MAFIA 48 -The Gladiator- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[yuuki]

@Yuuki



What is scummy about any of those things?

1. Xorxes claimed a NON TOWN role and some people really wanted to avoid talking about it. I found that interesting and also weird.

2. I think you're scum, of course I'll push you. It's wrong to push your scumreads, Is it??

3. TrPrado also appeared scum. He was lying and being shit and his "reaction test" was a hot pile of steaming turds. Sure I was wrong, but let me remind you, AS TOWN I HAVE INCOMPLETE INFORMATION.

How does ANY of this make me scum?

1) A non-town role is not the same as an anti-town role. Claiming survivor could also be a way to make sure mafia don't try to NK him which could be a townie thing to do. Either way, it is something that just doesn't matter. Whether xorxes is survivor or not is not relevant at this stage of the game. You focusing so much on this is quite frankly VERY scummy.
2) It's wrong to create a new wagon that ends up flipping as town when your top scum read is one of the top two wagons. Again, VERY scummy.
3) Let me remind you, as SCUM you have COMPLETE information. TrPrado is probably an experienced player and you saw an opportunity to take out a (good?) experienced player over a noob (on the site at least) like me. You knew full well what you were doing. Again, VERY scummy.

Your response to (3) starts from an assumption that I am scum, and then works backwards to justify that assumption.

So you are just choosing to ignore 1 and 2 to focus on 3 that is clearly a consequence of 1 and 2

[yuuki]

Specially since Jamie was not a competing wagon, but rather a lesser wagon that never garnered much interest.

This statement is false.

At one point in the final couple of hours, I was the joint-leading wagon with 4 votes.

hosuke prado and my wagon wagons had 5 votes at various points. With 4 votes as your high you were never as relevant as any of the other 3.

Either way, your vote on Prado was not a consequence of this brief moment in time, which I must say was still quite far from the deadline and thus cannot qualify as pressure strong enough to justify self-defense votes

[Percy Williams]

we're in agreement in regards to Percy

he never fails to deliver snippets of charm when he's town. We might fear the worst, I also expected Percy to try some Roman shtick.

I'm most disappointed in my day 1 from this game, I unfortunately missed the part where you just post whatever, but My first post was this:

SENATOR PERICLES HAS NOVV ARRIVED!
IF PHASE VVAS BVT AN HOVR EARLIER THERE WOVLD BE NO PROBLEM, BVT DVE TO VNFORSEEN EVENTS I VVAS DELAYED. I THINK VVE CAN EXPECT GOLD FROM ME THIS GAME. I AM CVRRENTLY ON PAGE X.

(This is going to ruin my autocorrect)

Even when I do get scum, I don't plan on lurking more than I already do, that wouldn't be any fun .

[Percy Williams]

Thank you guys for the answers.

Following this thread is like a job, but less polite and with no paycheck.
Plus side, you get to vote over who is sacked next.

Yeah but if your team wins, you get glory, girls, and a $50 gift certificate valid for spending at Toys 'R' Us, Radio Shack, BlockBuster Video or Waldenbooks.

You also win an instruction on how to terminate your google plus account.

[Percy Williams]

After a careful scan of the thread, I am quite puzzled. It seems everyone is looking for who the scums are, but there's no agreement about which characteristics should be considered as indicative. So, it's mostly personal attacks, calls to intuition, and making use of previous knowledge of the players and their styles.
We are doomed, i guess? Any reason for having some faith?

What doth thine heart tell thee?

Sorry, i don't have a heart.
I mean, i do have the blood pumping organ, but i think you're talking about that devilish device which feeds on dreams and produces pain, suffering and loneliness.

I like to call mine a "feelings cavity"

[Percy Williams]

##SENATE NOTE
@Ike We are not going to say who has and who has not read or not read their Role PM or not their Role PM.

You should be thankful Ragium Iccus, you know we would asked if had read yours if the GM revealed.

Jokes on you, that was an indirect way for me to ask about myself

Do you know if you've read your PM or not?

[Percy Williams]

Lol who out there is using dark theme?!?

I'm not, but I do have really good eyesight. We have discovered a number of ways that we can hide text in plain sight this game.

