Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[Durga]

Balki is hella townie and that's bc he has an entire scum team to find. I'm sure he won't be dead tonight. He'd have to be psycho to play the day like he did if he was scum

Anyway it's not important we'll find out tomorrow

[Durga]

By scum I mean mafia. Obv he's BA

[peterlund]

Did you miss the part where Balki claimed a scan on Neph and Neph confirmed it?

Balki said that he guessed that Neph was Judge after ISOing Darg, knowing Darg was Bailiff, didn't he?

[rdrivera2005]

Great catching scum Xorx team!

I was just not going to follow Balki around ANYWHERE.

More disturbing was to see how Rdrivera (our "reporter" claimant) was following Balki around at EoD.

I think I need to do some rethinking...

This post is scummy but it's also peterlund so I don't know

No it is not scummy at all.

Lets consider the statistics.

These were the PRs in action Night 2
2. Hooker
3. Blind Assassin
4. Assassin
5. Lawyer
6. Janitor
7. Framer
8. Cop - Died that Night 2
9. Reporter

What do we know? First thing D3 Rdriv claims reporter saying that Balki was "out".

We have:
1 BA
5 Scum PRs
1 Cop that died
1 Reporter

If we believe Rdriv's claim he had one chance in 6 to pick the BA, since all scum PRs had a reasons to be "out".

What happened? Balki claimed BA. (of course he would, no surprise there)

And now you and Rdriv believe Balki?; because there has been no BA CC? Really??

Unless the real BA would be in a risk of being lynched he would never CC Balki's claim. Instead he/she would just kill Balki next night and stay hidden.

Only, in case Balki survives this night I will be forced to start believing Balki's claim, but not a second before that. The chance of scanning the BA was only 1 in 6.

The odd thing is that Rdriv despite these poor odds was "following Balki around".

Squigs answered you and I would add any decent scum would have counter claimed me instead of claiming BA.

Also, I wasn't "following" anyone, I was trying to get some movement at EOD to get info. I guess scum just thought Xorxes can't be saved without risking exposing themselves.
I will try to put some reads tomorrow as I will be the NK (well, they can go for the Judge, but I don't think so) as they need to RB Balki and they won't risk another report from me.

[Squigs44]

Did you miss the part where Balki claimed a scan on Neph and Neph confirmed it?

Balki said that he guessed that Neph was Judge after ISOing Darg, knowing Darg was Bailiff, didn't he?

N1 he said he scanned Neph and got back PR. Combined with the fact that Balki found those crumbs, and Neph didn't get NKd by the mafia N2, I'm pretty sure Balki actually is BA.

[ND]

I'm very skeptical that Balki is anything other than BA at this point. Raises some questions on what we do with him, but I think that can wait until we get another few mafia down.

[peterlund]

Did you miss the part where Balki claimed a scan on Neph and Neph confirmed it?

Balki said that he guessed that Neph was Judge after ISOing Darg, knowing Darg was Bailiff, didn't he?

N1 he said he scanned Neph and got back PR. Combined with the fact that Balki found those crumbs, and Neph didn't get NKd by the mafia N2, I'm pretty sure Balki actually is BA.

Let's await the results of this night! We will then have more concrete evidence to go by. At the moment we are just speculating maybe a bit too much.

[Durga]

It might take me a bit to catch up on EoD, no idea how it ended up playing out

[FlaviusAetius]

Balki said that he guessed that Neph was Judge after ISOing Darg, knowing Darg was Bailiff, didn't he?

N1 he said he scanned Neph and got back PR. Combined with the fact that Balki found those crumbs, and Neph didn't get NKd by the mafia N2, I'm pretty sure Balki actually is BA.

Let's await the results of this night! We will then have more concrete evidence to go by. At the moment we are just speculating maybe a bit too much.

Agreed, now that the secretary is dead there is literally zero reason for us to talk at night or then scum will be able to coordinate

[teacon7]

Here's where my head is at. I'll look it over for some conclusions in a bit. Yes I made myself green because I know my own alignment. Make your own if you don't like it.

Here's a version for if you don't want to factor in the claims yet:
d1
bozotheclown (11) Percy Williams et damo666 Squigs44 ChippeRock connorcompton Carl Tuckerson FlaviusAetius rdrivera2005 Nephthys Tom Bombadil
FlaviusAetius (7) Balki Bartokomous dargorygel Foxcastle MoscowFleet TrPrado Durga bozotheclown
CruaaderReynauld (2) ND teacon7
ChippeRock (1) EspressoPatronum
Percy Williams (1) xorxes
No‑Lynch (1) CruaaderReynauld

Late motion: was largely between bozo and flav
Movers were: Tom Bombadil, Durga*4, Squigs44*3, Carl Tuckerson*2, prado, connorcompton*3, Nephthys*2, FlaviusAetius, ChippeRock, rdrivera2005*2,

d2
EspressoPatronum (10) TrPrado damo666 Foxcastle et Nephthys [color=#rreedd][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]xorxes[/font][/color] Percy Williams Balki Bartokomous teacon7 ChippeRock
et (9) rdrivera2005 connorcompton EspressoPatronum Squigs44 ND Durga Tom Bombadil peterlund FlaviusAetius

imo late motion doesn't really apply here as options were limited. If it was TvT there's nothing to learn from motion. If it was MvT scum would've settled on the T and couldn't really start anything.

