Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

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Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3221 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:39 pm

worcej wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:35 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:57 pm
I can believe EspressoPatronum thought all of the mafia roles were in play.

The only reason the mafia would use the RB would be to try to RB the tracker. However, using the RB doubles the chance of the tracker tracking a scum if the they RB the wrong player. Did the mafia really believe Vapor is the tracker, and that he was going to track flash, and if so, that flash is the killer? I think it is more likely the RB claim is fake.

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ding ding ding!!! We have someone who finally listened to me (maybe)
Yes, I understand you were making this point as well.

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Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3222 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:40 pm

damo666 wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:07 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:03 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:00 pm


Yes I think I probably would
Well, I assumed you meant later than N2 by using the phrase "later in the game". Do you have any N2 information to report?
stop PR fishing
You made specific claims about your role, I am trying to determine if your claims are real.

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#3223 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:41 pm

Thanks for pointing me to the DP info, Bozo.

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#3224 Post by damo666 » Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:44 pm

worcej wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:36 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:12 pm
worcej wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:15 pm
If you think you know who the scum are, why are you not voting for them explicitly?
I am? I can only vote 1 at a time.
So you won’t look at someone because people you think are scum are a wagon on that person, therefor that person is cleared to you?
Yes, for the timebeing at any rate. Doesn't seem unreasonable to me. Certainly clearer than the perceived scum voting for said person. Do you not agree (with the principle, not the personnel involved).

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#3225 Post by damo666 » Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:46 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:40 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:07 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:03 pm


Well, I assumed you meant later than N2 by using the phrase "later in the game". Do you have any N2 information to report?
stop PR fishing
You made specific claims about your role, I am trying to determine if your claims are real.
They are. If you are town please stop doing scum's work for them. I expect they already have.

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#3226 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:25 pm

worcej wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:20 pm
An interesting first post Fox, needless to say I hope your game is as elevated now as it was at the end of last game. Now it won't be too little, too late.
Interesting response that's very different from M46 post-game where Worcej expressed sympathy and commiseration at my mistake in LyLo... His very early day 1 tone is a weird mix of cynical and enthusiastic.

There's a lot of D1 noise from Worcej. :neutral:
worcej wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:50 pm
wait? Why was Mike already subbed? Seems a little rushed...
[/quote]

Seems a little like you're implying-without-saying that Mike must have been replaced early because he was a scum or N1 PR... Trying to create suspicion of Jamiet? Or trying to alert scummates to someone they need to pay attention to?
worcej wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:05 pm
Mine are Vapor, Hosuke, darg, Chaqa, and food.
[/quote]

That's his list for Bozo, but I have barely seen him talk about/to Dargo or Chaqa... Why isn't Percy on that list? He was voting Percy the first half of D2.

That's... the discernable parts I was able to pick out. But really, Worcej is a mess who isn't actually scumhunting and is creating as much noise as possible. He's doing a very good job of obscuring any connection to other scummates by sheer force of bullshittery.

But yeah, I think I'm happy to push Worcej today.

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#3227 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:26 pm

worcej wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:20 pm
An interesting first post Fox, needless to say I hope your game is as elevated now as it was at the end of last game. Now it won't be too little, too late.
Interesting response that's very different from M46 post-game where Worcej expressed sympathy and commiseration at my mistake in LyLo... His very early day 1 tone is a weird mix of cynical and enthusiastic.

There's a lot of D1 noise from Worcej. :neutral:
worcej wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:50 pm
wait? Why was Mike already subbed? Seems a little rushed...
Seems a little like you're implying-without-saying that Mike must have been replaced early because he was a scum or N1 PR... Trying to create suspicion of Jamiet? Or trying to alert scummates to someone they need to pay attention to?
worcej wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:05 pm
Mine are Vapor, Hosuke, darg, Chaqa, and food.
That's his list for Bozo, but I have barely seen him talk about/to Dargo or Chaqa... Why isn't Percy on that list? He was voting Percy the first half of D2.

That's... the discernable parts I was able to pick out. But really, Worcej is a mess who isn't actually scumhunting and is creating as much noise as possible. He's doing a very good job of obscuring any connection to other scummates by sheer force of bullshittery.

But yeah, I think I'm happy to push Worcej today.

[Edited to fix quotes]

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#3228 Post by brainbomb » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:28 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:26 pm
worcej wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:20 pm
An interesting first post Fox, needless to say I hope your game is as elevated now as it was at the end of last game. Now it won't be too little, too late.
Interesting response that's very different from M46 post-game where Worcej expressed sympathy and commiseration at my mistake in LyLo... His very early day 1 tone is a weird mix of cynical and enthusiastic.

There's a lot of D1 noise from Worcej. :neutral:
worcej wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:50 pm
wait? Why was Mike already subbed? Seems a little rushed...
Seems a little like you're implying-without-saying that Mike must have been replaced early because he was a scum or N1 PR... Trying to create suspicion of Jamiet? Or trying to alert scummates to someone they need to pay attention to?
worcej wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:05 pm
Mine are Vapor, Hosuke, darg, Chaqa, and food.
That's his list for Bozo, but I have barely seen him talk about/to Dargo or Chaqa... Why isn't Percy on that list? He was voting Percy the first half of D2.

