a way to recreate this feeling for online diplomacy? i was thinking of an extra area that shows who sent how many messages to the others. maybe it's more a thing for vdip, i don't know. just came to my mind, but someone's probably had that idea before.
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philcore (317 D (S))
25 Dec 13 UTC
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i made a batch of wassail tonight
To celebrate the true meaning of Christmas ... Rowdy drinking and insisting that your neighbors feed you and give you drink.
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MitchellCurtiss (164 D)
24 Dec 13 UTC
Many Normal Diplomacies
I recently won a game and got 90 D, so I created 9 new games all entitled "Normal Diplomacy" followed by a roman numeral (I'm up to XII I think). Fell free to join!
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josunice (3702 D (S))
25 Dec 13 UTC
No Press is Best - 125 points GB series join as many as you like...
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kc.diplomat (0 D X)
25 Dec 13 UTC
Just a few players needed!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=132225
Game name: Full speed ahead toward resurrection of USA!
Password: usa
Lets roll on!
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FolliesOfSpain (113 D)
24 Dec 13 UTC
We need a player for a 2 days public-press WTA game!
People interested please PM me or post in this thread.
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Chaqa (3134 D (B))
25 Dec 13 UTC
Need 1 more for game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=131493

password is fall
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NigeeBaby (100 D (G))
25 Dec 13 UTC
Best Xmas songs ever ......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2EOZHuBRdc

Slade
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