d3
xorxes (10) Durga Percy Williams Nephthys teacon7 ND et rdrivera2005 Balki Bartokomous Squigs44 FlaviusAetius
teacon7 (4) peterlund damo666 connorcompton Foxcastle
Foxcastle (1) ChippeRock
Percy Williams (1) xorxes

Late motion: attempts to lynch non-xorx candidates: teacon7, foxcastle, damo666
Notable lots of EoD motion from these: Balki Bartokomous, rdrivera2005, Squiggs44, Foxcastle. Maayyybe FlaviusAetius and et count as late motion.


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Here's a version for if you DO factor in the claims:
d1
bozotheclown (11) Percy Williams et damo666 Squigs44 ChippeRock connorcompton Carl Tuckerson FlaviusAetius rdrivera2005 Nephthys Tom Bombadil
FlaviusAetius (7) Balki Bartokomous dargorygel Foxcastle MoscowFleet TrPrado Durga bozotheclown
CruaaderReynauld (2) ND teacon7
ChippeRock (1) EspressoPatronum
Percy Williams (1) xorxes
No‑Lynch (1) CruaaderReynauld

Late motion: was largely between bozo and flav
Movers were: Tom Bombadil, Durga*4, Squigs44*3, Carl Tuckerson*2, prado, connorcompton*3, Nephthys*2, FlaviusAetius, ChippeRock, rdrivera2005*2,

d2
EspressoPatronum (10) TrPrado damo666 Foxcastle et Nephthys xorxes Percy Williams Balki Bartokomous teacon7 ChippeRock
et (9) rdrivera2005 connorcompton EspressoPatronum Squigs44 ND Durga Tom Bombadil peterlund FlaviusAetius

imo late motion doesn't really apply here as options were limited. If it was TvT there's nothing to learn from motion. If it was MvT scum would've settled on the T and couldn't really start anything.

d3
xorxes (10) Durga Percy Williams Nephthys teacon7 ND et rdrivera2005 Balki Bartokomous Squigs44 FlaviusAetius
teacon7 (4) peterlund damo666 connorcompton Foxcastle
Foxcastle (1) ChippeRock
Percy Williams (1) xorxes

Late motion: attempts to lynch non-xorx candidates: teacon7, foxcastle, damo666
Notable lots of EoD motion from these: Balki Bartokomous, rdrivera2005, Squiggs44, Foxcastle. Maayyybe FlaviusAetius and et count as late motion.

[Durga]

If you're trying to be useful for other people (which you should be) you wouldn't have made yourself green. Js.

[ND]

Bizarre how ET just so happens to blend in with dominant town thought and always ends up on those major wagons, huh? Really makes me think.

[Durga]

Thoughts on 4 or at the very least 3 scum being on teacon?

[ND]

If you mental midget idiots can't hear the sarcasm then your beyond moronic. That's as PC as I can be.

[ChippeRock]

Where's Chippe?

@Chippe, make your voice heard.

Sorry, I wasn't able to get online for the EoD. Seems you guys did well without me, and my vote wouldn't of mattered much anyways. We've finally stopped any Mafia day coordination!

[ChippeRock]

They must have RBd Carl N1

I personally think that they held onto the RB, and had xorxes claim RB when no one would CC him.

[ChippeRock]

Thoughts on 4 or at the very least 3 scum being on teacon?

Personally, I think 1 of the 4 on the damo wagon at its peak was probably scum (not including Balki) - it's a safe vote because they're just sheeping xorxes, and it quickly dissipated the moment the two leaders who they could sheep jumped off the wagon.

[ChippeRock]

Where's Chippe?

@Chippe, make your voice heard.

Sorry, I wasn't able to get online for the EoD. Seems you guys did well without me, and my vote wouldn't of mattered much anyways. We've finally stopped any Mafia day coordination!

Well, sort of - but we're definitely heading in the right direction!

[rdrivera2005]

N1 he said he scanned Neph and got back PR. Combined with the fact that Balki found those crumbs, and Neph didn't get NKd by the mafia N2, I'm pretty sure Balki actually is BA.

Let's await the results of this night! We will then have more concrete evidence to go by. At the moment we are just speculating maybe a bit too much.

Agreed, now that the secretary is dead there is literally zero reason for us to talk at night or then scum will be able to coordinate

Considering I will be probably dead tomorrow I think we should talk

[rdrivera2005]

Thoughts on 4 or at the very least 3 scum being on teacon?

Personally, I think 1 of the 4 on the damo wagon at its peak was probably scum (not including Balki) - it's a safe vote because they're just sheeping xorxes, and it quickly dissipated the moment the two leaders who they could sheep jumped off the wagon.

Considering I am town and Squigs is pretty likely town (can't see scum faking RB twice in a row), it can be only Teacon.