MAFIA 48 -The Gladiator- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[worcej]

I think we should NOT massclaim until Vapor and Chaqa resolved. That is not before day 4.

I think it ought to happen today, or not at all.

If scum can have a little moment to discuss it during the night, it loses a lot of its appeal.

There is a certain way this can play out, but it can certainly just turn into a meh-fest if scum play it properly

Why does it matter now versus D4? Scum are going to coordinate how exactly?

[worcej]

I would much rather we get the mass claims, if they happen, resolved while we have two semi-clears in Vapor and I around to help manage things. After all, if it turns out Vapor or I is lying, it should be apparent soon and that's a free scum lynch tor two (Vapor would be outed EoD3 and I'd be outed if I don't die eventually).

Vapor isn't a clear until he croaks randomly at EOD.

[worcej]

Are you people not aware of the setup?

Do you not know how the Bodyguard role works?

A massclaim is the stupidest thing we could do as town right now. At least if we make it role-specific. At the same time if we don't make it role specific, we are allowing probably one or two mafia members to enter the PR claimers pool.

Man I wanted to scum you, but you're right on with this logic.

[Nephthys]

As for the mass claim,

I don't think I support I full mass claim, maybe a PR/non-PR claim, although I think there may? be enough chaos scum can cause that it wouldn't really help us.

[worcej]

like, most of the fun would be in just showing bozo for once how its done properly

How would exposing most of the PRs be a good thing? The Reward Gladiator is the biggest threat to scum and I bet they would be willing to sacrifice Vaporwave (maybe the goon) to get them to pop open and then get stabbed.

[e.m.c^42]

Just collating some S/S pairings that have stood out

EMC/River
Vecna/Xorx
Damo/Xorx
Jamie/Xorx
Yuuki/Jamie
Tem/Vecna
Worcej/Tem
Ike/Worcej
Ike/Caram

Explanations anytime soon? :D
I somewhat get mine, rivera argument was not even remotely approaching reasonable, could be taken as potential bussing or something, but most of the rest I don't really see?

[worcej]

Like seriously, you know how the scum will coordinate right?

It's pretty obvious how they should do it that it doesn't even need to be said.

[worcej]

prepare yourselves for what's about to happen in the 2nd part of D2

Haven't seen anything yet...

[Nephthys]

Just collating some S/S pairings that have stood out

EMC/River
Vecna/Xorx
Damo/Xorx
Jamie/Xorx
Yuuki/Jamie
Tem/Vecna
Worcej/Tem
Ike/Worcej
Ike/Caram

How do I pair with Tem? Ike I get from D1, but Tem?

Looking back I don't actually know. That one was from D1 and if anything it should be the other way.

Gonna revisit all my D1 pairings to see how the rest of them stack up

[worcej]

Like I said before, I would highly encourage our Gladiator to challenge Tem so we can get two lynches in today (unless I misunderstand how the role works)

Scum slip by chance? I bet Jamie hammers this one as I read on.

He didn't, which was shocking.

[worcej]

Bodyguards a thing though.

At any rate, scum using their knife on you is really a shitty choice, but im glad they did.

Wait, where did vapor imply he got knifed?

WTF, is this becoming a habit amongst the scummy people?

YOU LITERALLY LINKED IT IN THE POST YOU QUOTED JUST BEFORE THIS ONE, MUPPET

PUPPET - IT WAS APPARENTLY A LINK TO A GIF THAT I CANNOT OPEN ON MY WORK PC BECAUSE THEY LOCK DOWN THAT CRAP BECAUSE ~~REASONS~~.

YET I CAN WATCH YOUTUBE ALL I WANT ON SAID PC!

[worcej]

maybe it was a wrong move to claim stabbed, esp as town

No, it was the right move. But you could just as easily be scum trying to force our gladiators out and then they get them.

It doesn't take much insight to see that the gladiators are high priority targets for scum. Getting them to out themselves now by trading you away is not as bad of a gamble if you're the goon (and thus irrelevant).

Pretty much watching you die randomly EOD will be how we confirm you.

[worcej]

Is there any reason I'm missing that we should not ask Vapor to tell us his role? It seems to me that Vecna's plan is better or worse depending on what role Vapor has. The plan works better if Vapor is VT.

I also don’t know why Vapor should withold his role, reallly.

He implied what it was.

[worcej]

Non-votes:
Carambola
e.m.c^42
Percy Williams
rdrivera2005
Temasek22
worcej

Why are there so many people who haven't voted halfway through the day, and most of them well within the lynch-pool?

I am not caught up yet.

[worcej]

Anyone keen for a ##vote damo

No way this guy is town

But he said he was... you don't find damo trustworthy?

[Jamiet99uk]

Like I said before, I would highly encourage our Gladiator to challenge Tem so we can get two lynches in today (unless I misunderstand how the role works)

Scum slip by chance? I bet Jamie hammers this one as I read on.

He didn't, which was shocking.

What was the issue with Chaqa's post?

Mechanically, he was correct. If there is a challenge in the first 24hrs of the day, then the day will contain two lynches.

[worcej]

It's pretty hard to read when it's this size, huh?

Not really, quoting is easy.

[worcej]

I am not reluctant, I am catching up.

Which page are you up to?

This exact post, so close.

[Chaqa]

I took a nice nap. How is everyone tonight?

[worcej]

My thoughts upon reading up:

The massclaim is stupid because we don't know if Vapor is telling the truth. Sorry, but the gladiators are critical to protect and I know it's my schtick to always doubt people, but I struggle to find why Vapor was stabbed. What did he reveal, if anywhere, that he is a valuable gladiator? I've seen nothing myself. I think town!Vecna would not overlook this personally, so I am a little skeptical at him pushing for these claims and just believing Vapor. I struggle to do this because he is being very distant and reluctant in his posts when sharing that information is critical to town.

Other than friends, I don't see a good connection to scum!Temasek. It feels hedgy just to vote him and suggest he needs to be a wagon.

The xorxes votes are... stupid too. All 3 seem reactionary and are not concrete. They will for sure move at some point.

Speaking of Temasek, these consistent low post counts from him and Cara are reminiscent of what food and flash did last game. There are a few smarter players I am willing to bet that would 'hide in plain sight', but these guys lurking as hard as they are doesn't make me feel comfortable.

Which leads me to this... ##vote Percy - the amount of lurking is quite bad. He isn't normally a high poster, but there is just something off with coasting this hard. He still hasn't posted more than TrPrado did on D1...