[Vecna]

Oof, please kill Percy as soon as you can guys.

The same for Damo

[e.m.c^42]

I'm not exactly sure how to feel about Percy seeing himself being called out for "lack of charm", then proceeding to respond to just banter lol

is this some high level sarcastic irony

[Jamiet99uk]

Is this sarcasm?

[worcej]

If I had the inclination, this would probably be the perfect moment to re-analyze if Hosuku + temasek could be a thing for a scum duo.

Scumreading eachother for really bad reasons, then when the wagon might actually be lynched he removes his vote. THen Hosutu comes in and complains about that and says it makes him look bad?

So weird. It smells. Almost like they were told to start bussing eachother early.

Independantly of these actions I still think the sucking up to me is mildly town indicative, but that IS actually potentially coachable by people that know im a sucker for that sort of thing.

Holy shit, I am honored to have had a similar read about players before you.

I might actually be getting better at this rate!

[worcej]

Useless. I will be more engaged in a few hours. This looks a shambles.

D1 wasn't entirely useless. There are a few good nuggets to be mined up out of this one.

[foodcoats]

Oof, please kill Percy as soon as you can guys.

The same for Damo

I agree with this. Percy finally shows up... and starts commenting on the shitposts...

[Chaqa]

I feel like Day 1 was more useless than usual this game. Like, the primary discussions were all about random crap instead of anything tangible. Admittedly there wasn’t a lot to discuss, but we could have spent some time arguing the merits of any gladiator contests, xorxes claim, or big strategy stuff, and instead we got day 1 as it happened.

[Jamiet99uk]

1) A non-town role is not the same as an anti-town role. Claiming survivor could also be a way to make sure mafia don't try to NK him which could be a townie thing to do. Either way, it is something that just doesn't matter. Whether xorxes is survivor or not is not relevant at this stage of the game. You focusing so much on this is quite frankly VERY scummy.
2) It's wrong to create a new wagon that ends up flipping as town when your top scum read is one of the top two wagons. Again, VERY scummy.
3) Let me remind you, as SCUM you have COMPLETE information. TrPrado is probably an experienced player and you saw an opportunity to take out a (good?) experienced player over a noob (on the site at least) like me. You knew full well what you were doing. Again, VERY scummy.

Your response to (3) starts from an assumption that I am scum, and then works backwards to justify that assumption.

So you are just choosing to ignore 1 and 2 to focus on 3 that is clearly a consequence of 1 and 2

I might as well from this point ignore everything from you. You've made up your mind that I'm scum, like your buddy Vapor, and nothing I can say will apparently change your mind.

I'll save my comments for people who aren't blinkered and have the capacity for critical thinking.

[worcej]

Scum team update:

Jamie: explained it many times
xorxes: trying to play down Jamie's scumminess. Possible that his claim was agreed on the day scum chat to give Jamie the chance to divert conversation away from scum hunting into survivor BS.
temasek: shady as hell
damo/percy/any other lurker
carambola: not trying to scum hunt at all. Playing the clueless noob card.

This game is easy. I don't know why we townies lose so often.

You'll get to see why probably this game - people forget what others have done and stop analyzing them and then near the end, the scum just gives a shovel to a town player and watches the train wreck complete itself.

[Jamiet99uk]

I feel like Day 1 was more useless than usual this game. Like, the primary discussions were all about random crap instead of anything tangible. Admittedly there wasn’t a lot to discuss, but we could have spent some time arguing the merits of any gladiator contests, xorxes claim, or big strategy stuff, and instead we got day 1 as it happened.

Then why didn't you?

[Jamiet99uk]

Also @Chaqa:

I did actively talk about Xorxes' claim, and I got shouted at, told to shut up, and scumread for it.

What do you make of that?

[worcej]

Also, anyone want to possibly discuss why scum chose either rdr or vapor for the jail?

[worcej]

also...

@town roleblocker -In the event that a NK doesn't happen on a night, don't automatically rush to claim who you RB'ed. You need to stay hidden.

##Call the SENATORS:
Can the mafia hold their NK in this game?