That's... the discernable parts I was able to pick out. But really, Worcej is a mess who isn't actually scumhunting and is creating as much noise as possible. He's doing a very good job of obscuring any connection to other scummates by sheer force of bullshittery.

But yeah, I think I'm happy to push Worcej today.

[Edited to fix quotes]
##Vote worcej

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#3229 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:29 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:45 pm
Hey Jamiet, what does it mean for your theory that Espresso actually proposed the smokescreen idea during N1?
Nicely observed, but it doesn't change my theory all that much, because if you look carefully, you'll notice he discussed a smokescreen, yes - BUT he talked in general terms about using it to protect various roles including Cop, Doctor, and Divine Presence.

It was only after D2 had begun that he specifically narrowed this down to a smokescreen involving the DP.

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#3230 Post by damo666 » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:34 pm

OK let's stir this up

##vote worcej

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#3231 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:35 pm

worcej wrote: wait? Why was Mike already subbed? Seems a little rushed...
Sorry, I missed this at the time.
According to what I got from the GM, Mike told them he wouldn't be able to play after all, just part way into the first day. So they immediately sought a sub.

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#3232 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:50 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:35 pm
worcej wrote: wait? Why was Mike already subbed? Seems a little rushed...
Sorry, I missed this at the time.
According to what I got from the GM, Mike told them he wouldn't be able to play after all, just part way into the first day. So they immediately sought a sub.
Do you think Worcej was trying to stir up speculation that Mike/you are Mafia (and that's why the replacement was "a little rushed")?

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#3233 Post by worcej » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:28 pm

damo666 wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:44 pm
worcej wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:36 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:12 pm


I am? I can only vote 1 at a time.
So you won’t look at someone because people you think are scum are a wagon on that person, therefor that person is cleared to you?
Yes, for the timebeing at any rate. Doesn't seem unreasonable to me. Certainly clearer than the perceived scum voting for said person. Do you not agree (with the principle, not the personnel involved).
I think the principle puts blinders to your own analysis and can bite you. I am a person that always questions intentions and apply them to the reality of the situation, regardless of what the person says. This is why I did not believe Fox or Hosuke until the evidence was compounding to remove all doubt.

TL;DR: people are always guilty until proven innocent for me in Mafia.

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#3234 Post by worcej » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:29 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:50 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:35 pm
worcej wrote: wait? Why was Mike already subbed? Seems a little rushed...
Sorry, I missed this at the time.
According to what I got from the GM, Mike told them he wouldn't be able to play after all, just part way into the first day. So they immediately sought a sub.
Do you think Worcej was trying to stir up speculation that Mike/you are Mafia (and that's why the replacement was "a little rushed")?
It just seemed early, especially mid D1. I would’ve phased him out EOD1 to at least give some sort of reasoning for the sub.

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#3235 Post by worcej » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:30 pm

damo666 wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:34 pm
OK let's stir this up

##vote worcej
Now you are making more sense to me.

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#3236 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:31 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:50 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:35 pm
worcej wrote: wait? Why was Mike already subbed? Seems a little rushed...
Sorry, I missed this at the time.
According to what I got from the GM, Mike told them he wouldn't be able to play after all, just part way into the first day. So they immediately sought a sub.
Do you think Worcej was trying to stir up speculation that Mike/you are Mafia (and that's why the replacement was "a little rushed")?
I dunno.

It does annoy me every time someone says "Ohh heyyu, duh Gee-Hemm sure wuz keen to git a replacement fur dat guy. He mus' be scumm, hur hur".

Some dullard comes out with this inane remark, or a variant of it, almost every game, and it's pointless and irritating.

Not necessarily AI, I guess.

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#3237 Post by worcej » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:33 pm

I welcome the wagon on me and will respond to any and all questions.

Know that I am town and you are making a mistake by pushing me now.

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#3238 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:35 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:31 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:50 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:35 pm


Sorry, I missed this at the time.
According to what I got from the GM, Mike told them he wouldn't be able to play after all, just part way into the first day. So they immediately sought a sub.
Do you think Worcej was trying to stir up speculation that Mike/you are Mafia (and that's why the replacement was "a little rushed")?
I dunno.

It does annoy me every time someone says "Ohh heyyu, duh Gee-Hemm sure wuz keen to git a replacement fur dat guy. He mus' be scumm, hur hur".

Some dullard comes out with this inane remark, or a variant of it, almost every game, and it's pointless and irritating.

Not necessarily AI, I guess.
I agree with you on the inanity of that remark. Which is why I'm curious about how Worcej approached it. Because it was very much along those lines, and yet he didn't actually go for it. I think he set it up for someone else to pick up that thread and run with it, in the hopes of sending town on a dumb goose chase.

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#3239 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:36 pm

worcej wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:33 pm
I welcome the wagon on me and will respond to any and all questions.

Know that I am town and you are making a mistake by pushing me now.
Since you believe in guilt until proven innocent, how do you plan to prove your innocence?

Also, why have you generated so much noise this game with so little effort to solve?

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#3240 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:37 pm

worcej wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:33 pm
I welcome the wagon on me and will respond to any and all questions.

Know that I am town and you are making a mistake by pushing me now.
If you are town why do you welcome being a wagon?

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